Chromecast Audio announced today seems exciting, especially if they can
pull off multiroom audio in the future.
My original squeezebox devices are dying slowly, and an attempt to
replace one with an Android TV box with OrangeSqueeze did not go to
well. No elegant Rasberry Pi solutions out there t
sksahai wrote:
> Chromecast Audio announced today seems exciting, especially if they can
> pull off multiroom audio in the future.
> My original squeezebox devices are dying slowly, and an attempt to
> replace one with an Android TV box with OrangeSqueeze did not go to
> well. No elegant Rasberr
sksahai wrote:
> No elegant Rasberry Pi solutions out there that are aesthetically
> pleasing and cheap.
>
Not true IMO. You can get very nice brushed steel cases for the Raspi.
Besides, the Chromecasts are not really aesthetically pleasing. There's
supposed to be hidden away. You can achieve th
slally wrote:
> I'm intrigued as well. I'm going to buy one and plug it into my aux
> input...
Just ordered one for testing. Since the Google Play Music plugin
unfortunately doesn't work anymore and no-one is developing it further,
maybe I'll use this as a workaround.
New setup:
- ASRoc
I also ordered one. Like the fact that it comes with analogue and spdif
output. Main disadvantage over LMS/Squeezelite: no central control app.
You use an app for radio, one for Streaming music (Play Music, Spotify,
Qobuz apparently coming soon) etc.
Also, no idea what kind of DAC they use, and
usc95 wrote:
> I looked at the Rocki but the poor reviews really put me off. Also, the
> lack of services and the fact that multi room streaming was still in
> beta months after launch led me to not trust the startup that much.
> Hopefully with Google's resources they can nail multi-room sync (
Good to know about the Rocki. Honestly, I am not interested in the
Chromecast as a replacement for the squeezebox hardware but rather as a
way to maintain access to the music services. We are blessed to have
such a talented community developing a number of alternatives for DIY
and easy to use re
usc95 wrote:
> Good to know about the Rocki. Honestly, I am not interested in the
> Chromecast as a replacement for the squeezebox hardware but rather as a
> way to maintain access to the music services. We are blessed to have
> such a talented community developing a number of alternatives for
I am going to get one as well. If someone could develop a plugin that
would turn these Chromecasts into Squeezebox playback devices (like
Ipeng playback does with airplay devices) then we would be good to
continue to use LMS for playback of our local music and any other
functioning music services
usc95 wrote:
> I am going to get one as well. If someone could develop a plugin that
> would turn these Chromecasts into Squeezebox playback devices (like
> Ipeng playback does with airplay devices) then we would be good to
> continue to use LMS for playback of our local music and any other
> fu
I looked at the Rocki but the poor reviews really put me off. Also, the
lack of services and the fact that multi room streaming was still in
beta months after launch led me to not trust the startup that much.
Hopefully with Google's resources they can nail multi-room sync (which
we know is not e
usc95 wrote:
> I am going to get one as well. If someone could develop a plugin that
> would turn these Chromecasts into Squeezebox playback devices (like
> Ipeng playback does with airplay devices) then we would be good to
> continue to use LMS for playback of our local music and any other
> fu
CommanderROR wrote:
> Like the fact that it comes with analogue and spdif output.
Up until today, I didn't know that there is something called TOSLINK
miniplug and that one can have RCA and that in one port.
New setup:
- ASRock Ion 330, Lubuntu 14.04, LMS 7.9, FLAC
- *Duet* > AKG Hearo 8
wortgefecht wrote:
> Up until today, I didn't know that there is something called TOSLINK
> miniplug and that one can have RCA and that in one port.
The combo analog/digital jack has been around for several years. Had a
Turtle Beach USB DAC with one and recently bought an NAD D3020 that has
one
The best thing about chromecast audio is to cast audio from android
phone / tablet. I didn't achieve to listen youtube video on my
squeezebox.
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I had one of those 3.5mm optical thingies on a Terratec USB soundcard. I
used that with my Pi for a while... 😉
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If we use that, we can use it to cast from phone or from LMS with upnp
right ?
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Apesbrain wrote:
> The combo analog/digital jack has been around for several years. Had a
> Turtle Beach USB DAC with one and recently bought an NAD D3020 that has
> one. Here's a picture of a TOSLINK-to-mini adapter:
> [image:
> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Z%2BxiGguWL._SY355_.jpg]
Personally, I'm wondering if the chromecast audio device will end up
being root-able and if someone will successfully compile squeezelite for
it. That might make a nice cheap SB replacement.
See:
http://cord-cutters.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-your-chromecast-0157253/
-
Actually, the Squeezebox does not need to be replaced at all, but the
lacklustre support for streaming services is a big problem. Ickstream
MIGHT be able to remedy this, but they seem to be having a hard time
making significant progress, probably because their team is too small,
and they are not m
Qobuz has added Google Cast/Chromecast support to their Android app.
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I ordered one last week fully expecting to wait a long time only to get
an email telling me it is shipping today, I think it will go a long way
to simplifying audio - I have 6 SBs linked to a Pi & the complexity in
keeping it all going, sync-ing, plug-ins has been tedious - especially
when the BBC
Now we know what's inside the Chromecast Audio
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Chromecast+2015+Teardown/50189
Looks decent enough to my untrained eye...
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CommanderROR wrote:
> Now we know what's inside the Chromecast Audio
> https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Chromecast+2015+Teardown/50189
>
> Looks decent enough to my untrained eye...
Is this a decent DAC ?
AKM AK4430 192kHz 24-Bit Stereo DAC
George
Transporter->Pathos Logos->Triangle Celius
T
matka wrote:
> Is this a decent DAC ?
>
> AKM AK4430 192kHz 24-Bit Stereo DAC
Yes.
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
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I got mine today. It sounds pretty to good to my old ears. I like
being able to use the Spotify app directly to control playback as I
really enjoy their new(ish) discovery section that was not accessible on
Triode's plugin. It is comforting for me to know that when
mysqueezebox.com goes away I
CommanderROR wrote:
> Anyone got theirs yet?
I picked a Chromecast Audio up at Best Buy today. Within minutes I had
it streaming Spotify. With a bit of searching I found the Localcast app
on the Android store and installed it. I then enabled the DLNA server
capability of LMS and a few minutes la
CommanderROR wrote:
> Anyone got theirs yet?
I picked a Chromecast Audio up at Best Buy today. Within minutes I had
it streaming Spotify. With a bit of searching I found the Localcast app
on the Android store and installed it. I then enabled the DLNA server
capability of LMS and a few minutes la
That's actually a perfect plan!!!
I just set up Squeeze2Upnp, and it works perfectly with my AMP, meaning
I son't need the Pi in the lounge anymore...if it works with the
Chromecast Audio as well, then that means I can keep LMS, but still use
the Chromecast devices to stream from LMS (webradio an
Chromecast Audio has a nice price, presumably because Google is setting
the price based on a mixed calculation (you don't just generate revenue
by purchasing the hardware, but also by using more Google services).
IMO, the way to exploit the cheap hardware is by hacking it. Google
Cast's strength
poing wrote:
> Does the Chromecast Audio, when used in conjunction with Squeeze2Upnp,
> support (i) tight synchronization, (ii) ReplayGain, (iii) gapless
> playback, etc.?
And is it bit-perfect so it will work with DTS and AC-3?
poing wrote:
> Although, you know what would be really cool? Squeezelite running on a
> rooted Chromecast Audio!
Unlikely since users have not been able to root existing Chromecasts
with recent firmware. It seems only Chromecast with old not-upadted
firmeare have been rooted.
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@bpa
I really hope it's possible to do that. Google just confirmed that you
can't use the Chromecast Audio as DLNA receiver directly.
I'm no dev, so I have no clue how you'd go about streaming to Chromecast
from anything but Android/Chrome/iOS
If it is possible though, it would make installing
CommanderROR wrote:
> @bpa
> I really hope it's possible to do that. Google just confirmed that you
> can't use the Chromecast Audio as DLNA receiver directly.
> I'm no dev, so I have no clue how you'd go about streaming to Chromecast
> from anything but Android/Chrome/iOS
>
> If it is possibl
The Rocki player has analog output BUT works out of the box with
upnpbridge costs about the same as the CA
Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
Logitech Radio
Logitech UE Radio
Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite
Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squee
I believe the most realistic route would not be to modify the
Chromecast, but to teach LMS (or rather a LMS Plugin) the Cast Protocol.
Pretty much like BubbleUpnp that can send data to pretty much
everything, including Chromecast devices. Problem is, that's on Android,
no idea how "open" the Cast
CommanderROR wrote:
> I believe the most realistic route would not be to modify the
> Chromecast, but to teach LMS (or rather a LMS Plugin) the Cast Protocol.
> Pretty much like BubbleUpnp that can send data to pretty much
> everything, including Chromecast devices. Problem is, that's on Android,
@bpa
You're probably right, I saw a project on Github that is apparently
working on Protocol V2, but not sure how stable or useful that is. I
thought for a moment, that BubbleUpnp Server might help, but I'm not
entirely sure how it works, and whether it would serve this purpose at
all.
Well anyw
I'm new to this "casting" stuff as of yesterday but I'm learning fast.
As I reported earlier, I have experimented running cast capable apps,
Spotify and LocalCast, with good success. But then I noticed that my
Android phone has an overall casting control. I turned it on and the
cast icon appears
I have tested my Chromecast Audio and it works really well - it seems
most people here are aiming to use this within their SB ecosystem, I'd
like to think that the CA can replace the whole thing making it all a
lot easier to use. Once the devices can be sync'd then I see no reason
to try & shoehor
@cottingham
I think there are several reasons to use LMS with Chromecast, instead of
just Chromecast alone. First one is all about ease-of-use. LMS lets us
control everything from within a single app. This is very
straightforward and comfortable. If I want to listen to a track on
Qobuz, then I ju
If Chromecast Audio will mirror the iPhone, would it be possible to
stream SiriusXM? This stream would be via the SiriusXM app on the
iPhone.
Ikabob
Squeezebox Touch w/LMS V7.7.3; Benchmark DAC1 USB;Marantz Pre-amp; SAE
Amplifier;ESS Heil Speakers(main listening speakers plus various
addition
Ikabob wrote:
> If Chromecast Audio will mirror the iPhone, would it be possible to
> stream SiriusXM? This stream would be via the SiriusXM app on the
> iPhone. On my system (below) , where would the Chromecast Audio be
> connected to stream to the main system? Thank you.
AFAIK, the SiriusXM ap
bpa wrote:
> AFAICT Chromecast doe not run Linux they run a version of ChromeOS so
> there is a no SDK. This make would make it difficult to port
> Squeezelite. The other choice would require somebody to port Linux to
> Chromecast hardware - another non trivial task when there is no
> documenta
Ikabob wrote:
> On my system (below) , where would the Chromecast Audio be connected to
> stream to the main system? Thank you.
As I see it - there are two main scenarios where Chromecast Audio can be
used with LMS. How it is set up will probably depend on whether the
user consider LMS to be
Ikabob wrote:
> If Chromecast Audio will mirror the iPhone, would it be possible to
> stream SiriusXM? This stream would be via the SiriusXM app on the
> iPhone. On my system (below) , where would the Chromecast Audio be
> connected to stream to the main system? Thank you.
The Google Chromecast
I'm not sure how much I will be relying on the Chromecast in my music
listening. I was pretty excited to get mine a few days ago and after
playing with it the last few days I much prefer the centralization and
organization of the squeezebox system. I switch between my radio
favorites, slacker fa
An update as of Saturday morning.
I did activate squeeze2upnp and indeed, as CommanderROR's research
predicted, the Chromecast is not found as a DLNA device. So, at least
for now, the dream of an inexpensive "real" Squeezebox is not
happening.
Casting from separate Android apps is very unsatisfy
markbrauer wrote:
> An update as of Saturday morning.
>
> I did activate squeeze2upnp and indeed, as CommanderROR's research
> predicted, the Chromecast is not found as a DLNA device. So, at least
> for now, the dream of an inexpensive "real" Squeezebox is not
> happening.
>
> Casting from sepa
castalla wrote:
> or just get a Rocki which works with upnpbridge ?
What attracted me to the Chromecast Audio is the digital output and
ability to handle hi-res files - just like my Touch. And it does match
the outstanding performance of the Touch through my DAC/amp. I tried the
similar Bee
markbrauer wrote:
> What attracted me to the Chromecast Audio is the digital output and
> ability to handle hi-res files - just like my Touch. And it does match
> the outstanding performance of the Touch through my DAC/amp. I tried the
> similar Beep device (thisisbeep.com - now defunct) in the p
castalla wrote:
> My ears are shot, so I can't really detect much difference! Pity the
> Rocki 2 hasn't appeared.
>
> The best device I've tried is a Sonos - very versatile as a
> squeezeplayer or in its native guise.
Since you have tried many devices - there are a number of rocki like
produc
Worst case: we have to port LMS to ChromeOS, then we can cast to
Chromecast... ;)
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CommanderROR wrote:
> Worst case: we have to port LMS to ChromeOS, then we can cast to
> Chromecast... ;)
I have a Chromebook so I'm all for that! Sadly the "we" in porting
doesn't include me.
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CommanderROR wrote:
> Or me... 😉
Yup, I have a unused Chromebox collecting dust here. Would make a nice
server for LMS :)
New setup:
- ASRock Ion 330, Lubuntu 14.04, LMS 7.9, FLAC
- *Duet* > AKG Hearo 888 Titan (home office), *Boom + Canton ASF 75
SC* (master bedroom), *Boom* (master ba
Any chance this might help?
https://github.com/xat/castnow
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Or this?
https://www.npmjs.com/package/chromecast-osx-audio
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I received mine just now. Power consumption is pretty low, between 1w
and 1.5w.
Controlling it is a bit different than on LMS of course, but I already
knew that.
There is a setting called "High Dynamic Range" which I guess means "turn
off normalisation...it's a bit worrying that Range Compression
One HUGE plus for Chromecast Audio: Google Play Music support. I really
hope we'll get this via ickstream or some other means eventually. I
really love Qobuz for their wonderful, lossless audio quality, but Play
Music is such a joy to use. Useful Playlists, dynamic radio stations
that stay within
Just got the shipping notification from Google. Mine should arrive any
day now :)
New setup:
- ASRock Ion 330, Lubuntu 14.04, LMS 7.9, FLAC
- *Duet* > AKG Hearo 888 Titan (home office), *Boom + Canton ASF 75
SC* (master bedroom), *Boom* (master bathroom), *Radio* (guest
bathroom), *RPi
My preliminary verdict:
The Chromecast Audio is a wonderful piece of hardware. It could benefit
from some better powersaving (power in idle is the same as when
streaming...) but it's not much either way, so no big worries. Sound
quality seems fine, but I haven't done any in-depth testing yet. It
Not convinced that CA is for you as a squeezebox user?
Then, consider the Rocki (see the latest blog update on developments:
http://www.myrocki.com/blog/fall-update/ )
2 immediate pros: it can work as a squeezeplayer via the upnpbridge
plugin, has on/off power switch.
I get the impression that
I'm not sure about the Rocki, I've read a lot of very bad stuff about
their Hardware and Software...
They'll have to show some progress there. Also, the Rocki does not
really solved our biggest problem: Support for Streaming Services.
Google made sure t have the major players onboard, and I think
CommanderROR wrote:
> I'm not sure about the Rocki, I've read a lot of very bad stuff about
> their Hardware and Software...
> They'll have to show some progress there. Also, the Rocki does not
> really solved our biggest problem: Support for Streaming Services.
> Google made sure t have the majo
apologies if this was posted already:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/googles-new-chromecasts-ingenious-cheap-pucks-135300784.html
Using: Win7 64 and LMS 7.8 & Duet with ipads and the logitech app, and
ipeng on an ipod
BJW's
This post is long and a more of a brain dump to help others think about
and discuss the issue.
I've done a bit of investigation into Chromecast to see what sort of
solution is possible and whether it would be usable.
As background I've had an original Chromecast for a few years and I've
ordered
bpa wrote:
> This post is long and a more of a brain dump to help others think about
> and discuss the issue.
>
> I've done a bit of investigation into Chromecast to see what sort of
> solution is possible and whether it would be usable.
Very interesting. I've been giving some thought to what
Mark Miksis wrote:
> Very interesting. I've been giving some thought to what I will switch
> to when the SB is no longer viable and this device is high on my list.
> My current LMS usage consists of:
> - Spotify (using Triode's plugin)
> - Local music (just a small library of things not on Spot
Mark Miksis wrote:
> If I replaced all my players with Chromecast Audio devices, I'm not sure
> why I'd want to continue using LMS at all. What are the key features
> that would make me want to keep LMS?
If you replaced all your SB players - I agree it makes no sense.
This thread started by us
bpa wrote:
> If you replaced all your SB players - I agree it makes no sense.
Ah, now I see! Makes sense now.
I'm curious, do you think your solution would have reliable sync?
Either between chromecast players or between heterogenous players? I'm
anxious to see how well the future sync featu
@bpa
Thanks for your analysis. I think "Casting" from LMS to Chromecast Audio
is the only thing that makes sense. The "point" of it would be
a) Having cheap, compact and high-quality SB Hardware
b) Having a solution for streaming services that LMS does not fully
support (like Google Music)
Abou
Mark Miksis wrote:
> Ah, now I see! Makes sense now.
>
> I'm curious, do you think your solution would have reliable sync?
> Either between chromecast players or between heterogenous players? I'm
> anxious to see how well the future sync feature from Google works.
There would be no sync betw
bpa wrote:
> T
>
> As I see it now, more investigation is needed but it is on the LMS side
> - mainly determining how to create the http stream that the Chromecast
> device will play and how to interact with LMS as a SB player.
To a large extend, this is what I do with squeeze2upnp, as you know
One draw of using Chromecast is the support for new cloud services, an
area in which LMS is falling behind.
As CommanderROR said, in his opinion, the LMS usage model is preferable
than jumping from app to app for Chromecast.
If Chromecast works with LMS as a player as you gave described above,
w
rmjb wrote:
> One draw of using Chromecast is the support for new cloud services, an
> area in which LMS is falling behind.
> As CommanderROR said, in his opinion, the LMS usage model is preferable
> than jumping from app to app for Chromecast.
> If Chromecast works with LMS as a player as you
rmjb wrote:
> One draw of using Chromecast is the support for new cloud services, an
> area in which LMS is falling behind.
> As CommanderROR said, in his opinion, the LMS usage model is preferable
> than jumping from app to app for Chromecast.
> If Chromecast works with LMS as a player as you
philippe_44 wrote:
> To a large extend, this is what I do with squeeze2upnp, as you know. It
> shows LMS a proper squeezelite instance, receives the audio data, buffer
> it locally and then offer to UPnP players a web server where they simply
> 'GET' this buffered audio data with a bit of header
I'm sort of hoping for a dual-purpose use of the Chromecast.
Use it as a Player with LMS for regular stuff, like webradio or local
content where the LMS Server - Client setup is best suited, and cast
directly to the Chromecast Audio from within a supported app for stuff
like Play Music that isn't
CommanderROR wrote:
> I'm sort of hoping for a dual-purpose use of the Chromecast.
> Use it as a Player with LMS for regular stuff, like webradio or local
> content where the LMS Server - Client setup is best suited, and cast
> directly to the Chromecast Audio from within a supported app for stuf
@bpa
For the second part, streaming right to Chromecast, no modifications or
dev work is required, since that is what the CC was built for. So,
basically that comes as a "free extra".
I hope that makes things clear. Really, the only question is, whether
somebody would be able to bridge the gap f
CommanderROR wrote:
> I'll just keep the CA in a drawer...
Yeah, that's where mine is now after one day's experience with it.
kidstypike
1 x SB3 - 1 x Boom - 1 x (Squeezebox) Radio - 2 x Touch - 2 x
piCorePlayer
kidstyp
CommanderROR wrote:
> @bpa
>
> For the second part, streaming right to Chromecast, no modifications or
> dev work is required, since that is what the CC was built for. So,
> basically that comes as a "free extra".
Just making sure everybody understands that support services will only
work with
kidstypike wrote:
> Yeah, that's where mine is now after one day's experience with it.
And when Google support muti room synchronisation, I'll probably have to
buy a 2nd, try sync out, understand it and then put the two devices back
in a drawer.
I can't see the point of this device. It's too tied to Google Play. They
are not going to allow that to change.
A Raspberry Pi with Hifiberry DAC+ seems far more suited but if you want
a consumer thingy then an Amazon Fire with SB Player seems the best bet
to me as long as you have an HDMI Receive
bpa wrote:
> I looked at uPNP for LMS about 8-10 yrs ago and found the
> incompatibilities between implementations too much as to make it
> impractical without buying many uPNP devices and testing. Since then
> DLNA and time has helped but I've admired your tenacity and perseveance
> to create a
@philippe_44
Just in case you are looking for one more challenge besides this, you
could always look into the Google Play Music Plugin here on LMS. It's
currently not being maintained, since Hechtus doesn't have the time.
Work on the unofficial API is coming along slowly but surely, so it
might n
philippe_44 wrote:
> Well ... it was named 'Squeeze2Sonos' at the beginning and that tells
> what I wanted to do initially: a quick hack to integrate my Sonos
> system. Then I think I lost control a bit of the 'expansion' of waht I
> was doing :)
Can be a problem with plugin - knowing when to sa
CommanderROR wrote:
> @philippe_44
>
> Just in case you are looking for one more challenge besides this, you
> could always look into the Google Play Music Plugin here on LMS. It's
> currently not being maintained, since Hechtus doesn't have the time.
> Work on the unofficial API is coming along
bpa wrote:
>
> The other alternative starting point I was thinking about but hadn't
> time to examine the code - would be a Flac variant of the LMS
> http://localhost:9000/stream but it would need to minimise the buffering
> and somehow improve the play control.
>
I wanted to use that initiall
@philippe_44
I completely understand. I just thought it wouldn't hurt to ask. If you
manage to get the Chromecast Audio working, then that would pretty much
make the Play Music app superfluous anyway... 😊
CommanderROR's Pr
philippe_44 wrote:
> TBH, I already have 3 plugins and I'm trying to be overloaded ... I
> really want to find a solution for sync with sq2u and I might choose
> either to do AirPlay or Chromecast audio in addition, but after that my
> plate is (really) full
The amount of time it takes to suppor
@bpa
Believe me, I've tried, but I never got far. I just don't have any
talent whatsoever for coding. So I try to make suggestions and donate to
the devs of stuff I use.
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bpa wrote:
> The amount of time it takes to support a plugin is the hidden side of
> plugin development which users do not appreciate.
>
> What I can't understand is why all these people who make helpful
> suggestions don't want to learn or even try to do a bit of programming -
> it's not rocke
CommanderROR wrote:
> @bpa
> Believe me, I've tried, but I never got far. I just don't have any
> talent whatsoever for coding. So I try to make suggestions and donate to
> the devs of stuff I use.
At least you tried - the problem is that there is a diminishing group of
plugin developers / maint
philippe_44 wrote:
> I really have no pretention to be any good but I don't force anybody do
> use my work :)
I find that program often take three revisions before they look good and
are elegant. Plugins are initially hack jobs trying to glue
incompatible system/technologies together to see if
bpa wrote:
> For example, without looking at the GPMusic plugin code - I'm guessing
> there is an API change and the plugin has used code from some other
> project which probably has experienced the same issue and may even have
> been updated - in which case it is worth trying to copy the update
True. Actually, with a few small changes the GPM Plugin does function.
But it's getting more "patchworky" and once the API implements new
features...
Well never mind. Enough OT here... ☺
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