I think one has to keep in mind that we're talking about a market space
(bringing digital media to the living room) that is still in its
infancy. SD is clearly leading at this point, and from Logitech's
point of view $20M is a pretty small investment to make sure they keep
the lead on their compe
junien;147441 Wrote:
> Actually I am not sure I see a dicotomy between tech-led development and
> user-friendliness. In fact I was personally impressed about the ease of
> installation and of use of my Squeezebox. The user interface of the
> Slim Server could probably become more consumer oriente
As junien stated:
"We are much more interested in extending the current technology to new
hardware products and new markets."
I hope to see that SB WiFi Boombox full of knobs and whistles!
I also think that the increased product visibility will put a strain on
SD's support and this forum/commu
Hey! stop being selfish. Give SD an Logitech a chance to prove
themselves. I dont use to post a lot, but I can speak for myself in
this regard:
This is great news for SD and the hard work they done so far, so I must
say CONGRATULATIONS. Events like this prove the excelent company SD
evolve into,
I find myself agreeing with rick's cafe in some respects.
I bought my SB3 because I'd read on another forum that some folks were
finding that their SB's were giving some serious hi-end players a good
run for the money. If someone was saying that whilst sat on a £10k
player investment then I simp
First off, congratulations to LogiTech, you have made a wise investment
in a great company.
I hope you will keep the SlimDevices branding. LogiTech has a good
reputation for making quality products at an affordable price but it is
viewed by consumers as a mass merchandise company. SlimDevices,
totoro;147733 Wrote:
> ...at this point, rowland is selling icepower amps with el cheapo asp
> modules in them for 5k-- the whole scene has jumped the shark, imho.
A poignant remark indeed about the "audiophile" community, and
hopefully NOT too prescient regarding the fate of Slim Devices
post-L
jmpage2;147760 Wrote:
> Wow, less than 12 hours after the announcement and people are already
> predicting doom and gloom that they don't have "bragging rights" or
> "niche status" with their Squeezeboxes any longer.
>
> Folks, I thought it was about the music. Logitech can probably help
> Slim
congrats guys!
Just don't do what Empeg did:( (got bought out by sonicblue/rio, which
promptly killed the product by poor marketting.. oh well... still the
best mp3 car head unit i've seen even 6 years later...)
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jmpage2;147760 Wrote:
> likely one big benefit of the acquisition is that prices will go down.
I'll believe that when I see it. Logitech already has a $199 product
in this category, which isn't half as good as the SB3.
BTW, I paid $199 each for the last 2 SB3s I bought, getting wired
models wi
Will new SB3's and Transporters be shipping with the Logitech logo on
them at this point?
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junien;147441 Wrote:
> The user interface of the Slim Server could probably become more
> consumer oriented. Yet this is not a priority.
It should be. If you guys want to market this to a broader group of
consumers, it really, really should have a slicker user interface along
the lines of the i
Joe Craig;147701 Wrote:
> If you're interested in a postive example, I'm assuming that Logitec
> purchased Harmony, and that's why the remotes are named Logitec
> Harmony.
So will the new devices be named Slim Logic?
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Congratulation's Guy's,
I hope the acquisition finally gives you the opportunity to integrate a
nice video solution (of cause open source based) and I also hope that
you don't have the same destiny as Empeg had when they were acquired.
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hello all,
i did the industrial design and most of the product design engineering
for the squeezebox 3, transporter and the new remote. from my
perspective, logitech's acquisition of slim devices bodes well for new
product development. finding and affording quality vendors to do the
various plast
Certainly congratulations are in order for the SlimDevices crew.
It makes me nervous primarily because of the issue of product focus.
Slim was always very focused. Logitech is much larger with a much
more diverse product line, and I fear that the product focus may be
lost.
Of course, with m
First: Congrats to all of the SlimDevices owners and employees. Make
sure Sean buys the rounds tonight.
Second: While I was going to wait until Christmas to purchase my second
SB3, this pushed me over the edge. I read through all 14 pages (and
counting I'm sure) of this thread and pressed the
Mitch Harding;147762 Wrote:
> Was Harmony open source prior to the acquisition by Logitech? If not,
> it
> seems like apples and oranges, as far as that goes.
>
I know it looks like apples and oranges, but not when you look at SD
and Harmony as small nimble companies that were able to turn the
I'm relatively new to SD, but I have been impressed with the quality of
the product and the responsiveness and enthusiasm of everyone involved
both from the company and active forum contributors.
The SD product appealed to me not only for its high spec but also
because it was a techie and tweakab
Like the guy above, I bought a Harmony remote one month before Logitech
bought them, and I bought a Squeezebox 1 month before Logitech bought
them. My buying habits are obviously of intense interest to Logitech.
In that case, I can tell them that a major reason I bought the
Squeezebox was that t
Wow, less than 12 hours after the announcement and people are already
predicting doom and gloom that they don't have "bragging rights" or
"niche status" with their Squeezeboxes any longer.
Folks, I thought it was about the music. Logitech can probably help
Slim reduce costs on the more mainstrea
davep wrote:
2. The Transporter is my second area of concern. I can see how the SB3
might fit into a Logitech product line-up as they are obviously moving
into that area, but not the Transporter - it just not feel like a match
for a company founded on mice and keyboards. And, as others have
poi
Was Harmony open source prior to the acquisition by Logitech? If not, it seems like apples and oranges, as far as that goes.On 10/19/06, tamanaco <
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Mitch G;147743 Wrote:>> One final thought, I always forget that Harmony is owned by Logitech.> In other words, they are Harm
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Mitch G;147743 Wrote:
>
> One final thought, I always forget that Harmony is owned by Logitech.
> In other words, they are Harmony remotes - not Logitech remotes. I
> don't see why this same phenomenon won't occur for SD products.
> Mitch
The BIG unknown in this equation is SD's "Open Source" a
Mark Lanctot;147709 Wrote:
> Err, aren't you asking for contradictory things?
>
> "Drop the price to $199."
>
> "Don't cheapen it."
He did say $199 to the resellers.
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totoro;147733 Wrote:
> Sorry if I sounded snippy.
You didn't, that's OK. :-)
> I guess we just disagree about whether losing that particular market
> segment is truly a shame :).
Not exactly - as I said, I don't really think it pays the bills for
Slim Devices. The SB3 is their bread and butt
Maybe I'm in the minority, but my SB sits alongside my one and only
hi-fi system (i.e. home theater and music system). It's the only
IP-networked element in that system.
So, SD has managed to get footprint in my HT before any other IP-based
device has (e.g. Apple or Microsoft). I would love to s
Congratulations, team! You've developed some great products needed in
the market!
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Pale Blue Ego;147695 Wrote:
> Paranoid thoughts:
>
> If Logitech, who just launched a product in this category, saw Slim as
> a major threat, then $20 million is a drop in the bucket. If they
> wanted to kill the SB so it wouldn't compete with their own product,
> this is a cheap way to do it.
Mark Lanctot;147722 Wrote:
> I didn't say that I buy based on bragging rights either, I buy based on
> quality and performance.
>
> I was just saying that that segment of the market may have to be
> dropped, because Slim Devices may be able to sell Transporters, but
> Logitech might not, even if
Congratulations Slim Team!
Like others in this forum I feel that this will be the end of innocence
for SD. In most cases where small innovative/independent companies are
acquired by large bureaucratic publicly traded companies... innovation
becomes the first victim. The killer(s)?... A: The exces
I still love my original SliMP3 and I've steered many friends and family
into buying a Squeezebox. Great stuff. I hope you guys have all been
handsomely rewarded for building such a great company.
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totoro;147718 Wrote:
> But if the quality stays the same or better, who really cares if the
> "audiophile credibility" goes down? At $300, the sb3 already
> doesn't have "enough", and is cheap enough to go pretty mass market.
>
> I, for one, couldn't care less, since what I want from the thing i
Mark Lanctot;147478 Wrote:
> The Transporter is their first, and only, very high-end audiophile,
> niche product. Depending on how things work out, it could be that Slim
> Devices may not be able to introduce new products to this market - they
> may no longer have the "credentials" for this. I
The thing that worries me is that the first post made by a Logitech
employee included the word "leverage"...
run away!!!
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kdf wrote:
> From the working side of the picture, I can certainly imagine that
> expanding user base with the existing small club will be crippling.
As is often the case, kdf's comment is among the most insightful
among the chatter. The one thing I fear about this change is
notanatheist;147545 Wrote:
> Then again, if we can get individual units for $199 or less as a
> reseller then I'm on it. Just please keep things as they are with
> SlimDevices and don't try to customize or cheapen it with a crappy LCD
> or proprietary software.
Err, aren't you asking for contrad
Congrats to Sean and the folks at Slim. It's hard to turn down cash when
it's staring you in the face.
But unfortunately I just can't help but think that this will be the
demise of Slim as we know it. My thoughts went right to negative as I
read the news this morning.
I may now wish that I had o
I have been mulling this over all day thinking about my reactions to
what was actually quite a shock first thing this morning. I have two
concerns at this point.
1. One of the major attractions for me about the whole SS/SB thing has
been the incredible responsiveness to user demand and its seemi
Michaelwagner;147672 Wrote:
> And where was the link to that picture?
http://flickr.com/photos/ycantpark/25737470/
Sean did sucessfully defend himself here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=47272&postcount=9
seanadams;47272 Wrote:
> First of all, that is exactly where they told m
Congrats Slim and Sean - well done with taking your business where it
has to go to continue to grow like it needs to in order to survive :-)
I don't tend to get emotionally tied to product, just go for the best
compromise I can find at the time I am looking. Will watch this space
with great inter
I hope Logitech understands what they have bought.
If you're interested in a postive example, I'm assuming that Logitec
purchased Harmony, and that's why the remotes are named Logitec
Harmony.
For me, congratulations to the Slim Devices people!
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)p(;147694 Wrote:
> The design of the 1000 sure comes close to the brushed metal rounded
> corners look of the sb3 already...seems like a pretty good basis for
> creating the sb remote everyone seems to want ;)
> peter
Judging by a comment Sean made some time back and the new SD ownership
I'm sur
Paranoid thoughts:
If Logitech, who just launched a product in this category, saw Slim as
a major threat, then $20 million is a drop in the bucket. If they
wanted to kill the SB so it wouldn't compete with their own product,
this is a cheap way to do it.
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I am an old Amiga user - bought the original 1000 when it hit the
shelves.
Amiga was bought by Commodore. Commodore was no stranger to computers,
having been involved with the 6502 development and having brought the
PET and the 64 to market.
And yet, they didn't understand what they had bought,
I think it's definitely too early to tell how this is going to impact
the future generations of the SqueezeBox and Transporter lines ... my
personal feeling is that they're going to loose some "Street Cred"
if/when logitech puts thier big goofy-looking logo on the product.
I am quite happy that I
Anyone who has worked in software development knows how expensive it can
be, even in open source.
One of the problems we have seen already is the lack of proprietary
formats and DRM support. This requires licensing, which requires
money.
Now Slim Devices has some deep pockets behind them to supp
One thing I have to ask ... will the cash infusion mean that a homeplug
version might be possible now?
And I second the comment about having to being prepared for a bunch of
newbies in the beginner forum.
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funkstar;147652 Wrote:
> Can he park it any better than the Merc he had a few years ago?
Low blow! :-)
And where was the link to that picture?
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Dan Sully;147560 Wrote:
> Too late, Sean already has a Porsche.
Hopefully it's easier to park than the last one.
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Now what?
Squeezebox3 (linear PSU) > Benchmark Dac1 > Naim NAC 82 > Naim NAP 250
> Shahinian Arcs. Plus other irrelevant, superfluous and annoying black
boxes.
When I purchased my SB, I immediately started to worry about the
viability of SlimDevices. Will they be there forever for me? I
worried even more after I fell in love with the product, the service,
the forum, even the server software (despite some fits and starts). I
work for a company that is
cool, i hope this will let slim get devices into more households...
and you can say you were there when it all began!
I'll put my slimp3 next to my 1st gen ipod in the trophy cabinet
also i hope that this will enable a more consumer-product (as oopose to
geek-toy) approach. I'd love to see
Congratulations!
I see no immediate impact on my own Slim relationship, but note happily
that this deal just possibly might be a beachhead into mainstream
consumption of electronic gadgets, for a heavily open sourced community
product development participation model. Hopefully more mainstream
Let's be realistic. When you are in business, there are offers you
simply can't refuse.
I'm only sorry I don't own SD stock.
Congrats to all at SD
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I think this is good news - what Slim needed to progress to mass market was more R&D investment, access to mainstream, global, distribution and cheaper manufacturing costs to get the end product price down.All of that should come with Logitech. They're one of the high end aftermarket peripheral co
CardinalFang;147634 Wrote:
> ...as I said a Logitech Transporter doesn't appeal to my hifi snob
> sensibilities...
This is bang on the mark. The high-end audio marketplace is *extremely*
badge-sensitive, and the Transporter branded as a Logitech product will
not sell, period.
What ought to come
Dan Sully;147560 Wrote:
> Too late, Sean already has a Porsche.
Can he park it any better than the Merc he had a few years ago?
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Congratulations to the Slim Devices team, and to Logitech as well. I
share the concern of many others about where the new ownership will
take the product line, and especially what will happen to its open and
cross-platform nature. An earlier favorite gadget of mine, Xircom's Rex
6000 micro-PDA, di
Re: Continued linux support:
seanadams;147594 Wrote:
> That is the plan. It is a small effort since our software is
> fundamentally platform independent anyway, and NAS support is also an
> important and growing part of our business. Oh, and SqueezeNetwork runs
> on Linux. :)
>
>
>
> Don't ex
CardinalFang;147634 Wrote:
> as I said a Logitech Transporter doesn't appeal to my hifi snob
> sensibilities, but perhaps it'll evolve and look even cooler.Well... you
> already said it: you know what's inside. You could mod it to
your heart's content and have the greatest player in a totally co
-What will happen to openness in regard to platforms and data
It's been mentioned before: SQN is running on Linux (or even BSD?) -
they'll have to further support *x systems if they want to continue SQN.
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flattop100;147616 Wrote:
> Seems to me that only happens in companies who don't love what they
> make. I get the totally opposite impression from SD.
The snappy answer is that they currently enjoy what they do, that may
change for the worse or it may get better. Don't forget it isn't
strictly SD
Hi,
Speaking as a Windows desktop user and Logitech purchaser (mouse,
keyboard, pc speakers, Harmony) I suppose I should applaud the news,
but I do think those with the most concerns will be the open source
community who may fear a forking of development and maybe being left
with a product with le
seanadams;147487 Wrote:
> Their press release has not gone out yet - I wanted us to announce it
> here first.This deserves a separate thank you. I've personally been involved
> in a
corporate acquisition and giving info the go on an internet forum
speaks volumes about your dedication to customer
I'm likewise in the "congrats" camp. Sean and the team at SD, as well
as all those other contributors from the developers forum have done a
fantastic job and developed a great product in the Squeezebox. But I'm
not surprised that SD has decided to come under the umbrella of a larger
organisation
junien;147410 Wrote:
> Let me introduce myself. My name is Junien Labrousse, Logitech SVP of
> the Entertainment and Communication Business Unit.Dear Junien, if you treat
> them well you'll be rewarded by a very loyal
community of early adopters, opinion leaders and trend setters.
I'm personally
Dear Sean and Junien,
I sincerely hope and ask you will find opportunity to answer this one
question:
-What will happen to openness in regard to platforms and data
formats?-
I use BSD and keep all my music in FLAC. Concisely put, this is a
principled conscientious choice. I would be very sad to
Dear Sean and Julien,
I sincerely hope and ask you will find opportunity to answer this one
question:
What will happen to openness in regard to platforms and data formats?
I use BSD and keep all my music in FLAC. Concisely put, this is a
principled conscientious choice. I would be very sad to se
junien;147410 Wrote:
> Let me introduce myself. My name is Junien Labrousse, Logitech SVP of
> the Entertainment and Communication Business Unit.
> The first thing I'll say is that we are very excited about the
> opportunity that Slim Devices will bring to Logitech. This is
> a great extension
> I've watched and been involved in acquisitions several times. The usual
> timetable is that the founders leave as soon as the financial handcuffs
> come off (earn-outs, restricted stock selling etc.), key staff go
> somewhere else where the small compoany spirit still exists (or where
> there is
Sean
You mentioned NAS support - well it would seem a logical development to
have a NAS branded device (even with the recent tie-ups). If you /
logitech / infrant do end up on the NAS route please *please* PLEASE do
not lock the system down and allow it to be configurable. Decent NAS
blocks which
junien;147441 Wrote:
> Actually I am not sure I see a dicotomy between tech-led development and
> user-friendliness. In fact I was personally impressed about the ease of
> installation and of use of my Squeezebox. The user interface of the
> Slim Server could probably become more consumer oriente
I think it was inevitable, a small company like SlimDevices wouldn't be
able to compete as larger companies would have basically copied the SB
and made it cheaper sooner rather than later.
So an acquisition by Logitech, whereas everyone has concerns over small
innovative company swallowed up by l
Congratulations, Sean & team - I'm on my 4th SD device and have
recommended to many others - only recently retired the SLiMP3 -
together with my tivo, these are the best range of electronic devices
that I've ever had the pleasure of owning, and hope the research and
development continues to push t
ehjones;147587 Wrote:
> Hi,
> What are the plans for continued linux support?
>
That is the plan. It is a small effort since our software is
fundamentally platform independent anyway, and NAS support is also an
important and growing part of our business. Oh, and SqueezeNetwork runs
on Linux. :)
Hi,
What are the plans for continued linux support?
Logitech doesn't appear to support use of it's devices under linux at
all - is this set to change?
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And to think that I just bought a Logitech 880 last week to enhance my
SB experience
I've used Logitech mice for years - they are great products. Sorry, but
I just can't get enthused about "Logitech high-end audio" gear.
Don't get me wrong, I'm always Mr Glass Half Full Optimist - I just
ha
SteveEast;147456 Wrote:
> So I bought a Harmony remote and Logitech bought Harmony. Then I buy a
> Slim Devices SB and Logitech buy SD. OK, I'm gonna buy a wood chipper
> this weekend - let's see Logitech buy Yard Machines.
>
> Steve.
Got up this morn and had to do a doubletake, as I ordered an
Most people dont like the idea of a small independant company with a
good track record being taken over by a large multi-national; always
fearing (often rightly) that product quality, support takes a nose
dive. This may happen even now - we can hope not and that certainly
over the next year or so
Thoughts:
I don't blame anyone for cashing in. They've worked hard and deserve
to be rewarded. But only $20 million for the world's leading player in
a rapidly emerging field? Where are the guys who negotioted the YouTube
deal when ya need 'em?
Maybe Slim believed they would be steamrolled by
My experience with Logitech products has been good AND bad..
Bought the original Cyberman and Cyberman 2 for 3D gaming (Descent) and
they both were quite expensive and horrible build quality. Logitech
would not stand by either of these products which left me with a very
bad taste in my mouth.
joncourage;147544 Wrote:
> Here's the official Press Release:
>
> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/061018/20061018006053.html?.v=1
>
> Seems to me for all intents and purposes to have been made public
> around the same time as Sean's original post here.
Sean was 2 hours earlier, if I have my time zon
I am very happy for Slimdevices and the excellent team there. I am a
proud owner of 2 SBa, and I have bought 3 more for friends and family.
The product, the company and it's attitude towards customers, users etc
has been exemplary. All my interactions - whether it is buying SBs, a
spare power ca
funkstar;147440 Wrote:
> When i saw this thread i had to make sure it wasn't April 1st.
Funny. That was my first thought too. Damn! Did I manage to sleep
through the entire winter?
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The way I see it, Slim has a great product line ready for mass market
adoption.
By not taking advantage of that product being one of the best out there
and becoming the iPod of network music players, it just becomes a matter
of time before Apple or some Chinese/Taiwanese producer brings out a
clo
Congrats to the Slim team!!
Well, only time will tell what will happen. Will Sean stick with
Logitech over the long haul, which is easy to say "yes" to now.
However, the soul and excitement of creating and fostering a successful
startup becomes lost in sea of politics, budgets and profit margin
radish;147454 Wrote:
> my Harmony 880 STILL won't charge properly because of a faulty cradle,
> and support are pretty horrible to deal with) but we'll see.
The 880 cradle problem has been fixed. Harmony should be happy to send
you a new improved one. They sent me 2 new cradles and a new
rech
Too late, Sean already has a Porsche.
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Please just keep FLAC and high quality sound/DAC. that is all that I
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Well, I'm saddened. Once the MBAs, lawyers, and accountants get ahold
of Slim, things will change.
Good bye hackable hardware - someone might zap themselves and sue.
Good bye over-engineered/quality components - If we change to this DAC
and reduce the cost by $X while reducing the retail price b
On 18-Oct-06, at 8:08 PM, joncourage wrote:
> Not exactly like the Forum got some great advance scoop (and that
probably wouldn't even
be legal since Logi is publicly traded).
time of post was about 2pm pacific. time of that article 9:57 pm ET
so that's about 5 hours by my count. Fairly
Congratulations. I've been a fan of SlimDevices for a long while (since
way before I was a customer); now I hope you can create the same
enthusiasm in a much broader audience.
And good luck! Don't let the suits in! :-)
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...Oh, no. Must get my Transporter fast, before they change the logo. It isCorporate America is focused on maximizing profits. Build your product
as cheaply as possible. Sell as much as possible. Ignore your customersas much as the laws allow you to. S
Congratulations to Slim Devices on its latest success. I hope that the
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V
I am a new member to this forum. I have had my Squeezebox3 for only one
week. I did a lot of research before finding a product that was open
source, high quality, and also has a wonderful user forum and WIKI.
After recieving my Squeezebox, I couldn't believe how great it sounds
and looks... I wa
Wow. Shocking to say the least. Then again, if we can get individual
units for $199 or less as a reseller then I'm on it. Just please keep
things as they are with SlimDevices and don't try to customize or
cheapen it with a crappy LCD or proprietary software. I know this has
been covered already bu
Here's the official Press Release:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/061018/20061018006053.html?.v=1
Seems to me for all intents and purposes to have been made public
around the same time as Sean's original post here. Not exactly like
the Forum got some great advance scoop (and that probably wouldn't eve
Oy. The beginning of the end. What a profound shame.
autopilot;147430 Wrote:
> I can't blame you for doing this, but i too am very worried.
>
> So please now please dispense with the vague PR speak, and please be as
> up front and honest as you can - how is this actually going to work?
>
Obv
As a happy Logitech stockholder (130% increase), I think Slim Devices is
a great acquisition. I was an early buyer of your SliMP3 player, and
apart from a couple of poor server releases, I've been very satisfied
with what you've produced. Maybe I'll cash in some gains and buy a
Transporter... Good
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