Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread m_l
Since you already have an iPod check this out: http://www.redwineaudio.com/iMod.html Vinnie modded my Photo iPod man what a difference it made. I use it mainly in the car. Compared to stock it's night and day. It's also so much better than my car CD player [Kenwood excelon with burr brown

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread gowger
Thanks m_l , a couple of surprises in there for me. First one is that they have a wolfson DAC in the later generation ipods! Also I was reminded there of the line out that's available through the proprietary docking socket, which given the previous points might make a difference to sound quality

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread Nonreality
gowger;332705 Wrote: Crikey, fast reponse here! Thanks for the interesting points folks. I don't even know where the original headphones are for the ipod! They were irrelevant. I'm using little sennheiser ones, they kind of hook into your ear. They sound pretty good. I used to use a

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread jeebers
CatBus;332694 Wrote: Let me preface this by saying that you're very unlikely to get SB3-quality audio from a portable. So just let this requirement go, and your choices start looking better. I'm a RockBox user myself, and I personally use an iAudio X5. For what it is, the audio quality

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread earthbased
jeebers;332855 Wrote: I use Rockbox on an old iRiver H140 (upgraded to a 60GB drive), and the sound quality is very good. It has an optical out if that floats your boat. If you're happy without colour screens, don't mind it being a bit on the chucky side etc than you can't go far wrong.

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread earthbased
gowger;332685 Wrote: I figured this would be one forum where people might know and care about sound quality in portable digital music players. I'm wondering if it's possible to get a sound quality as good as a slimplayer from any portable music player, that supports flac? I have an

[slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-26 Thread gowger
I figured this would be one forum where people might know and care about sound quality in portable digital music players. I'm wondering if it's possible to get a sound quality as good as a slimplayer from any portable music player, that supports flac? I have an ipod, I didn't buy it by the way!

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-26 Thread seanadams
It is far more challenging to get good sound quality from a portable device. A good power supply, DAC, and output stage require board space, and packing everything close together makes issues like internal EMI noise much harder to deal with. The designer has much fewer components to choose from

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-26 Thread CatBus
Let me preface this by saying that you're very unlikely to get SB3-quality audio from a portable. So just let this requirement go, and your choices start looking better. I'm a RockBox user myself, and I personally use an iAudio X5. For what it is, the audio quality is quite good. I've also

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-26 Thread gowger
Crikey, fast reponse here! Thanks for the interesting points folks. I don't even know where the original headphones are for the ipod! They were irrelevant. I'm using little sennheiser ones, they kind of hook into your ear. They sound pretty good. I used to use a big pair of sennheisers but

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-26 Thread CatBus
My next suggestion would make the entire Audiophile forum burst into flames, so thanks for posting in the General Discussion forum, for everyone's sake. I think that lack of detail you may be hearing is not from the file format, DAC, EMI, headphone jack, or headphones. It's the wind (and let's

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-26 Thread maggior
seanadams;332691 Wrote: It is far more challenging to get good sound quality from a portable device. A good power supply, DAC, and output stage require board space, and packing everything close together makes issues like internal EMI noise much harder to deal with. The designer has much

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-26 Thread RalphO
This is an interesting thread as I have been thinking along these lines. I spend a lot of time on planes and at airports. This means that I can use my laptop most of the time to generate music. BUt the sound quality from the soundcard is poor. I am considering a headphone amplifier (USB type)

Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-26 Thread gowger
Cool so you mean I could literally give it sox on the dancefloor! :D Didn't know sox could do that kind of stuff actually. Of course the only place I hear the difference with the ipod is plugged into a good system, but it'd be nice to have the SBs quality in a portable way for playing through