ceejay;173318 Wrote:
> ok, that eliminates a few possibilities...
>
> Can you try it wired instead of wireless, just as an experiment?
OK will try that but it will take me some time to set up. I will let
you know of the outcome. By the way, if it is important: the wireless
signal is between 88-
cumry;173313 Wrote:
> I do believe it was actually 6.5. as I update evertyhing once it is
> released.
ok, that eliminates a few possibilities...
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ceejay;173309 Wrote:
> What version were you at previously?
I do believe it was actually 6.5. as I update evertyhing once it is
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cumry;173294 Wrote:
> Hi there,
> I could not find a thread on this ...
>
> I was wondering if anybody could help me. Yesterday I updated to
> SS6.5.1 and updated my Squeezebox 3 as well, but now it does not seem
> to be working :-( The squeezebox cuts out after between 5 seconds and 3
> mins
I am having the same problem with my SB2 and slimserver 6.5.1
I am not able to start my squeezebox from the player or web interface.
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jonheal;173035 Wrote:
> Tell 'em you want your coffee cold, too. That'll save a few extra
> watts!:-)
The expression that comes to mind over all this is "penny-wise,
pound-foolish".
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Skunk;172965 Wrote:
> Plus you'll *feel* better if you walk to Starbucks.
>
> The humorous thing is people act like the two (walking and turning
> things off) are mutually exclusive. Turn the freakin' light off before
> you go!
Tell 'em you want your coffee cold, too. That'll save a few extra
Our daughter has a curious one-way effect on instant-on televisions. She
walks into a room, the TV comes on. The effect is not symettric, though
- when she walks out of the room, the TV never goes off again.
Drives me absolutely nuts.
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jonheal;172909 Wrote:
> This is all very humorous.
>
> Restrict your driving so that you use THREE gallons less gasoline
> (maybe, what ... 75 miles?), and you've saved enough energy to run your
> SqueezeBox full blast for a year.
Plus you'll *feel* better if you walk to Starbucks.
The humoro
cparker;172543 Wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> This is very interesting research. If other people have measuring
> devices, could I ask that they measure the usage of their amp and its
> make/model? I'm looking to replace my amp in the future and want to
> find the least power hungry one!
>
> I'll mea
This is all very humorous.
Restrict your driving so that you use SIX gallons less gasoline (maybe,
what ... 150 miles?), and you've saved enough energy to run your
SqueezeBox full blast for a year.
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tyler_durden;172678 Wrote:
> If you are looking for a minimal power drain amplifier, get a "Class-D"
> amplifier. They are essentially switch-mode power supplies with the
> input signal as a reference and the output connected to a speaker.
> Efficiencies run as high as 90%. These are relativel
If the point was to generate heat, I'd agree with you.
But the point was, we keep these devices on for utility. They "waste" a
certain amount of power when on standby. The claim was made that this
isn't totally wasted, because it generates heat, so the "waste" is at
least partially offset by lowe
My initial point is getting lost:
Electricity is an inefficient method of generating heat.
Better to turn off devices and use fossil fuels, bio-fuels for
heating.
The point about Nuclear power and Hydro-electric being completely clean
is incorrect when you consider the embodied energy in constr
Paul_B;172729 Wrote:
> Most electricity isn't nuclear, most power is fossil fuel.
This is highly dependent on where you live.
Where I live:
> Ontario Power Generation operates 64 hydroelectric, 5 fossil and 3
> nuclear stations producing more than 22,000 megawatts of much needed
> electricity.
(thread drift)
I've seen numbers that suggest that devices on standby use a
surprisingly high percentage of domestic power overall, just due to
their prevalence and the total time they are running. Recent
improvements seem to have driven the wattages much lower, but that's
countered by all those
Mark Lanctot;172682 Wrote:
>
> My current one is MUCH more powerful, yet doesn't have a heatsink. I
> was concerned about this, but it doesn't even get warm during
> operation. This implies a lot less power wasted as heat.
Class D amps were first applied to battery operated systems that neede
Most electricity isn't nuclear, most power is fossil fuel.
Also worth considering is the embodied energy in a nuclear power
station. How much CO2 is release in the construction of the nuclear
power station and how much CO2 is released during the decommisioning of
a nuclear power station? Radioac
Paul_B;172690 Wrote:
> In reference to Karma's post about heating. Electricity is a very
> inefficient form of heating. A fossile fuel power station is at best
> 35% efficient, then take into account power line losses and
> inefficiencies in the transformer. You are much better turning off the
>
In reference to Karma's post about heating. Electricity is a very
inefficient form of heating. A fossile fuel power station is at best
35% efficient, then take into account power line losses and
inefficiencies in the transformer. You are much better turning off the
device and using raw fossil fuel
tyler_durden;172678 Wrote:
> If you are looking for a minimal power drain amplifier, get a "Class-D"
> amplifier. They are essentially switch-mode power supplies with the
> input signal as a reference and the output connected to a speaker.
> Efficiencies run as high as 90%. These are relativel
If you are looking for a minimal power drain amplifier, get a "Class-D"
amplifier. They are essentially switch-mode power supplies with the
input signal as a reference and the output connected to a speaker.
Efficiencies run as high as 90%. These are relatively new and not many
are available, bu
cparker;172543 Wrote:
>
> This is very interesting research. If other people have measuring
> devices, could I ask that they measure the usage of their amp and its
> make/model? I'm looking to replace my amp in the future and want to
> find the least power hungry one!
>
> I'll measure my amp
Although my house has a number of devices which draw a small amount of
power when on standby, the effect of these is to add a little bit of
warmth to the house. If they weren't doing it then the heating system
would have to do it.
Ok, that only applies in the winter, but it does mean that 'waste
peterw;171382 Wrote:
>
> The lowest power draw was attained by having the Squeezebox idle ("on"
> or "off", as long as it's not playing an audio stream) with the
> brightness set so the display was completely dark. This took 4 watts
> (US adapter, ~120v AC power, and yes, watts, not volt-amps).
tyler_durden;172183 Wrote:
> While it is true that every little bit helps, not every little bit is
> significant, and it is wrong to teach that it is.
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While it is true that every little bit helps, not every little bit is
significant, and it is wrong to teach that it is. If you focus people
of fixing the 5 watt Squeezebox power "waste" problem, they start
feeling more comfortable about driving a Hummer, because they feel they
have "done their pa
JJZolx;172178 Wrote:
> What? Cause he finished grade school?
Indeed, a luxury in some parts of the world/US.
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Skunk;172172 Wrote:
>
>
> > > > As they used to tell us in grade school...> >
>
> No need to get hoity toity and flaunt your education.
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tyler_durden;172167 Wrote:
> As they used to tell us in grade school, "when you point your finger at
> someone else, you point three back at yourself".
>
> TD
No need to get hoity toity and flaunt your education. The ratio I
quoted was taken from a teacher's program for grade school students,
w
As they used to tell us in grade school, "when you point your finger at
someone else, you point three back at yourself".
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tyler_durden;172102 Wrote:
>
> Your server that drives the SB causes the burning of a lot more coal
> than the SB3. Maybe you should shut the whole system off and not use
> it.
My computer is sometimes used to stress the importance of energy
conservation, so that would have a negative impact
Skunk;171827 Wrote:
> A quick google yielded the approximation of one pound of coal per 1.25
> kWh, which ~ a pound of coal burnt per week to run a Sb3.
A pound of coal per week to run the SB3, or a pound of coal per hour to
run your big screen TV, or 5 gallons of gasoline per hour to power your
MrP;171826 Wrote:
> No, the sever is not restarting, it's been running happily on this PC
> for nearly 18 months with n problems...
Hmmm, after a chat with Slim tech support the advice was that
'something' on the PC was blocking ports, advised to uninstall McAfee
(damn program) and re-install Sl
I've turned d_source debugging on and all I see is this -
songTime: rate:1 -songtime:0 -startStream:0
00:04:20:05:b8:bf: Switching to mode play from stop
openSong on:
file:mrps_disk1/Music_Files/Aerosmith/Devils%20Got%20A%20New%20Disguise%20(The%20Very%20Best%20Of)/01%20Dream%20On.mp3
openSon
sc53;171895 Wrote:
> OK this is going to sound stupid, but my SB3 will often do what you are
> describing on internet radio stations and the only way to reconnect is
> to actually unplug the power cord from the back of the SB3, wait a few
> seconds and plug it back in. After it reboots, reconnect
OK this is going to sound stupid, but my SB3 will often do what you are
describing on internet radio stations and the only way to reconnect is
to actually unplug the power cord from the back of the SB3, wait a few
seconds and plug it back in. After it reboots, reconnects, etc. all is
well. I know
tyler_durden;171762 Wrote:
>
> The power of the whole system is so low that it won't have any
> appreciable impact on your electric bill. If you pay $0.15/kW Hr, and
> the SB3 takes 6W, with power on at all times it will cost you about
> $0.15/week. That comes to <$8 per year.
>
Erm, coal is
snarlydwarf;171772 Wrote:
> Hrrm.. is the server restarting perhaps?
>
> I don't know how to tell on Windows... assuming a fast enough machine
> and no slow-initializing-plugins it could be crashing and coming back
> quickly so you don't notice the crash.
>
> I would think the SB would black th
MrP;171739 Wrote:
> When a song is 'Now Playing' in the Fishbone skin the duration bar only
> ever gets about 1/8 of the way across then restarts from the begining
> again
Hrrm.. is the server restarting perhaps?
I don't know how to tell on Windows... assuming a fast enough machine
and no s
Well, there you go then- measure the power using the power meter
(probably innaccurate at such low power levels), then measure the DC
power by measuring current and calculating. The difference is the
power dissipated by the power supply.
The power of the whole system is so low that it won't have
It seems that if I do a factory reset & connect to SqueezeNetwork (Radio
1) first & not SlimServer it works fine but, as soon as I connect to
SlimServer the silence returns...
Is there any debug I can turn on that might help?
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snarlydwarf;171694 Wrote:
> Have you tried rebooting your router? My cheapo Belkin does something
> like that every month or two, just stops routing things it doesn't feel
> like routing.
Tried everything now, rebooting router, rebooting PC, leaving
everything powered off for 30 mins or so & st
Have you tried rebooting your router? My cheapo Belkin does something
like that every month or two, just stops routing things it doesn't feel
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MrP;171687 Wrote:
> All firewalls disabled and still no good, I'm hardwired in now and the
> SB2 cannot connect to SqueezeNetwork, it tries then just goes blank and
> turns off!
>
> I think I've got gremlins, I can now connect to SqueezeNetwork and all
> is well, now I'll try connecting to my se
seanadams;171682 Wrote:
> If the test tone plays then your hardware is OK. Look for a firewall
> issue, or perhaps something on the server side that is preventing it
> from opening files or something. Also try SqueezeNetwork.
All firewalls disabled and still no good, I'm hardwired in now and the
snarlydwarf;171672 Wrote:
> That the spectrum analyzer shows a flatline would imply that it isnt the
> audio output... I would suspect something like a firewall on your
> server. If the SB can't connect to grab the music stream it will do
> something like what you describe: the server -thinks- t
If the test tone plays then your hardware is OK. Look for a firewall
issue, or perhaps something on the server side that is preventing it
from opening files or something. Also try SqueezeNetwork.
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That the spectrum analyzer shows a flatline would imply that it isnt the
audio output... I would suspect something like a firewall on your
server. If the SB can't connect to grab the music stream it will do
something like what you describe: the server -thinks- the SB is playing
but the SB knows b
Just an update on this, I've tried pressing the power button and
pressing 3, an annoying tone can be heard for ages until I power the
unit off, I've also tried programming xilinx by pressing 1. Still no
sound from the SB2
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Interesting results and good point by Robin. I wonder how much the SB
actually draws when it is off as opposed to how much power the
transformer is taking?
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Remo
tyler_durden wrote:
> Measuring the DC current into the SB would be a better way to measure
> power. Power = V * A (for DC).
That wouldn't measure any power used by the power supply itself (ever
wondered where that heat comes from?)
R.
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Measuring the DC current into the SB would be a better way to measure
power. Power = V * A (for DC).
This can be done accurately with any multimeter that has a current
mode.
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Don't know, sounds like a question you should ask support...
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ceejay;170474 Wrote:
> Have you looked inside at the wireless module (IIRC its a distinct board
> that is plugged in - you could even swap it with your "good" unit to see
> if the fault follows the board.
>
> One fall back, instead of buying a new unit, might be to get a cheap
> Wireless repeate
Have you looked inside at the wireless module (IIRC its a distinct board
that is plugged in - you could even swap it with your "good" unit to see
if the fault follows the board.
One fall back, instead of buying a new unit, might be to get a cheap
Wireless repeater if you can find one...
Ceejay
ceejay;170396 Wrote:
> Not sounding too good then. Have you tried a hard reset of the box?
>
> Press and hold 1 while cycling power will reprogam the xilinx in the
> box. Less drastic than...
>
> Press and hold add while cycling power will do a factory reset of the
> box. (this will erase al
Not sounding too good then. Have you tried a hard reset of the box?
Press and hold 1 while cycling power will reprogam the xilinx in the
box. Less drastic than...
Press and hold add while cycling power will do a factory reset of the
box. (this will erase all current settings)
If these don't
Kyle;170347 Wrote:
> My SB3's mac address got changed for some unknown reason (power surge,
> probably), and I spent much of a day trying to figure out why it would
> not connect to the network. I finally discovered the mac address did
> not match the address on the bottom of the machine. A qui
My SB3's mac address got changed for some unknown reason (power surge,
probably), and I spent much of a day trying to figure out why it would
not connect to the network. I finally discovered the mac address did
not match the address on the bottom of the machine. A quick change of
mac address and
RL boy;170314 Wrote:
> I dont't have MAC filtering enabled.
Check that the MAC address is correct anyway.
Steve.
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Amauta;169949 Wrote:
> Some times the MAC address can change. If you use MAC filtering on your
> wireless network you better check this first.
>
> hold the left button for a while - go to current settings - MAC
> address. Check if it's the same as writen on the bottom of your
> squeezebox.
>
>
sposthuma;170276 Wrote:
> I had a similar issue, perfectly working 2 box wireless setup suddenly
> started having networking issues. Turned out to be network
> interference, perhaps my neighbour got a wireless router or a new phone
> in the same spectrum. Anyway, I changed the channel of the rout
I had a similar issue, perfectly working 2 box wireless setup suddenly
started having networking issues. Turned out to be network
interference, perhaps my neighbour got a wireless router or a new phone
in the same spectrum. Anyway, I changed the channel of the router and
things went back to normal
Some times the MAC address can change. If you use MAC filtering on your
wireless network you better check this first.
hold the left button for a while - go to current settings - MAC
address. Check if it's the same as writen on the bottom of your
squeezebox.
I hope this helps...
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I ended up going back to 6.3.1 which fixed the .cue problem. It has
introduced some other inconveniences, but so far they seem workable.
Finally. Whew.
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I used to have a similar problem, but after having SlimServer rescan my
music library, everything works fine...
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I have a related problem. Getting flac files to play from the server is
spotty and doesn't work at all from the player. .mp3 files work fine
but I've loaded 6.5 and 6.5.1 with no solution.
These are continuous files with .cue cutters.
I get the following error message:
Required binary was not
hi bowmore17,
I use a single WAV and CUE file so I thought I'd give it a go.
I can confirm there is a problem browsing folders using the remote and
Transporter. The Transporter's display and remote function goes to
"lala" land.
The web interface works, well sort of, it seems to only play the fi
Nobody has this problem with cd's encoded into single wav files? The
browsing in server UI works fine, the browser in the player seems to be
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New router and a factory reset on the SB2's fixed it.
NM..I'm rocking again.
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JayNYC;139028 Wrote:
> hey tommy... do you know the automated way to split 248 FLAC+Cuesheet
> albums into individual tracks?
If you're running windows I'm sure foobar will do it without too much
trouble.
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hey tommy... do you know the automated way to split 248 FLAC+Cuesheet
albums into individual tracks?
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That is only an option with 'Now Playing' :(
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. If I use Browse artists to
find an artist then an album and play it, after 30 secs the
screensaver (I use MusicInfo) cuts in, then if I use the left key I'm
taken back to the album I originally
Richie Wrote:
> > I have my SB2 set to VU Meters for screensaver. It would be nice for
> > the SB2 to go back to where it was from the screensaver.
>
> You might want to try Player Setting > Plugins > Jump Back On Wake
>
> Richard
That is only an option with 'Now Playing' :(
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I have my SB2 set to VU Meters for screensaver. It would be nice for
the SB2 to go back to where it was from the screensaver.
You might want to try Player Setting > Plugins > Jump Back On Wake
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consciouspnm Wrote:
> Try changing the screen savers to none, or at least away from Now
> Playing
I have my SB2 set to VU Meters for screensaver. It would be nice for
the SB2 to go back to where it was from the screensaver.
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Try changing the screen savers to none, or at least away from Now
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Here's one idea: instead of going "back up", go "right"... if you have
an album in your playlist, go right to a track, then right to the track
details, down to the artist, right to a list of albums... (its easier
than it sounds)
HTH
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Okay any update on the ETA to when we'll be able to Fast Forward Cue
Sheeted Flacs?
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I have found that even an inexpensive headphone amp ($200) from Headroom
sounds considerably better than the headphone output on my SB3. Much
lower noise floor, and better sound as well. FWIW, the Headroom amp
also sounds better than the headphone output on my high end Yamaha
receiver when plugged
BillC Wrote:
>
> Line outs aren't meant to drive a load so they aren't designed to
> provide the power needed for that.
>
misunderstanding! I meant to say that my normal amp (+ loudspeakers)
driven by the line out sounds _way_ better than the HD-650's driven by
the headphone output of the sb2.
Hey guys..thanks for the responses. I was able to get my linux box back
up so I'm good now. Been a long day but I sure am glad to have my SB2s
up and running right again. Never did get the xp machine to work.
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hal9000 Wrote:
> No players show up in the server so I'm not sure how I can ping them.
First question - whats the IP address you are getting on the SB? If its
169... then you don't have a useful address.
If its 192.168 then thats good... ping it from your server by
getting a windows command
hal9000 Wrote:
> Background: I had the slim server software running on a Linux machine
> that decided to die on me yesterday so I switched back to a XP computer
> I was previously using to run the server. None of my Squeezeboxes can
> see the server now.
Sounds familiar. See:
http://bugs.slimd
No players show up in the server so I'm not sure how I can ping them.
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OK, so next thing - can you ping the squeezeboxes from the server?
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the xp firewall is disabled and "yes" the SB2s do get an ip address. I
just uninstalled and reinstalled 6.3.1...it's reading my library right
now...try again to connect once its finished.
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Using 6.2.2 and F/W 48 my SB3 constantly seems to drop off, the music
stops and the display goes blank. When I try to wake it up it says
"waking up slimserver" but often doesnt connect. Sometimes if I ping
the SB3 from the slimserver it all wakes up and works again at the
first ping, but often n
FIXED!
The problem was solved after I emailed support, this was the suggested
fix and it worked -
It sounds like you may be running into a version conflict between your
old and new Slimservers.
Try the following:
* Uninstall Slimserver from the Add/Remove Programs box in Control
Panels
* Dele
In addition to this, the SB3 is more expensive, albeit almost identical
but for casing, as far as I'm aware. Therefore, my only option to
resolve a faulty unit is to have it sent back, then pay more money for
a replacement unit that I don't really like so much in a colour
different to the old one
Sorry for the delay...
After talks direct with Slimdevices technical support, they determined
that my machine was dead and needed replacing/repairing depending on
warranty.
Fortunately, the place I'd purchased from in the UK didn't dispatch my
unit until mid June '05, putting it still within its
I have just experienced the exact same issue:
Left SB2 off while I was on a 2 week business trip (left it unplugged
actually), just went to plug it in and nothing. No screen, no
scrolling, no finding the network, cannot see it as a player in
Slimserver...just a small red light that can be seen th
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RouterStatus
Ceejay
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Just got my SB3 today and had a few difficulties connecting to my
draytek 2600g. However
Upgraded firmware on it, and now works on WPA2 like a charm.
The above issues might have been solved, but thought I'dd add the post
in case (like me) you were trying to work out if it was compatible!
A
It seems that if I use any fimrware after 28 I see this problem! SB2
plays one song then the display just freezes, can't do anything using
remote (other than turn it off) or via web interface.
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