On July 20, 2022 2:49:47 AM UTC, John Levine wrote:
>It appears that Scott Kitterman said:
>>The PSD definition is probably overlong already:
>>
>>> 3.2.8. Public Suffix Domain (PSD)
>>>
>>>The global Internet Domain Name System (DNS) is documented in
>>>numerous RFCs. It defines a
It appears that Scott Kitterman said:
>The PSD definition is probably overlong already:
>
>> 3.2.8. Public Suffix Domain (PSD)
>>
>>The global Internet Domain Name System (DNS) is documented in
>>numerous RFCs. It defines a tree of names starting with root, ".",
>>immediately below
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 12:46:18 PM EDT Scott Kitterman wrote:
...
> The operational distinction between a PSD and a non-PSD is that subdomains
> of a PSD are different organizations and subdomains of non-PSDs are part of
> the same organization. I believe that's the correct distinction.
Lookin
On June 30, 2022 7:12:42 AM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>On Wed 29/Jun/2022 19:17:05 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, the example is contrived, but since there are no rules limiting
>>> delegation to third parties, we cannot be sure how subdomains are going to
>>> evolve.
>>
>> My
On Wed 29/Jun/2022 19:17:05 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote:
Yes, the example is contrived, but since there are no rules limiting delegation
to third parties, we cannot be sure how subdomains are going to evolve.
My view is that we are in a case that is sufficiently obscure that the answer to
c
On June 29, 2022 5:13:14 PM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>On Wed 29/Jun/2022 12:40:36 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> On June 29, 2022 10:16:00 AM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>>> On Tue 28/Jun/2022 18:46:18 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On June 28, 2022 4:33:15 PM UTC, Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 29/Jun/2022 12:40:36 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On June 29, 2022 10:16:00 AM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
On Tue 28/Jun/2022 18:46:18 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On June 28, 2022 4:33:15 PM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
What can one find continuing the walk after psd=y?
For exam
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
Would you please show an example, realistic or not, where not stopping for
psd=y in step 2 leads to a useful result?
Keeping in mind that this is an arcane corner case that affects perhaps a
few hundred of the 100,000 domains that are likely to pub
On June 29, 2022 10:16:00 AM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>On Tue 28/Jun/2022 18:46:18 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> On June 28, 2022 4:33:15 PM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>>
>>> What can one find continuing the walk after psd=y?
>>>
>>> For example, let's consider an imaginary bank, com.
On Tue 28/Jun/2022 18:46:18 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On June 28, 2022 4:33:15 PM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
What can one find continuing the walk after psd=y?
For example, let's consider an imaginary bank, com.bank, say. They use that
domain as corporate domain, and have a DMARC reco
On Wed 29/Jun/2022 00:23:08 +0200 John R Levine wrote:
What can one find continuing the walk after psd=y?
I have looked at every domain in the PSL that publishes a DMARC record and
other than the three that are in Scott's PSD list, what I found was totally
random. Some looked reasonable, som
What can one find continuing the walk after psd=y?
I have looked at every domain in the PSL that publishes a DMARC record and
other than the three that are in Scott's PSD list, what I found was
totally random. Some looked reasonable, some looked broken. In practice
I think the details are u
On June 28, 2022 4:33:15 PM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>On Mon 27/Jun/2022 15:54:51 +0200 John R Levine wrote:
>>> Please recall what you said in April:
>>>
>>> How about if we say that if the initial domain has psd=y, that's the org
>>> domain and you don't look anywhere else. That i
On Mon 27/Jun/2022 15:54:51 +0200 John R Levine wrote:
Please recall what you said in April:
How about if we say that if the initial domain has psd=y, that's the org
domain and you don't look anywhere else. That is easy to explain and I
don't think we are likely to find anything that b
Please recall what you said in April:
How about if we say that if the initial domain has psd=y, that's the org
domain and you don't look anywhere else. That is easy to explain and I
don't think we are likely to find anything that better matches the
expectations of people who send mai
On Sun 26/Jun/2022 17:42:10 +0200 John Levine wrote:
It appears that Alessandro Vesely said:
One question is what do you do if the DMARC record for your original From:
domain has psd=y. My text says you ignore it since if you're sending mail,
you're not really a PSD.
I disagree. If a PSD se
It appears that Alessandro Vesely said:
>> One question is what do you do if the DMARC record for your original From:
>> domain has psd=y. My text says you ignore it since if you're sending mail,
>> you're not really a PSD.
>I disagree. If a PSD sends messages, e.g. uk.com, it should still se
On Sun 26/Jun/2022 02:42:31 +0200 John R. Levine wrote:
I made a pull requests with a few tweaks to the tree walk so it will get the
right answer even with psd tags at multiple levels.
https://github.com/ietf-wg-dmarc/draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis/pull/47
One question is what do you do if the DMAR
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 8:42:31 PM EDT John R. Levine wrote:
> I made a pull requests with a few tweaks to the tree walk so it will
> get the right answer even with psd tags at multiple levels.
>
> https://github.com/ietf-wg-dmarc/draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis/pull/47
>
> One question is what do y
I made a pull requests with a few tweaks to the tree walk so it will
get the right answer even with psd tags at multiple levels.
https://github.com/ietf-wg-dmarc/draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis/pull/47
One question is what do you do if the DMARC record for your original From:
domain has psd=y. My t
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