And for clarity I was not accusing you of cookie licking :D Thank you
for taking the initiative with the wiki FAQ!
-Joan
On 2019-05-21 17:30, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> In that connection, I want to make sure people understand I do not want
> to stop other people from editing the Resources or
In that connection, I want to make sure people understand I do not want
to stop other people from editing the Resources or FAQ pages. I will
publish often enough that I can easily merge any changes I've made since
the last publish. I just wanted to get things started ASAP. Think of me
as
I'll admit I mostly link it because of this topic:
https://communitymgt.fandom.com/wiki/Cookie_Licking
which is a real thing that kills communities quickly. Though, their
other anti-pattern pages are good, too.
There's an amazing number of trackers on the web these days. I don't
think we
That seems like a good point to raise with those web resource admins. They
are outside of the ASF's purview?
We can certainly have linking guidelines from D, but in licensing and
other issues, we've observed that a friendly note can go a long ways.
On Sat, May 18, 2019, 22:32 Patricia Shanahan
It doesn't seem to be our concern... Most pages have trackers but ours do
not. If we add disclaimer/warnings to all our links, we need to do that on
PMC resource pointer pages, even sponsor links.
This is a web client problem, and there are resources to deal with it for
those concerned, IMO
On
perhaps we could add an informative note about the trackers? I expect this
is an issue that will pertain to multiple sites so it might be beneficial
if we develop a standard way of dealing with this without having to omit
the resource
On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 19:02, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>
>
>
On 2019/05/13 16:43:11, Joan Touzet wrote:
...
> * Some excellent resources are below, including a final article on why
> "If you don't teach me, how can I learn?" is a tried-and-true
> derailing technique and not an honest request for assistance. I'd
> think that these kinds of
Hi!
A friend of mine did a really good talk on inclusiveness of application
design last year, that may be relevant to this sort of resource. Very
tongue-in-cheek, but talks rather a lot about cultural awareness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8882vQVdI
D Ruth Holloway
On 2019-05-14 12:17 p.m., Patricia Shanahan wrote:
On 5/14/2019 8:18 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 5:05 PM Griselda Cuevas
wrote:
...The word does not have a negative connotation to me since I
translated
it from Spanish
Thanks Gris! Indeed in English,
Hi,
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 6:17 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> ...I am
> also thinking of a complete question and answer on the risk of
> miscommunication, especially in writing unaided by tone of voice, facial
> expressions, and body language. It is further complicated when people
> are using
On 5/14/2019 8:18 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 5:05 PM Griselda Cuevas wrote:
...The word does not have a negative connotation to me since I translated
it from Spanish
It looks like we have multiple examples already where specific
"loaded" words really do not
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 5:05 PM Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> ...The word does not have a negative connotation to me since I translated
> it from Spanish
It looks like we have multiple examples already where specific
"loaded" words really do not mean the same in different cultures.
My suggestion
@Joan - Thanks for asking for clarification, to me preaching means "living
by our ideologies" and helping others understand and support them. The word
does not have a negative connotation to me since I translated it from
Spanish.
Alex, you got my point right, thank you for articulate them well.
I'm definitely not an expert in this area, but want to share some thoughts:
1) If this group wants to be open and transparent then the number of mailing
lists will not matter. Trolls will find any public mailing list.
Well-intentioned newbies will not understand which list to choose from.
; > means creating rules and regulations by which others must conform. This
> > creates tension and defensive behavior. The word "action" will reinforce
> > this assumption.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > ____
> > From: Patric
And patience is fairly difficult when dealing with obvious concern trolls.
That has been especially annoying on members@, board@, etc, where we’re
supposed to assume good faith. However, only one side in the game takes a
loss when doing so in an iterated game. I’d rather not summarize the
As a project, it could use dev@ and user@ like typical projects. User list
for questions, dev list for research and actions. It sort of makes sense.
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 16:23, Joan Touzet wrote:
> On 2019-05-13 16:37, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> > Teaching by preaching is what will earn us
On 2019-05-13 16:37, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> Teaching by preaching is what will earn us respect, credibility and
> authority to speak of this topic.
Gris, can I ask what you mean by "preaching" in this context?
For me this has a very negative connotation and feels out of place in a
secular
; > Ross
> >
> > ________
> > From: Patricia Shanahan
> > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 11:45 AM
> > To: diversity@apache.org
> > Subject: Re: FAQ and education mailing list
> >
> > I am going to start the FAQ discussion, using [FA
"action" will reinforce this assumption.
Ross
From: Patricia Shanahan
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 11:45 AM
To: diversity@apache.org
Subject: Re: FAQ and education mailing list
I am going to start the FAQ discussion, using [FAQ] as tag, without
waiting for
__
> From: Patricia Shanahan
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 11:45 AM
> To: diversity@apache.org
> Subject: Re: FAQ and education mailing list
>
> I am going to start the FAQ discussion, using [FAQ] as tag, without
> waiting for a new list, but
reinforce this
assumption.
Ross
From: Patricia Shanahan
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 11:45 AM
To: diversity@apache.org
Subject: Re: FAQ and education mailing list
I am going to start the FAQ discussion, using [FAQ] as tag, without
waiting for a new list, but will move it i
On 5/13/19 2:37 PM, Naomi Slater wrote:
apologies for the second follow up. two things:
1) it's not really even about bifuricating "the community". it's about the
fact that there are two groups of people here: the people who want to get
D work done, and the people who want to learn about D
Bertrand Delacretaz
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 10:30 AM
To: diversity@apache.org
Subject: Re: FAQ and education mailing list
Hi,
On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 5:19 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote:
...I don't want my FAQ-collection effort to get in the way of getting
things done on diversity@. For th
). and I can't over-emphasize how
>> much we put that at risk if we allow meta discussion to take place here
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 19:50, Ross Gardler
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to not another list, use subject tag "[FAQ]"
>>>
&
:50, Ross Gardler
> wrote:
>
>> +1 to not another list, use subject tag "[FAQ]"
>>
>>
>> From: Bertrand Delacretaz
>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 10:30 AM
>> To: diversity@apache.org
>> Subject: Re: FAQ an
10:30 AM
> To: diversity@apache.org
> Subject: Re: FAQ and education mailing list
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 5:19 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> > ...I don't want my FAQ-collection effort to get in the way of getting
> > things done on diversity@. For that reason,
+1 to not another list, use subject tag "[FAQ]"
From: Bertrand Delacretaz
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 10:30 AM
To: diversity@apache.org
Subject: Re: FAQ and education mailing list
Hi,
On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 5:19 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> ...I
Hi,
On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 5:19 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> ...I don't want my FAQ-collection effort to get in the way of getting
> things done on diversity@. For that reason, I suggest creation of a
> mailing list diversity_education@a.o...
I disagree with Yet Another List as it tends to
Couple of thoughts - sorry for being brief, and really not trying to
bikeshed here:
* We need someone to shepherd this, thank you Patricia for volunteering!
Generally my opinion is that the work of building the content should
fall to those who have learned, not the explainers, who are the
I’m not sure how the technical feature works, but mailing lists can set up
an FAQ. Ezmlm allows you to send a message to diversity-h...@apache.org
which could theoretically be used here.
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 08:18, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> I picked the name without much thought, so it can
I picked the name without much thought, so it can almost certainly be
improved.
On 5/13/2019 6:04 AM, Naomi Slater wrote:
I think this is a great idea
I hope this isn't bikeshedding, but perhaps we should choose a different
name. I say this because I'd like to be able to direct someone to
I think this is a great idea
I hope this isn't bikeshedding, but perhaps we should choose a different
name. I say this because I'd like to be able to direct someone to this
other list without it sounding like I'm telling them they need to "get an
education"
perhaps diversity-meta@ (because it
From my experience with technical newsgroups and mailing lists,
including those intended for experts, a FAQ can be invaluable in dealing
with the questions the long term participants have seen far too often.
Craig Russell has suggested having one for our diversity effort. I am
sure there are
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