Hi:
Re-reading Doug Bowman's post you can really feel his frustration.
Reading between the lines I hear:
* A culture that was born in Engineering (and still very much i that
space - which is what makes Google great)
* A culture that is looking at ways to embrace Design and User
Research (and no
Hi Dave,
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:38 AM, David Malouf wrote:
> Jarod, I don't like it. I find it to be ..
> 1) reminiscent of MS
> 2) too brash and distracting
>
Yes, I found few likes the current Google icon near around. But many people
like the one one, that would be the interesting phenomeno
Jarod, I don't like it. I find it to be ..
1) reminiscent of MS
2) too brash and distracting
More importantly it has in no way shape or form improved my
relationship with Google (or diminished it).
I think people have missed my point.
I think design is not for or against data, but design should a
Yes, over-reliance on data-driven incremental design (DDID) is ill-
advised.
- Customers who use more than one of a company's products tend to be
the most valuable customers in the long run. DDID usually optimizes
one product at a time. The resulting inconsistencies may make each
product a
One side question, what do you think about google's new icon compare to old
one?
Cheers,
-- Jarod
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk <
aherasimc...@involutionstudios.com> wrote:
> Posted without comment, even though I very much feel Google just lost an
> amazing talent for no go
The first question is, "What do you want to do after you graduate?". If
you have a good idea as to the answer, compare what people from these
programs end up doing.
I have a lot of respect for the students in the IxD program at CMU and
have learned a *lot* taking classes with them. However,
> I actually didn't want to get involve in this discussion, because it
> is almost like Apple vs PC, but if I don't ask or discuss clarity will
> never be reached, and some people actually think that WordPress is
> just a blog and can't be a CMS.
I hope this thread doesn't derail into a discussion
George %u2014 yes, the HCII program is intense, running for 12 months
in a row. I had also been out of school for many years, but the HCII
is very project-based, and having a professional background helps.
This is a professional, not an academic program, so you don't need
to walk in with a lot of f
You can put your drupal T-shirt on and jump off a cliff and I won't try and
stop you.
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Just so I understand, who is the %u2018user%u2019 when you say
WordPress provides a better user experience? If you%u2019re talking
about the end-user who doesn%u2019t know (or care) what CMS was used
to build the site, then I%u2019d like to learn more about how exactly
WordPress provides a better u
On Mar 21, 2009, at 12:15 PM, William Brall wrote:
Collecting Data is a big part of IxD, and like any field with a
science background, that data need not be collected a second time for
the same problem.
Science background?
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Andrei Herasimchuk
Chief Design Officer, Involution Studios
innov
Januus, I was actually looking at the HCII program as well. It looks
great, but the time period of one year for the degree seemed pretty
intense, especially after not being in school for a couple of years.
What did you think of this, and how did you feel the IxD program
interacted with HCII. I was
I find some issue with this argument. Re-applying solutions to new
problems is not ideal. It goes to one of my pet peeves... applying
solutions from books, that may or may not have a similar context or
problem. I see MBA's and business owners reading books like 'Good to
Great' and then enth
>
> A wise professor once told me that having research is much better than not,
> but in the end… once you have absorbed and evaluated all of the data, you
> still have to make a decision.
Of course, I don't think anyone would argue that you place the
decision-making with the machines? We've all
>
>
> The reason the 41 blue test is bad, is any one of us would have told
> google the right choice for FREE!
That's a false argument, because you're saying that designers should then be
trusted to know what they know and know what they don't know.
Peter
Drupal being more complex and technical is a fallacy.
I've used drupal, joomla, mambo, crown peak, trinidad, proprietary systems a
slew of others and when I finally got around to checking out wordpress I was
pleasantly surprised.
Even if wordpress doesn't do exactly what you want it to do out of t
Data driven business decisions (and the offshoot being discussed here
- design decisions) is a significant movement… much of it being
fostered from engineers and statisticians. The notion that we, the
humans, do not need to know the why, but only what he data tells us
to do is at the core o
I think ALL of you are really arguing the same side.
Collecting Data is a big part of IxD, and like any field with a
science background, that data need not be collected a second time for
the same problem.
Do biologists retest basic chemistry in order to make a biological
experiment? Certainly not
Hi Peter,
My answer about "listening to data" is "it depends".
If the data is, your revenue has fallen X% and the data can SHOW that
a design decision led to that fall (as opposed to other contexts such
as economy, politics, quality of goods being sold, etc.) then of
course I'll listen to it.
If
Since what I was saying was, in fact, intended to be silly. I had
hoped that was obvious... I'll only defend "The Science of Art"
Think of that phrase to mean the science behind how art does what art
does. Art has always been something magical. I mean magical in the old
sense. There are practices
We agree then. My point is not that we don't need design. My point is that
design should be humble and listen to data.
Peter
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:18 PM, AJKock wrote:
> @ Peter Can data-driven design predict future design? No, it can only
> measure today. Design is more than just testing fo
Web search in particular is one of the most utilitarian instances of
software these days. Having spent 2.5 years doing search quality / UX
assessment at MSFT, I'm a firm believer that every change in search
should be tested vigorously and that a design team that isn't
enthusiastic about testing is
Let's back up a step here...why does stuff have to be measurable? Is
it no longer possible to assess without numbers? On the whole (and
yes, I acknowledge that there are significant exceptions) the SMART
methodology did design no service. There are things we know or notice
that are simply i
@ Peter Can data-driven design predict future design? No, it can only
measure today. Design is more than just testing for today; it also
envisions tomorrow.
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@ Peter Wordpress 2.7 Roles:
http://agapetry.net/news/introducing-role-scoper/
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/adminimize/
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/user-access-manager/
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/connections/
WordPress 2.6
http://www.im-web-gefunden.de/wordpress-plugins/rol
A nice demo of various multitouch interaction concepts
Video: http://vimeo.com/3601352
/pauric
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Jeff G. and Jerome R. have a good point here about a continuous save,
snapshot save, or checkpoints.
Could we remove the save button completely if these checkpoints were
constantly saved ala Gmail or other apps that save drafts on a
regular basis. The user would then only be required to set a peri
James, I agree with your points on WordPress. WordPress, as you say,
is much easier on many fronts. But, it is not nearly as powerful as
Drupal. I think that's a notion most will agree with.
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I think that's wrong. Why can't I continue to measure and change stuff?
In any case, data driven design doesn't mean there's no place for the
designer. Who else will come up with stuff that we can then measure?
Peter
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:12 AM, AJKock wrote:
> The problem with pure data-d
So your point is that Wordpress has a better user experience, so we should
use it, even though the other products have more features?
Sounds fair enough, if WP actually does what we want it to do.
Peter
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:59 AM, AJKock wrote:
> This is critique in general about people w
If the 2 versus 4 pixels thing is on a crucial page like the Google search
results or list of adsense ads, surely it's a MUST to test it and let the
data speak? No? or would you redesign the ads, see revenue go down and not
change your mind?
Peter
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Dan Saffer wrote
I'm doing screencasts of wireframes these days.
http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/2009/03/21/4499/screencasts-of-clickable-wireframes
I'll post an example soon.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Auke van Scheltinga wrote:
> Ah my extra 2 gigs memory module was broken. It's working like
As Dave M said earier - "if you want to research and derive inspiration from
> research, or research and live by the data, that is a choice, but I would
> argue that one is design and the other is not."
>
So if the data tells you something and you ignore it, is that "design"?
Peter
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> Ha
Does Wordpress have groups and flexible roles? I'm not sure, just asking :)
Peter
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM, AJ Kock wrote:
> Please, I would seriously be enlightened if you could tell me what those
> features are that you can find in Drupal but not WordPress.
>
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Thanks Matthew.. That was pretty much what I was thinking about doing
too. Good to know someone who has done something similar at some
point.
Thanks,
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William, I think there might be a good reason why interaction design
has not been described as the science of art before.
Where design and art often share the same dimension and often overlap
(Dunn & Raby are a good example), they most certainly are not same
thing. And the science of interaction
Some other ideas you can try are:
1. metaphor brainstorming
2. brainwriting
3. braindrawing
4. future workshops
5. Persona/perspective based brainstorming (similar in concept to six
thinking hats technique)
6. Unfocus groups
7. the crawford slip method
8. Freelisting
9. The card exchange t
Please, I would seriously be enlightened if you could tell me what those
features are that you can find in Drupal but not WordPress.
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The problem with pure data-driven design (testing for 4 vs 2 pixels)
is that they might be missing the point that the result is only valid
for that moment. Humans are not happy with things staying the same (it
might be part of the our survival mechanism to keep changing), because
one year we might
This is critique in general about people who prefers to choose the
complex path, in fearing of being devalued.
I actually didn't want to get involve in this discussion, because it
is almost like Apple vs PC, but if I don't ask or discuss clarity will
never be reached, and some people actually thin
I think De Bono's 'Six Thinking Hats' technique works great, whether in a
group or alone. The six different colored 'hats' represent a different ways
of thinking.
The six thinking hats cover positive, negative, neutral, creative emotional
and organizationally inclined ways of thinking.
It's like s
Data-driven design, though, is not entirely a bad thing, is it?
The whole web 2 approach of getting a basic webapp out there in beta, then
optimising and extending it based on user behaviour / feedback - that's data
driven post launch. Even running tests on paper prototypes, is, in some
respects,
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