Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-07 Thread verypsb
I did buy a Escient Fireball for around EUR 1700,- Then considered a "pro" solution. I've owned it for 6 months, but I was never really happy with it. Many , many problems... Not convinced by its audio quality either. Then I bought I a Squeezebox Duet (EUR 299,-)(Because I didn't want to buy a exp

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-07 Thread mrfantasy
Don't forget these guys: http://www.olive.us/ And that's the issue, I think--any of these dedicated audio devices are for people who are serious about music. Squeezebox is quite frankly at the bottom of the market for price (although I think sound quality is much better than that), Sonos is not

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-07 Thread LeftToMyOwnDevices
Last I checked (couple weeks ago), WMP doesn't do flac. I didn't investigate further so there may turn out to be a workaround or fix that I am unaware of. -- LeftToMyOwnDevices packin' a SBv2 & a new HP MediaSmart EX487 server (not set up yet.. music files/slimserver on computer, presently) --

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-07 Thread verypsb
Muele;646864 Wrote: > On the negative side, Sonos has a limit on the size of the library > supported. Around 65.000 tracks, depending on how they're tagged. On the Sonos forums I was shocked to read that 65.000 tracks is a 'theoretical' maximum. It can be as low as 40.000 tracks, depending on yo

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread rolski
Or Sooloos by Meridian :- http://www.sooloosbymeridian.com/ -- rolski You might be entitled to your own Opinions, but you're not entitled to your own Facts rolski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.p

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread slate
If money is no object you/we could also go for Bang & Olufsen BeoSound 5 and BeoSound 5 Encore At least they are a company that have had multiroom solutions for decades... if not the first... back when Sean was not even born http://www.bang-olufsen.com/beosound5 http://www.bang-olufsen.com/beosou

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
Kaizen28;647137 Wrote: > Okay, so can someone tell me how the online services find and stream a > song to phenomenally quickly? > > I mean, they decimate my SqueezeServer and it's local! > Probably because they have better hardware than you have and they probably also have more optimized softwa

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread JJZolx
I think that in hi-end audio there will continue to be 'network' music players developed, but most or all of them will be DLNA based. Very few audio companies can afford to develop software on the scale of Squeezebox Server. Some of them may play internet radio or music services, but that's mostl

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Kaizen28
Okay, so can someone tell me how the online services find and stream a song to phenomenally quickly? I mean, they decimate my SqueezeServer and it's local! -- Kaizen28 Kaizen28's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/mem

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Nikhil
maggior;646951 Wrote: > When the scan occurs, where is the data being stored - on the > controller? Since there is no server, I'm thinking it has to be stored > there. What if you have multiple controllers in the form of Andriod, > iOS, or Sonos devices? > The metadata are stored on the zone

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread MediaCenter
At the moment I personally don't think there needs to be a future for streaming devices. Squeezebox is the best and there is nothing out there that competes with it in terms of scalability. The fact is that there is nothing new in audio that will change things drastically in future at least unti

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread oktup
Kaizen28;646749 Wrote: > Hi All > - My taste in music. Try to find "Change your mind" by Gary Numan or > "Thunderbirds are Go" by MC Parker. (I'm not too sure what this says > about me though.) I've got "Thunderbirds are Go" on cassingle, if you want a copy ;) -- oktup ---

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
Muele;646948 Wrote: > > I think the new CEO will be key in "our" fate. And I also think the > ill-fated product called Revue will greatly influence what happens. > The interim CEO was in charge when Logitech purchased Slim Devices: http://www.dailytech.com/Logitech+Buys+Slim+Devices/article4633

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread maggior
Nikhil;646941 Wrote: > Yes they do, but since the only requirement for the server is to have an > SMB share, it is a lot more flexible than SBS. Also the scanning has > always been a gazillion times faster. They are obviously not storing as > much metadata as SBS, but I've always wondered since t

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Muele
erland;646931 Wrote: > > It's hard to know what Logitech is going to do, your guess is as good > as mine. My guess is one of these three: 1. The SB line of products will continue their slow fade-away, until the point of no existence. 2. Logitech will sell off the product line to someone who w

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Nikhil
erland;646882 Wrote: > Don't they do some kind of scanning when you add a SMB folder to the > library ? > Sounds kind of similar to how SBS works. Yes they do, but since the only requirement for the server is to have an SMB share, it is a lot more flexible than SBS. Also the scanning has always

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
Kaizen28;646749 Wrote: > > So, what are the next pretenders to the throne? What's the hardware? > What's the software? > If we are talking big companies, I believe the companies which might release something are: *Apple*: They soon have the iCloud and since before they have the iTunes Music S

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread andynormancx
toby10;646927 Wrote: > if Logitech really pulled the plug on the entire SB concept as I'd guess > that would also mean shutting down support forums for a defunct > product. > If this forum shut down today, someone else would start a new one tomorrow. And if they didn't, I'd start one on the day

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread toby10
andy, Yeah, could be. Software is not my strong point. ;) I'm just basing that on the fact that every PC/Mac OS update creates new issues with SBS for some users. How much of the fix for these update glitches are resolved on the SBS end vs the user making tweaks on his end I dunno. But even use

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread andynormancx
toby10;646903 Wrote: > So if the last SBS version is for Win7, you could not update your SBS > server computer to Win8 and expect it to function. I'm just using Win > as an example, pick your OS. The likelihood of the current version of SBS not working in Win8 is fairly low, Microsoft go to gre

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread toby10
SBS would continue to work as now, but you could not update your OS platform. So if the last SBS version is for Win7, you could not update your SBS server computer to Win8 and expect it to function. I'm just using Win as an example, pick your OS. Internet Radio would work but on a very limited

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread andynormancx
Yes you could use your SB Touch indefinitely if Logitech vanished tomorrow. Only the mysqueezebox.com side of things would stop working. You could still use it for local music playback and internet radio. You would lose the various services like Naptser, Pandora etc Some of those could be restore

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Muele
umapati;646880 Wrote: > Just a silly question being newbie using SQ touch..What will happen if > worst come worst Logitech people shutdown their SQ support..will we > able to play Internet radio OR PC music with the server installed on > our PC or SQ touch (tiny sbs)..? > I am asking this questi

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
bluegaspode;646863 Wrote: > When you point a Sonos to a new SMB folder - is the user aware of some > scanning process as well (i.e. some "please wait until I can show you > all artists") ? > > Without scanning (on I guess a rather slow SMB connection) how would > they be able to fill their menus

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread umapati
Just a silly question being newbie using SQ touch..What will happen if worst come worst Logitech people shutdown their SQ support..will we able to play Internet radio OR PC music with the server installed on our PC or SQ touch (tiny sbs)..? I am asking this question as we have already lost money

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Muele
I think the initial question has been answered pretty good. So I will continue the slightly off topic comparison between Sonos and SB. I think one of the biggest differences is that Sonos is pretty much plug'n'play that just works out of the box for most people. You can hardly say the same about

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread bluegaspode
When you point a Sonos to a new SMB folder - is the user aware of some scanning process as well (i.e. some "please wait until I can show you all artists") ? Without scanning (on I guess a rather slow SMB connection) how would they be able to fill their menus? -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'Sq

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Nikhil
erland;646813 Wrote: > How does the browsing on Sonos work, does it only allow you to browse by > music folder or does it have same possibilities as Squeezebox to browse > "by artists", "by genre", "by year" ? Is it only the sorting > possibilities that differs compared to Squeezebox ? The menus

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
Nikhil;646806 Wrote: > I've been using both platforms ever since, but I find that I use my > SqueezeBoxen a lot more. > How does the browsing on Sonos work, does it only allow you to browse by music folder or does it have same possibilities as Squeezebox to browse "by artists", "by genre", "by y

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-03 Thread Nikhil
erland;646795 Wrote: > Has anyone seen a good feature comparison between Squeezebox and Sonos ? > I think you've covered most of the points. You could do a search on the slimdevices and sonos forums for a comparison I did about 5 years ago; there have obviously been some changes, but the basics

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-03 Thread erland
Kaizen28;646749 Wrote: > > I continue to hear about on-line winning this battle and I have dabbled > with most of these services (Rhapsody / Pandora / Slacker / Spotify) and > while each is interesting none of them solve the following problems: > - My taste in music. Try to find "Change your min

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-03 Thread erland
Kaizen28;646749 Wrote: > there still appear to be only two viable alternatives in this market > (Sonos being the other). > Has anyone seen a good feature comparison between Squeezebox and Sonos ? As far as I've understood (Some of this might be incorrect because I really don't know Sonos): - *W

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-03 Thread maggior
With the instability of Logitech at the moment and the resulting uncertainty of the Squeezebox future, I've been wondering this myself. Take a look at my equipment list in my sig and you'll see that I've invested quite a bit in squeezeboxes. My fear is that the future will be general media str

[slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-03 Thread Kaizen28
Hi All I ask the question in this post as a slightly philosophical one and I'd really appreciate this forum's thoughts on the matter. I have been using my Sueezeboxes for a hair under 6 years now and I love them. In addition, there still appear to be only two viable alternatives in this market (