. I also find debugging with Eclipse to be quite
good for the odd time that I need to step through code as opposed to
prototyping in iPython.
Gary, move your existing project to some directory outside of
wherever your default workspace is and create a new Django PyDev
project with the same name a
quite
good for the odd time that I need to step through code as opposed to
prototyping in iPython.
Gary, move your existing project to some directory outside of wherever
your default workspace is and create a new Django PyDev project with
the same name as your existing project. Look inside
I use Aptana studio that is an eclipse fork and has pydev include also
django is well supported.
El miércoles, 23 de diciembre de 2015, Gary Roach
escribió:
> To your first question, in one word $money. I would love to use PyCharm
but I am not a commercial developer and can't see pa
different.
I'm sure that this is due to version changes. Bu still. So lets take the
one at
http://www.pydev.org/faq.html#PyDevFAQ-HowdoIimportexistingprojects/sourcesintoPyDev?
since I am importing existing Django projects into PyDev and the project
has never been in Eclipse we try
to step through code as opposed to prototyping
in iPython.
Gary, move your existing project to some directory outside of wherever
your default workspace is and create a new Django PyDev project with the
same name as your existing project. Look inside the directory that got
created and you'll
It no longer works for me. I need to switch to Eclipse with the
> Pydev plugin and am having trouble finding out how to do this. I have
> looked at several howto's. So far I can follow them up to a point and then
> what shows up on the screen starts to depart from what's in th
Hi all;
I have been working on a project for some time using Ninja-IDE.
Unfortunately the development on Ninja has - for all practical purposes
- stopped. It no longer works for me. I need to switch to Eclipse with
the Pydev plugin and am having trouble finding out how to do this. I
have
t you are using.
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Bill Freeman wrote:
> But the code works, right?
>
> This is a PyDev issue, not a Django issue.
>
> (If you can only use code that your IDE understands, that leaves out a lot
> of interesting programs.)
>
>
> On Mon, M
But the code works, right?
This is a PyDev issue, not a Django issue.
(If you can only use code that your IDE understands, that leaves out a lot
of interesting programs.)
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:04 AM, Florian Auer wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> I'am new to django and try to follow t
Hi folks
I'am new to django and try to follow the tutorial to digg into the code.
I am using eclipse 4.3.SR2 with PyDev 3.4.1 and Django 1.7.b2 (because of
the new features)
In Tutorial Part 3
(https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/intro/tutorial03/) the database API
is used to get the l
On Friday, February 14, 2014 12:28:42 PM UTC-4:30, Віталій Лисенко wrote:
>
> I badly speak and write English, but i have question:
>
> 1. describe the main advantages of development in Aptana Studio 3
> Django proects
> 2.write a detailed ìnfstrukcìû of how to lay out a project on github,
>
> I badly speak and write English, but i have question:
1. describe the main advantages of development in Aptana Studio 3
Django proects
2.write a detailed ìnfstrukcìû of how to lay out a project on github, I
have nothing
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I can't find any settings for Django editor in PyDev to possibly adjust
autocompletion for html code. Now when I type there is no any suggestions
for html code, I have to type every single tag. I've made .htmlfile by right
click on project root->New->file and just named file te
; Have you verified that the python interpreter pydev is looking at has
> django installed in it? That might account for it. Also try doing a Project
> > Clean. That being said I have found that pydev's code analysis can be
> pretty janky under a variety circumstances such as s
Have you verified that the python interpreter pydev is looking at has
django installed in it? That might account for it. Also try doing a Project
> Clean. That being said I have found that pydev's code analysis can be
pretty janky under a variety circumstances such as switching branches
oject using the eric4 IDE. I'm just trying to
> transfer everything over to Eclipse+PyDev. I basically just rebuilt the
> whole project from scratch by copying and pasting all the source code. I'm
> pretty sure I set up my python interpreter fine. I'm using django-tr
Pagnutti wrote:
> Hi. I created a django project using the eric4 IDE. I'm just trying to
> transfer everything over to Eclipse+PyDev. I basically just rebuilt the
> whole project from scratch by copying and pasting all the source code. I'm
> pretty sure I set up my pytho
Hi. I created a django project using the eric4 IDE. I'm just trying to
transfer everything over to Eclipse+PyDev. I basically just rebuilt the
whole project from scratch by copying and pasting all the source code. I'm
pretty sure I set up my python interpreter fine. I'm usi
The link:
http://bear330.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/how-to-debug-django-web-application-with-autoreload/
Terça-feira, 12 de Junho de 2012 12:41:35 UTC+1, Dilvane escreveu:
>
> hi everyone.
>
> I am using Aptana, Pydev and Django and this code to debugging and
> autoreload works fin
hi everyone.
I am using Aptana, Pydev and Django and this code to debugging and
autoreload works fine in django 1.3, but not in django1.4.
Does anyone have this problem?
Thank you.
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for example, django have some dynamic mechanism, the code can be
processed wel by django, but pydev will just simply show some error
message,
how to make pydev deal with such dynamics?
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Hi all, I have a django app that works correctly from the console, but
if I try to pass the tests cases from Eclipse+PyDev I got the
following exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\gfuentes\workspace\AG\src\cfx\manage.py", line 19, in
execute_manager(settin
I use pydev to debug my python apps, but I can not break on a
decorated function. Anyone know why and how to fix it?
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(INSTALLED_APPS). Also, it has the manage.py, settings.py, urls.py,
etc
(2) is the "basesite" application. It contains only urls.py. models.py
and media_urls.py at this time (no manage.py - not sure if this is the
problem).
Thank you.
MLG
On Dec 17, 4:51 pm, "Tim Sawyer" wrote
time (no manage.py - not sure if this is the
problem).
Thank you.
MLG
On Dec 17, 4:51 pm, "Tim Sawyer" wrote:
> Here's my instructions for debugging in PyDev, hope that helps:
>
> http://drumcoder.co.uk/blog/2010/apr/21/debugging-django-pydev/
>
> This is done using
Here's my instructions for debugging in PyDev, hope that helps:
http://drumcoder.co.uk/blog/2010/apr/21/debugging-django-pydev/
This is done using the development server, not Apache, from within Eclipse.
Does your app work in the development server?
Tim.
> Hi,
>
> I am new to Dj
Hi,
I am new to Django trying to port a web site from PHP to Django. I use
Apache web server and I have a problem with the debugging. I use
Aptana PyDev as IDE and i want to use the debugger in the toolbar. I
define the workspace in the the debug configuration as well as the
main module
Hi Guys,
Yeah, I've just been creating projects by hand instead of using the
new PyDev Django actions. Fabio said it's because the project you
create has to be added to the Python Path, and it can't add a folder
that is above the path for some reason. Annoying.
Cheers,
Brandon
On
app
> >
> > and so on. However, when I create a new Django project using the PyDev
> > wizard, I get:
> >
> > /my_project
> > /my_project
> > -__init__.py
> > -settings.py
> >
> > Why is that?
> >
> > TIA,
> &
py
> /some_app
>
> and so on. However, when I create a new Django project using the PyDev
> wizard, I get:
>
> /my_project
> /my_project
> -__init__.py
> -settings.py
>
> Why is that?
>
> TIA,
> Brandon
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Hi everyone,
I'm used to organizing my Django projects in one folder for the
project and then sub folders for app modules...
/my_project
-__init__.py
-settings.py
/some_app
and so on. However, when I create a new Django project using the PyDev
wizard, I get:
/my_pr
Hi!
Doug Warren wrote:
> Is there a way to run a django app that's being served on the local
> machine via Apache and mod_wsgi using the integrated debugger in wsgi?
> I did a few google searches but nothing popped out as being the
> obvious solution, other than a suggestion from google to run ap
Is there a way to run a django app that's being served on the local
machine via Apache and mod_wsgi using the integrated debugger in wsgi?
I did a few google searches but nothing popped out as being the
obvious solution, other than a suggestion from google to run apache
httpd -x which I'd take as
gining to set up my work environnement...
> Is there a way to develop using Eclipse/Pydev from my workstation on
> Windows (i know, i know...can't choose ) to create a Linux Django site. ?
> The remote Linux machine is very basic and i can't install any dev
> environne
Hi all !
Just begining to set up my work environnement...
Is there a way to develop using Eclipse/Pydev from my workstation on
Windows (i know, i know...can't choose ) to create a Linux Django site. ?
The remote Linux machine is very basic and i can't install any dev
environnement
Hi all !
Just begining to set up my work environnement...
Is there a way to develop using Eclipse/Pydev from my workstation on
Windows (i know, i know...can't choose ) to create a Linux Django site. ?
The remote Linux machine is very basic and i can't install any dev
environnement
t.com/en/dev/topics/install/#installing-devel...
>
> I configured my interpretor in eclipse by doing this:
> "Now, on to re-configure the pydev interpreter to add those new
> paths... I'm kind of lazy, so, usually I just remove the interpreter
> and add it again, instea
I'm using django from the repositories.
Installed this way:
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/install/#installing-development-version
I configured my interpretor in eclipse by doing this:
"Now, on to re-configure the pydev interpreter to add those new
paths... I'm k
Hello Brian.
Strange, I am also using Eclipse downloaded from eclipse.org. Did you
add any special folders to the PYTHONPATH? Are you using django from
the Ubuntu repositories?
On Dec 7, 6:06 am, Brian McKeever wrote:
> I was having the same trouble you are when I installed eclipse from
> the re
sure why you suggest me Posgresql/PostGIS. I don't have
> any problems with setting up the database, just with setting up Pydev/
> Eclipse correctly.
> Any further suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> Kai
>
>
> On Dec 6, 12:08 am, Info Cascade wrote:
>
>> Turkan,
&g
iam,
>
> I am sorry ... I can't access your provided link. Even after
> registering there, it says "You are not authorized to view this
> workspace.".
> I am also not sure why you suggest me Posgresql/PostGIS. I don't have
> any problems with setting up the databa
Hello Liam,
I am sorry ... I can't access your provided link. Even after
registering there, it says "You are not authorized to view this
workspace.".
I am also not sure why you suggest me Posgresql/PostGIS. I don't have
any problems with setting up the database, just w
Turkan,
Perhaps this will help. I just have done this
(PostGIS/Eclipse/Pydev/Django on Ubuntu 9.10) and it's working great!
After having problems because I had installed Postgres 8.4, I found the
script below, on the net somewhere.
Modify, as appropriate, if you don't need GIS.
Yo
Hello.
I know ... this topic was discussed quite often. But all the hints I
found don't really help to setup Eclipse/Pydev under Ubuntu 9.10 for
Django 1.1 (from the official Ubuntu repositories).
I tried to follow this tutorial (http://solyaris.wordpress.com/
2007/05/16/how-to-djangopyd
> what app the file is for, so I'll see what I'm working on right there
> > in the editor window.
>
> > On Jul 1, 11:41 am, Steve Howell wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 30, 10:42 pm, Rex wrote:
>
> > > > Kind of a petty question:
>
> > > >
n right there
> in the editor window.
>
> On Jul 1, 11:41 am, Steve Howell wrote:
>
> > On Jun 30, 10:42 pm, Rex wrote:
>
> > > Kind of a petty question:
>
> > > I've been using PyDev to do my Django work and find it to be great.
> > > Ho
the editor window.
On Jul 1, 11:41 am, Steve Howell wrote:
> On Jun 30, 10:42 pm, Rex wrote:
>
> > Kind of a petty question:
>
> > I've been using PyDev to do my Django work and find it to be great.
> > However, my only gripe is that it's hard to keep trac
On Jun 30, 10:42 pm, Rex wrote:
> Kind of a petty question:
>
> I've been using PyDev to do my Django work and find it to be great.
> However, my only gripe is that it's hard to keep track of tabs, since
> they display only the (non-qualified) file name, which is a prob
havior you can get used to, albeit it can get annoying at
times.
On Jul 1, 7:42 am, Rex wrote:
> Kind of a petty question:
>
> I've been using PyDev to do my Django work and find it to be great.
> However, my only gripe is that it's hard to keep track of tabs, since
> they
> For those of you who use PyDev, have you found this to be an issue as
> well? Are there any solutions, like a plugin that adds the parent
> directory name to the tab?
Hello,
You get the full name within the eclipse window's name - the one from
the window manager.
I usually
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 11:12:05 Rex wrote:
> I've been using PyDev to do my Django work and find it to be great.
> However, my only gripe is that it's hard to keep track of tabs, since
> they display only the (non-qualified) file name, which is a problem
> given Django
Kind of a petty question:
I've been using PyDev to do my Django work and find it to be great.
However, my only gripe is that it's hard to keep track of tabs, since
they display only the (non-qualified) file name, which is a problem
given Django's very regular naming scheme. So f
Hi All,
I've recently just updated my eclipse to Ganymede and Pydev to 1.3.24.
And ever since then, I've been unable to debug any of my Django
Projects.
I've gone through the process of setting up a debug launch
configuration with the "runserver --noreload" argum
Hello
i am having some "problems" and question with pydev (+extentions) and
django.
Since some hours (hmmm) eclipse points out an error, saying
User.DoesNotExist is not defined, although i have included
django.contrib.auth.modes.User
I can run the code (in debugger) and django does
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Henrik Rediin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm new to Django and Python, but not to web development.
> In my quest to create the best possible development environment, I've
> installed Eclipse, PyDev and PyDev extensions on m
Hi
I'm new to Django and Python, but not to web development.
In my quest to create the best possible development environment, I've
installed Eclipse, PyDev and PyDev extensions on my windows machine.
Everything seems to work, but debugging is not working proberly - or maybe
I'm not
You're off by one. The value added to the PYTHONPATH (note, not
system path) should be:
/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/
That will trigger the auto-complete for django classes. One warning:
auto-completion for Model.objects is broken. PyDev will flag that as
an error -- the author of
hi,
I wasn't able to find some information on this list about auto
completion with eclipse. I managed to get auto completion for my
projects, but not for django stuff. What I want to have for example
is, when I enter models. that i get a list of available models, or
forms. That's it. I have added
;
> Why is that? In SPE Python IDE both examples work just fine...
> Does anyone use pydev and can check if he get proper code completion
> after using 'get_object_or_404'?
>
> Thank you advance!
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> if I get any code completion at all. I don't think any other IDE will
> help you here.
>
> On Oct 14, 8:03 am, lmierzej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > hi,
> > I need advise...
> > i've started using pydev for django development
> &g
So much of models are generated on the fly, I usually count it as luck
if I get any code completion at all. I don't think any other IDE will
help you here.
On Oct 14, 8:03 am, lmierzej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
> I need advise...
> i've started using pydev for dj
hi,
I need advise...
i've started using pydev for django development
but it have some quirks...
for example if i retrieve my model's objects by invoking
get_object_or_404() function
code completion doesn't work on object retrieved with this function...
maybe it is just me or py
poll = get_object_or_404(Poll, pk=poll_id)
now when typing 'poll.' I get no code completion... :-(
Why is that? In SPE Python IDE both examples work just fine...
Does anyone use pydev and can check if he get proper code completion
after using
works for me. you need to use runserver --noreload in your run command
within eclipse. Look here for more info:
http://pydev.blogspot.com/2006/09/configuring-pydev-to-work-with-django.html
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 11:16 +, Rufman wrote:
> hey guys
>
> does anyone have an idea how
You'll need to run the development server using the debug button from
within Eclipse, like you're probably already doing. Be sure to add
the --noreload parameter to your manage.py runserver. command.
Bob
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On 8/29/07, Rufman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> does anyone have an idea how i can set breakpoint while debugging in
> pydev. i got the dev server to work from inside eclipse but breakpoint
> don't seem to work.
You need to configure and run dev server first (F9), then break
hey guys
does anyone have an idea how i can set breakpoint while debugging in
pydev. i got the dev server to work from inside eclipse but breakpoint
don't seem to work.
stephane
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sing the ubuntu packages for eclipse and pydev...(why are they so
>> far behind?)
>
> That's because they take whatever is the latest version of software
> available at a particular point in time during the 6 month development
> cycle. Months prior to a release, the freez
On 8/6/07, Derek Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i was using the ubuntu packages for eclipse and pydev...(why are they so
> far behind?)
That's because they take whatever is the latest version of software
available at a particular point in time during the 6 mon
i was using the ubuntu packages for eclipse and pydev...(why are they so
far behind?) i've upgraded to the latest now, and haven't had a crash
sense. thanks all. :)
Nimrod A. Abing wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What OS and JRE/JDK are you using? I'm on Linux with Ecl
On 8/2/07, eXt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>As I said earlier i don't have (and don't remember) these settings.
> But you're right - it was in eclipse.ini. Now I use Eclipse Europa and
> Java 6 on Kubuntu (32 bit) and I don't have any errors (even null
> references mentioned by Nimrod)
Menard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/31/07, eXt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I currently use Eclipse Europa with PyDev and it works fine. Earlier I
> > worked with Eclipse 3.2 and IIRC I had some problems with lock ups but
> > then I change
that could be connected to
Compiz.
One more thing, did you try updating your Eclipse install? My install
is fully updated, though I never experienced a total lock-up while
using Eclipse.
On 8/1/07, Derek Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hey all,
>
> i'm having a hec
On 7/31/07, eXt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I currently use Eclipse Europa with PyDev and it works fine. Earlier I
> worked with Eclipse 3.2 and IIRC I had some problems with lock ups but
> then I changed Eclipse start parameters and it solved my problem. So
> my advi
I currently use Eclipse Europa with PyDev and it works fine. Earlier I
worked with Eclipse 3.2 and IIRC I had some problems with lock ups but
then I changed Eclipse start parameters and it solved my problem. So
my advice is to upgrade your Eclipse or to read somewhere about
parameters in
I had a lot of trouble with Eclipse on ubuntu. The default JRE was
not Sun's, and Eclipse was not completely stable using it. I
completely removed the other JRE, installed the Sun JRE and the
lockups went away. It's been flawless ever since.
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>
> hey all,
>
> i'm having a heck of a time using pydev (the eclipse python plugin). it
> keeps randomly locking up eclipse (unresponsive UI + 100% CPU), usually
> when i switch tabs. anyone else experiencing th
hey all,
i'm having a heck of a time using pydev (the eclipse python plugin). it
keeps randomly locking up eclipse (unresponsive UI + 100% CPU), usually
when i switch tabs. anyone else experiencing this?
thanks,
derek
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Hi everyone,
I'm trying to use PyDev to debug my Django project. I have followed
the instructions from Fabio:
http://pydev.blogspot.com/2006/09/configuring-pydev-to-work-with-django.html
Running the configuration he describes seems to work. It starts the
development server. However, the deb
HI Fred --
In the future, please don't cross-post to django-users and django-dev;
django-dev is used to discuss the development of Django itself, not to
answer usage questions.
Thanks!
Jacob
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Hi, I'm using Eclipse with pydev for development too. My suggestions for a
project is to create a pydev project without the src folder. later, U have
to tell eclipse in the project properties that your workspace is a source
folder and is an external source folder too.
On 7/11/07, Petra Javor
Hi,
I'm a newbie as well, but have a project I developed using
Eclipse and Pydev. Bascially, I just unchecked the "Create
src folder" option for the Pydev project and all seems OK so far.
Can't help with Apache yet as I just use the Django builtin server
from within Eclips
> I'm a django newbie, just finished the tutorial. I would like to do my
> development under Eclipse. PyDev want to have a "src" folder under the
> project, which does not really fit the django default directory structure.
I'm a Django newbie as well and I&#
I'm using Eclipse 3.2 and latest PyDev.
I'm a django newbie, just finished the tutorial. I would like to do my
development under Eclipse. PyDev want to have a "src" folder under the
project, which does not really fit the django default directory structure.
mysite
As a word of encouragement, I'm using
Eclipse + Aptana + PyDev (+ SubClipse) fine... It was just a case
of setting the right editors for the right file types... Can't
remember exactly which Preference screen that is in... go digging
you'll get there (I did)
You need to
I know this isn't going to be too helpful for you, but at the end of
the day i find its easier just to use any old text editor with django
over any of the IDEs.
I tried pydev for a while... but i spent more time configuring it and
getting annoyed by limitations than getting stuff done.
I
I am a beginner with respect to web development, but not to new to
software development.
I have an eclipse setup with pydev plugin that works well for my
django development.
Have been able to create the poll application and mess around with it.
I then installed Aptana plugin for eclipse
On 16 mai, 08:25, Margaret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Undefined from import:objects
> may you need to config your path.
I guess yes, but how ?
These directories are already in my path: django and my_project.
What else ?
Olive.
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Undefined from import:objects
may you need to config your path.
On 5/16/07, olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> this is a question for Pydev/Django users.
>
> Do you have this problem (see subject) ?
>
> Do you know how to solve it ?
>
> Thx,
>
&g
Hi,
this is a question for Pydev/Django users.
Do you have this problem (see subject) ?
Do you know how to solve it ?
Thx,
Olive.
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t;Karen Tracey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On 3/17/07, Grupo Django <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Hello, does someone know how can I configure eclipse with pydev
> > > installed to debug django apps.
> > > I just need to watch s
Ok, I knew that, but I don't know how to check the value of a var
while running the app.
Thank you anyway.
On 17 mar, 19:04, "Karen Tracey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/17/07, Grupo Django <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello, does someon
On 3/17/07, Grupo Django <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hello, does someone know how can I configure eclipse with pydev
> installed to debug django apps.
> I just need to watch some variables, dictionaries...
> Thank you.
>
I'm not sure what you're asking fo
in your project preferences, add the django directory to your python
path.
also, check out "pydev extras." its an additional plugin with great
bonuses like code-ahead and more
matt
On Mar 17, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Grupo Django wrote:
>
>
> Hello, does someone know
Hello, does someone know how can I configure eclipse with pydev
installed to debug django apps.
I just need to watch some variables, dictionaries...
Thank you.
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You are right Malcolm,
My project's PYTHONPATH was not set and Eclipse global one was pointing
to an old Django version used by another project.
Now all is OK.
THX
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> Fabio,
>
> I'm using Django 0.95 and the console says :
>
> manage.py: error: no such option: --noreload
>
> Do I need a fresh SVN copy ?
>
> Olivier.
Here is a command that works for me:
manage.py runserver 8080 --noreload
Do you happen to forget the "runserver" part? The port is optio
On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 06:07 +, olive wrote:
> Fabio,
>
> I'm using Django 0.95 and the console says :
>
> manage.py: error: no such option: --noreload
>
> Do I need a fresh SVN copy ?
Strange. Russell add the "noreload" option back in July
(http://code.djangoproject.com/changeset/3348 ) an
Fabio,
I'm using Django 0.95 and the console says :
manage.py: error: no such option: --noreload
Do I need a fresh SVN copy ?
Olivier.
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