upstatemike;382900 Wrote:
I see they list Wal-mart, Target
Really? At those release prices?!? Wow.
(Not that I don't believe you, I just find it strange that you can get
a $1000 network music setup at Wal-Mart.)
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I see they list Wal-mart, Target, and Office Max as retail outlets for
this product. Maybe I'll stop at Wal-Mart on my way home from work
tomorrow and see if they have a demo set up for me to try this out...
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Found a partial review on the Media Hub here:
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30688/75/
It also includes some performance data comparing it against other NAS
devices. Data transfer performance looks pretty good for a device in
the price range its in.
Looks like they - sadly -
furonfour;382919 Wrote:
Looks like they - sadly - limited it a lot. A flash user interface may
look nice and spiffy, but customizing it is gonna be a lot harder than
for example SqueezeCenter. Most of the features (backup, media
importer) it supports are aimed at Windows based clients.
I
JJZolx;382932 Wrote:
I thought the Flash interface was just the NAS management.
Correct, it'll be interesting to see what those players use, but with
the touch display and interface I doubt it will be much different.
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Did anybody see hard specs anyplace? Maximum number of zones? Maximum
number of controllers? Is there an option for using wired ethernet in
locations where it is available?
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upstatemike;382374 Wrote:
Did anybody see hard specs anyplace? Maximum number of zones? Maximum
number of controllers? Is there an option for using wired ethernet in
locations where it is available?
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/DMC250
Looks like there's an ethernet port. I
upstatemike;382374 Wrote:
Did anybody see hard specs anyplace? Maximum number of zones? Maximum
number of controllers? Is there an option for using wired ethernet in
locations where it is available?
You can pull the other ones down under each component. Clearly it has
Ethernet as well. I
jt25741;381856 Wrote:
No native FLAC in the player? Transcoding necesssary.802.11n will
be needed even more pushing around uncompressed filesgood for the
business of anyone who sells such devices :)
I just noticed in the specs that it states that the three streaming
formats are
JJZolx;382384 Wrote:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/DMC250
Looks like there's an ethernet port. I imagine number of zones and
controllers may be limited primarily by your network and possibly the
processing power of your server, since none of the boxes run the server
itself
JJZolx;382392 Wrote:
I just noticed in the specs that it states that the three streaming
formats are PCM, MP3 and FLAC, so it must do native FLAC decoding in
the players.
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/DMC250
Page 36 clearly states what is supported on the player, and FLAC
jt25741;382482 Wrote:
Page 36 clearly states what is supported on the player, and FLAC is not
there (mp3, AAC-LC, WMA9, and WAV).On another manual it states FLAC
is transcoded...just poke around. The system supports FLAC, but not
over the air -- two different topics.
May be Streamed
JJZolx;382392 Wrote:
I just noticed in the specs that it states that the three streaming
formats are PCM, MP3 and FLAC, so it must do native FLAC decoding in
the players.
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/DMC250
I wonder if it supports gapless playback. This is the sort of
maggior;382514 Wrote:
I wonder if it supports gapless playback. This is the sort of detail
that is easily missed by companies whose core competencies are not
audio related. That will irritate the hell out of audio enthusiasts
that spend tons of money on this system. And how quickly do you
Don't forget that Cisco has also owned Scientific Atlanta, the set-top
box maker, for the past couple of years. Cisco is making a serious push
into the consumer market, and they want to have a whole house solution,
based on Cisco products.
Their goal is to increase consumer media consumption,
This should be a good development for everyone. The streamer market is
still so small that new entrants are likely to expand the market rather
than cannibalize other manufacturers.
Re; pricing, it would be unlikely that the launch prices would hold.
Comparisons at the moment may not be
No native FLAC in the player? Transcoding necesssary.802.11n will
be needed even more pushing around uncompressed filesgood for the
business of anyone who sells such devices :)
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jt25741;381856 Wrote:
No native FLAC in the player? Transcoding necesssary.802.11n will
be needed even more pushing around uncompressed filesgood for the
business of anyone who sells such devices :)
Nah, they just compress that silly lossless file :)
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jt25741;381856 Wrote:
No native FLAC in the player? Transcoding necesssary.802.11n will
be needed even more pushing around uncompressed filesgood for the
business of anyone who sells such devices :)
Yes, that is a major problem.
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HectorHughMunro;381942 Wrote:
Yes, that is a major problem.
I've played around with streaming Flac as WAV/PCM on my server and can
easily stream to four sync'd Squeezeboxes while doing this (never tried
more than that). Typically, Flac compression only nets about 30-40% in
increased storage
JJZolx;381944 Wrote:
I've played around with streaming Flac as WAV/PCM on my server and can
easily stream to four sync'd Squeezeboxes while doing this (never tried
more than that). Typically, Flac compression only nets about 30-40% in
increased storage space or bandwidth, so if your
thomsens;380852 Wrote:
..
Whoever thought Cisco doesn't get it, really doesn't understand Cisco.
They have been putting audio and video on IP for years and have been
preaching network based applications forever. The only real question
is their ability to deliver a compelling
Maybe instead of viewing Cisco as a competitor Logitech/SD should try
and partner with them to incorporate SqueezeCenter in their Media Hubs
and media networking components to ease the home and internet
networking hurdles. I think this would benefit both companies. I have
no idea about the
toby10;381020 Wrote:
I have *NO* experience with Cisco, I do have experience with Linksys
products. Cisco may well get the design aspect, but they had better
seriously ramp up customer support for such consumer devices.
If they rely on the Linksys model for customer support of consumer
I think these are some really cool products, but as has been said this
is a direct shot at Sonos, not as much at squeeze.
This will likely go one of two ways - it will be a decent hit and grab
some amount of the market share or help grow the market.
OR
It will be a huge flop - introducing all
My instinct tells me that this is a positive development for the Squeeze
line.
I would bet that Logitech/SB rarely loses potential sales to
competitors. Because, there are few competitors and few sales. This is
a niche market that isn't very large or well known. Greater success
must come from
I agree above this being a positive development for the market, though
it doesn't appeal much to me as an existing SB user. Assuming they
deliver as promised it does look like a better Sonos than Sonos
(feature by feature-- especially the iPod dock).
More interesting (for me), Cisco's approach
Engadget
Linksys by Cisco Wireless Home Audio System Unveiled
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/linksys-by-cisco-wireless-home-audio-system-unveiled/
Linksys announces Media Hub NAS
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/linksys-announces-media-hub-nas/
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Threads merged.
The product looks pretty impressive though pricey. Very thorough and
complete, and an emphasis on lossless.
I don't understand the Player product though. You control it through
an IR remote, but no display on the remote or the player? So how do you
know what you're playing,
Thanks for the merge.
Yes competition is good. It is going to be interesting how all this
flushes out over the coming year(s).
I would like to see the ipod integration hit the squeeze.
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Just looking at what they are selling and the price of it makes me
wonder.
Looks nice and simple until you ask the question - how do you get your
music onto the thing? Once its there how do you back it up? Don't
expect there to be a raid option either - Linksys released a NAS
without raid in
The player is just an expensive SqueezeBox Receiver. I looked over at
the Sono's forum and there are many postings about this topic with
pretty good detail about the Cisco product. There is a general concern
on the Sonos forum about how this might impact thier product of choice.
From what I
I like the Squeezebox, but wireless N sure does sound nice given my
occasional drops and inability to use a ethernet solution in my
particular case. Wish the product or could be upgraded to N ...
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After looking through the product announcements, the really amazing
thing is how coherent the product line is right out of the door. Just
goes to show what can be done with sufficient capital resources.
The iPod dock and the CD player are just a couple of interesting parts
of the system.
Howard Passman;379675 Wrote:
You'll have to learn IOS or use the world's worst GUI, then you'll have
to beg for a service contract. Of course support will be decent, but
if you think Squeezebox Wiki is bad, wait until you see CISCO's help
pages. Or you could pay to take classes and get
JJZolx;380732 Wrote:
After looking through the product announcements, the really amazing
thing is how coherent the product line is right out of the door. Just
goes to show what can be done with sufficient capital resources.
The iPod dock and the CD player are just a couple of interesting
I wonder if the amp with the CD player built in can actually rip music
to the server. Now that would be a darn good idea.
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With Cisco's money, they can hire any interior architect they want.
I'm extremely impressed by the launch and agree with JJZolx on how
complete the solution is. SD and Sonos have been at it for some time
and this is basically 1.0 for Cisco. I've always thought they have a
good chance at making
Apologies if this had been posted before, but could not find the link in
this thread after a quick glance:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/promo/Promotion-WHA
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I keep hearing more and more about this product. I guess we will know
more very soon. But here are some of the points I have heard about.
- Wireless N network
- Receiver + amp available w/ color display
- Receiver w/ no amp w/ color display
- Device with built in receiver / amp / speakers /
You'll have to learn IOS or use the world's worst GUI, then you'll have
to beg for a service contract. Of course support will be decent, but
if you think Squeezebox Wiki is bad, wait until you see CISCO's help
pages. Or you could pay to take classes and get (insert name of their
music prduct
Don´t Cisco own Kiss? And they hardly made the impact they should have
there. But the more competition the merrier, I agree.
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tamanaco;377352 Wrote:
Let's not forget that on the foundation (legacy) laid down by these old
suits is where all these new digital SlimYahGoo (pun intended) is built
on. As said above, having Cisco join the party is a good thing. Smart
Cisco boxes for home entertainment derived from
Funny how Cisco seems to have forgotten previous product such as LInksys
WMA11B music picture streamer or the KIss networked video.
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pippin;377632 Wrote:
I agree they lay the foundations on which we build a lot of things, but
groundworks people don't necessarily make for good interior architects.
True... but I rather live in an ugly house than in one with a cracked
foundation and bad plumbing. I also agree that Cisco has
tamanaco;377720 Wrote:
True... but I rather live in an ugly house than in one with a cracked
foundation and bad plumbing. I also agree that Cisco has not been
successful in the consumer market or at properly assimilating the small
companies they acquire... Linksys is a good example... but
It appears that Cisco System will be announcing several products
targeting the home digital entertainment at CES including a wireless
digital stereo system. Article in yesterday's NY Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/29/technology/29cisco.html
(Note: If you get an add just click skip in the
#8220;Today your content is very tightly tied to a device,#8221; Mr.
Hooper said. #8220;Your music is tied to your iPod
LOL. So not much sign the Cisco 'suits' get it...I reckon they'll need
to acquire someone with a track record. Sonos?
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As a consumer who spends a good portion of his time working with my home
audio/video streaming, I say the more the merrier.
The greater the variety the better the chance we'll overcome DRM
restrictions and iTunes style lock-in. That's why I was heartened by
iLuv offering an Internet streaming
Let's not forget that on the foundation (legacy) laid down by these old
suits is where all these new digital SlimYahGoo (pun intended) is built
on. As said above, having Cisco join the party is a good thing. Smart
Cisco boxes for home entertainment derived from enterprise strength
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