Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Daniel Carrera
M. Fioretti wrote: Thanks for the prompt answer, I'll look at the links you provided. One thing to mention, maybe, is that I said Macro, not Add on. I thought you might have been thinking about .odt files, but wasn't sure. In any event, Python probably still comes closer to what you want

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Quoting M. Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Greetings, What if I wanted to implement some OO.o macros with Python? What should I study, do, code, patch, download...? I suggest you to read Robert Vojta's blog and also subscribe to the dev@udk.openoffice.org list where the PyUNO guru -- Joerg is

Re: [discuss] OSS in Brazil

2005-06-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Quoting Fbio Emilio Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Em 05/06/05 08:30 Tony Pursell escreveu: I saw this last week on the BBC News 24 channel. Unfortunately, it didn't show any example screenshots of the OSS they are using. They only managed a screenshot of XP and a shot of the MS HQ in Brazil

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Marco Fioretti
D. Carrera wrote: But this addon would not be embedded in an .odt paragraph (at least, not in the current and near-future OOo releases). Why not, if I may ask? May I ask... is there a reason why a .odt file is needed but an addon won't work for you? (provided that the add-on works

Re: [discuss] OPEN OFFICE BASE

2005-06-07 Thread Ocke Janssen
Hi, or press just F4 in a writer or calc document to open the data source view. Best regards, Ocke dba.openoffice.org Daniel Carrera wrote: Base is a new component in the development release. If you want to try it out you will have to download the beta version. The beta is available from

Re: [discuss] OSS in Brazil

2005-06-07 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4602325.stm :) khirano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Laurent Godard
Hi Marco, Fair question, but you partly answered it yourself. OpenDocument is one thing, OO.o another. Who can assume that the latter *will* be installed wherever the former is used? Especially in 2/4 years, if OpenDocument is to become the truly universal that we keep saying etc etc...

Re: [discuss] OSS in Brazil

2005-06-07 Thread Kazunari Hirano
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/03/29/business/sware.html I read this in March. So they have made it now :) Cheers, khirano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Quoting Laurent Godard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Marco, Fair question, but you partly answered it yourself. OpenDocument is one thing, OO.o another. Who can assume that the latter *will* be installed wherever the former is used? Especially in 2/4 years, if OpenDocument is to become the truly

Re: [discuss] Microsoft's EU Proposal a Blow to Open Source

2005-06-07 Thread Rigel
for all the idealism in the post, I will simply comment that MicroSoft would only benefit themselves. They aren't around to benefit anyone else. Spyglass model or otherwise, they make more profit lieing cheating and stealing then by excercising integrity. My two cents. Rigel On 6/6/05, Gary

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Laurent Godard
Hi, Ok this is a learning opportunity, I thought odt is exactly the same as sxw just a with a different syntaxis. If I have a macro with a window form and I save that document. Does that mean that the code will be in the file or would it be on my computer? Does that means that they are

Re: [discuss] Re: HBS WK: Who will win Microsoft or Linux?

2005-06-07 Thread Alex
OSS has already replaced a number of commercial elements. Firefox for browsing, Thunderbird for email, OpenOffice for (guess what here) in my business, Linux for a file server ( soon the desktop). I don't get your commment. :-) Cheers, Alex Janssen Chuck wrote: Anthony Long wrote:

[discuss] Re: How to standardize Spreadsheet formulas?

2005-06-07 Thread Jörg Wartenberg
Hello Gary, will the formulas be stored as the string that I type in the spreadsheet application, or will the tree structure of the formula be analyzed and stored in a appropriate XML structure with different attributes for operator, operand. Will cell references be parseable and resolveable

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Marco Fioretti
Laurent Godard wrote. IMHO, macros (developepd in StarBasic, python, beanshell, whateverlanguage) do not deal with openDocument at all It only deals with the layer the software (OOo) that render an OpenDocument gives the script through its API. It is implementation specific OpenDocment

Re: [discuss] HBS WK: Who will win Microsoft or Linux?

2005-06-07 Thread Wesley Parish
I would say that in a few years time Microsoft will be heavily indebted for its bare survival, on projects like OpenOffice.org, Mono, wine and ReactOS - because they're F/LOSS projects that do make use of the Win32API and DotNET - Microsoft will wind up being a retailer of a few high-cost

[discuss] Re: OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Enrique
Marco Fioretti wrote: Laurent Godard wrote. IMHO, macros (developepd in StarBasic, python, beanshell, whateverlanguage) do not deal with openDocument at all It only deals with the layer the software (OOo) that render an OpenDocument gives the script through its API. It is implementation

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Daniel Carrera
Marco Fioretti wrote: But this addon would not be embedded in an .odt paragraph (at least, not in the current and near-future OOo releases). Why not, if I may ask? Uhhm... because no such functionality is implemented yet. May I ask... is there a reason why a .odt file is needed but an

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Daniel Carrera
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Ok this is a learning opportunity, I thought odt is exactly the same as sxw just a with a different syntaxis. Not quite, but close ;-) OpenDocument can do a few things that sxw can't do; it's more general and powerful. But they are very close. If I have a macro

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Marco Fioretti
Daniel Carrera wrote: Come to think of it, I don't know how OpenDocument deals with macros. OpenDocument itself shouldn't deal with macros, but this is something that _should_ be standardized, or at least well known. This is the hole I'm trying to fill. I very much doubt that this is

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Marco Fioretti
Enrique wrote: If you go to macros you are talking about an _application_ standardising on that has been much more difficult ever. No, I'm talking of a _language_. You can write Python, Perl or many others and, with some obvious exceptions, those scripts will run on different platforms.

Re: [discuss] GetStorage, name: No Content!

2005-06-07 Thread Carl Shewmaker
Following weekend thunderstorm had problems with lan and accessing internet, since mostly resolved. But when I try to open OpenOffice.org 1.1.4 I get an error message, OpenOffice.org cannot be started due to an error in accessing the OpenOffice .org configuration data. Please contact your system

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Bernd Eilers
Hi there! [...] please let me know what you think of my reply to Daniel, where I talk of a set of python functions etc What I think is that you think about things that in reality are very hughe and complex as being small and simple things. When you say A set of python functions that

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Daniel Carrera
Marco Fioretti wrote: As for macros, the issue is more tricky because a macro is a program that tells the application to do something. Well, not exactly, if I have understood it correctly. A macro is a small program written in some _language_. Uhhhm... what does that have to do with

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Daniel Carrera
Marco Fioretti wrote: Even within single companies like Microsoft or Adobe, different products use different APIs, just because they were created by different people. Bingo! You are comparing closed source apps with open source ones. Different proprietary products *must* invent different

Re: [discuss] HBS WK: Who will win Microsoft or Linux?

2005-06-07 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] You would think that a conservative institution like Harvard would wanna skew its results in Microsoft's favor. But I thought that their analysis was surprisingly not handicapped very much in Microsoft's favor. Perhaps that's the best they

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Daniel Carrera
Marco Fioretti wrote: Think Javascript applets controlling what you enter in a web form, runnable by all *decent* browsers, versus all the possible FireFox extensions that even make coffee for you. OpenDocument already include xforms which covers much (most?) of what people use Javascript

Re: [discuss] HBS WK: Who will win Microsoft or Linux?

2005-06-07 Thread Sam Hiser
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 13:05 -0400, Lars D. Noodn wrote: On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] You would think that a conservative institution like Harvard would wanna skew its results in Microsoft's favor. But I thought that their analysis was surprisingly not handicapped

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Mathias Bauer
Marco Fioretti wrote: Back to my training class example: a portable macro embedded into an .odt file is what you could use to distribute tutorials or any other interactive educational material where there is scarce bandwidth and/or PCs not powerful enough to run OO.o. Ditto for CDs attached

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Mathias Bauer
Daniel Carrera wrote: I very much doubt that this is possible. A macro always uses the OOo API, and this API has no connection with OpenDocument. You can write a Python macro that doesn't use the OOo API, you can even write OOo Basic macros that don't use the API, only the Basic Runtime

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Mathias Bauer
Marco Fioretti wrote: A macro is a small program written in some _language_. It is NOT the code _and_ its interpreter. The latter, yes, is definitely not portable. But a large part of the language is also not portable, the API based part. Of course you can write macros without using this,

Re: [discuss] GetStorage, name: No Content!

2005-06-07 Thread CPHennessy
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 16:33, Carl Shewmaker wrote: Following weekend thunderstorm had problems with lan and accessing internet, since mostly resolved. But when I try to open OpenOffice.org 1.1.4 I get an error message, OpenOffice.org cannot be started due to an error in accessing the

[discuss] Why Microsoft Passed on OpenDoc XML

2005-06-07 Thread Gary Edwards
Stephen O'Grady of Redmonk, has an excellent commentary about MS XML and the OASIS OpenDocument XML. He quotes Erwin Tenhumberg http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/dancer/20050601#microsoft_opens_office_file_formats to make his case. It's short but well worth reading. Especially since the

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Mathias Bauer
Marco Fioretti wrote: Eh eh... This is the same simplification as OpenDocument = OO.o. It would be more exact to say that the *interpreter* of a macro must be written for the application that calls it (OO.o or whatever) and today the only macros found in pre-OpenDocument files (.sxw, .sxc)

Re: [discuss] firewall; browse http:// webpages (skip login masks) then edit html

2005-06-07 Thread Mathias Bauer
daniel heiserer wrote: I want to use html data (http:// URL) which is behind a login mask. With ordinary webpages I could paste an URL derived from mozilla browsing into the openoffice URL. then I could either edit the page and save it on my disk, export it to pdf or copy and paste data

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Mathias Bauer
Daniel Carrera wrote: For once in my life, I will defend Microsoft. Yes, you new employer. :-) I'm sorry Marco, but no. Using different APIs between Word and Front Page does not at all help Microsoft achieve lock-in. And to some extent makes it harder. But the simple fact is that they are

Re: [discuss] OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Daniel Carrera
Mathias Bauer wrote: You can write a Python macro that doesn't use the OOo API, you can even write OOo Basic macros that don't use the API, only the Basic Runtime functions. Of course these macros don't do anything with the document. Okay, the point of a macro is to do something with some

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o Macros with Python interpreter?

2005-06-07 Thread Daniel Carrera
Ian Laurenson wrote: 2. For changing the document, an approach might be, for each call to the common scripting routine: * The file gets saved (temporary file?) * The file location gets passed to the script * The script manipulates the file contents, using common library routines (I am aware of

Re: [discuss] 2.0 Beta version Calc minor problem

2005-06-07 Thread Michael Langenes
Sorry for the delay in responding. This was noticed on the version 2.0 Beta in the Calc program. Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Kupfer OOo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discuss@openoffice.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [discuss] 2.0 Beta

[discuss] DRM in MS Office, was:sharing OOo among lawyers

2005-06-07 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 10:49:23 AM -0400, Lars D. Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: MSO XP on MS-Windows XP SP2 or MSO 2003 (which has DRM baked in) has the capability that every time a document is opened, created, edited, printed, copied, saved, or mailed that action can be tracked.

[discuss] Can not copy styles from a file to a template?

2005-06-07 Thread Julian
Hello discuss, In OOo 2.0, I can not copy a style from my currently openned document to my default template, in template manager. Why? Thanks! Best regards, MRZ2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-06-08 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: