Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] IC-91AD programming and software

2010-09-07 Thread J. Moen
- Original Message - From: J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:40 PM Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] IC-91AD programming and software Hi Folks! I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience programming an IC-91AD

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] IC-91AD programming and software

2010-09-07 Thread William Arcand
Another option folks seem not to be mentioning, is free software (still need to buy/make a cable). http://chirp.danplanet.com/ The application works for a small handful of radios (including the 91ad). You could always give that a shot before buying software. YMMV. Bill W1WRA On Sep 7, 2010,

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] IC-91AD programming and software

2010-09-07 Thread John Hays
The 91AD and 80AD have totally different memory configurations. The only Icom software that two radios can share is the 80 and 880. However, you can use the information from here http://k7ve.org/blog/2007/06/csv-load-for-icom-ic-91ad/ to help you move information between systems. (You

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] IC-91AD programming and software

2010-09-07 Thread Jack
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:52 AM Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] IC-91AD programming and software Jim, Jack, Tony and Bill, Thanks for your great suggestions. Do the software packages from ICOM and RT Systems also work with the IC-80AD

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] ID-800H For Sale

2010-09-07 Thread George
Wanting to upgrade, and will sell my ID-800H including manual, cloning softwareCS-D800, cloning cable OPC-478U and standard supplied accessories. $300.00 Buyer pays shipping. My E-mail is w9...@sbcglobal.net for further info.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-06 Thread Nate Duehr
On Sep 3, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Charles Scott wrote: Gary: Well, it's kind of a Tim The Tool Man Taylor tendency I have. I did, however look at the Icom specs for the gateway system and it says 2.4 GHz and 512 MB, so I'm not even an order of magnitude over that, which would be the Tim

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-06 Thread Chris Fowler
On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 03:12 -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: Luckily, the RAID was working, it just never detected the failed disk. A power off/power on reboot cleared that problem and it came right back online with a single disk and one in a failed state in /proc/mdstat -- so that leads to item

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-06 Thread Charles Scott
Nate: Yep, since the system only had 2 drives I have it set for redundancy rather than space (it has an integrated RAID controller). It can therefore loose a drive and continue to run without the software knowing what happened (although I will). The better way to do it would be to throw in 6

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-06 Thread J. Moen
Nate and Charles -- This is a fascinating and educational thread. Lots of interesting and useful info from people with plenty of experience. Thanks for sharing with the rest of us. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: Charles Scott To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread Kent Hufford
Yea and getting a VHF/UHF dual band HT for $105 would sound impossible too. Kent From: wouxun_kg-u...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:wouxun_kg-u...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n8...@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 11:24 AM To: wouxun_kg-u...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread J. Moen
, probably in 2011, but have no hard info. It will be a big deal when we start having choices of brands for D-Star. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: Kent Hufford To: wouxun_kg-u...@yahoogroups.com Cc: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 8:41 AM

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread Donald James
$30 DSTAR CODEX chip ??? Where does that price come from? Donald ~ N2VU A Wouxun D-Star radio for $200 WOW waitress I'll have what he's having HI HI ! Ted N8ZSA In a message dated 9/6/2010 10:20:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, khuff...@atlanticbb.net writes: At the

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread Dave Tipton, W5DMT
are getting a bad rap just because they're new and manufactured in China. From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of stormc...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 11:26 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread Kent Hufford
Well... it does have a FCC acceptance. Junk is your opinion. From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of stormc...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:26 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread Jozef
. *From:* dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *stormc...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, September 06, 2010 12:26 PM *To:* dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR Wouxonpiece of junk and not approved

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread Donald James
Interesting, I didn't know it was that low. -Original Message- From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ted Wrobel Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:29 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread John D. Hays
I have one of the 2m/1.25cm KG-UDV1P models (they come in 2m/1.25m and 2m/70cm) and it works great. There are active Yahoo! Groups to learn more about the radio. I bought mine at Dayton from a US Distributor at http://wouxun.us/ - as pointed out by others, this model is Part 90 (commercial

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread Donald James
reason. Donald ~ N2VU -Original Message- From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Hufford Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:39 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR Well

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread stormcom3
Jozel, You are incorrectany radio that is imported is required to meet FCC certification.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread Jozef
You mean a Ten Tec Orion II can be sold without being FCC type accepted because it is NOT imported. I don't think so. On 9/6/2010 14 31 Hours, stormc...@gmail.com wrote: Jozel, You are incorrectany radio that is imported is required to meet FCC certification. attachment: jozef.vcf

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:33 AM 9/7/2010, you wrote: The KG-UVD1 has been upgraded to the KG-UVD1P CE FCC approved.(FCC ID:WVTWOUXUN04) Looks approved to me. I have two of their analog HT's (2M/70cm and 2M/1 1/4M) and have stunned at how well they work. Good receive, good audio and respectable battery life.

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] IC-91AD programming and software

2010-09-06 Thread J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT
Hi Folks! I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience programming an IC-91AD for D-Star either manually or with software? I have an IC-80AD and it is ok with the freebie ICOM software, but I don't know my options for the IC-91AD and would like to use common software, especially if I

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] IC-91AD programming and software

2010-09-06 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:40 PM 9/7/2010, you wrote: Hi Folks! I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience programming an IC-91AD for D-Star either manually or with software? I have an IC-80AD and it is ok with the freebie ICOM software, but I don't know my options for the IC-91AD and would like to

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] IC-91AD programming and software

2010-09-06 Thread Jack
Gordon, RTSystems has PAY ware for it that I feel works great and if you do ever have a problem there support is second to none. www.rtsystemsinc.com N6UYB Jack E. Foster - Original Message - From: J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

2010-09-05 Thread J. Moen
- Original Message - From: nj902 To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab http://www.arrl.org/news/new-d-star-repeater-now-in-place-in-arrl-laboratory

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

2010-09-05 Thread Dr. Joe Mesh
: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bosshardss Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 2:08 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab That would be the second installation at HQ

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

2010-09-05 Thread Francis Miele
, including references to node adapters, hotspots, etc. I can see they are running D-Star Monitor, but I don't see evidence of DPlus. Am I missing something? Jim - K6JM - Original Message - *From:* nj902 wb0...@arrl.net *To:* dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

2010-09-05 Thread J. Moen
on DVAR, I suspect it will. Glad I was wrong. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: Francis Miele To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab How can you tell

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

2010-09-05 Thread Gary Lindtner
) Mem: 18MB Free, 249MB Total GW_VER=2.1 Gary KB2BSL WG2MSK repeater From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Francis Miele Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 4:41 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

2010-09-05 Thread Bob McCormick W1QA
(top posting fixed) Jim K6JM wrote: I can see they are running D-Star Monitor, but I don't see evidence of DPlus. Am I missing something? Fran W1RJM wrote: How can you tell? http://dsync.dstarusers.org/index.php normally if there is an issue with dplus it will show in the box for

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

2010-09-05 Thread Gary Pearce KN4AQ
At 12:37 PM 9/5/2010, J. Moen wrote: That's good news. I've noticed Steve Ford has written small updates about news in the D-Star world from time to time, including references to node adapters, hotspots, etc. Back in the day, QST would have a regular column devoted to a significant new mode

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

2010-09-05 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
One reason I think Gary is new technologies didn't threaten established technologies like SSB and AM. Packet was a step ahead of RTTY - digi's etc. PSK has a weak signal niche apart from other technologies. Traditional FM and DSTAR is like comparing a typewriter to a word processor and resemble

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

2010-09-05 Thread J. Moen
fun every step of the way. And in 50 years they'll still be using CW. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: Steve Bosshard (NU5D) To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Valahalla, NY

2010-09-04 Thread Alan G
Understand WECA is working on Dstar installation. It would over a very large area.Bob

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-04 Thread Charles Scott
Scott: Yep, fine equipment can do wonderful things (the added dynamic range at 24 bit can be spectacular), but I rarely connect my IC-92AD to my Klipsch Forte II speakers. :) Chuck On 9/2/2010 9:12 PM, ZL1CHM wrote: I work in pro audio and can hear the difference in 16bit and 24bit.

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-04 Thread Dr. Joseph Mesh
at: i...@drsmesh.com ... See us on the web at: W8SS, W8SSS K8LCD all on QRZ.com and at drsmesh.com From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Scott Sent: Saturday

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Valahalla, NY

2010-09-04 Thread Francis Miele
What is this? Freq, callsign ? Fran Signature -- Fran, W1FJM HTML clipboard http://www.miele-family.com/weather On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Alan G n2...@aol.com wrote: Understand WECA is working on Dstar installation. It would over a very large area. Bob

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-03 Thread Jonathan Naylor
Hi Craig This contrained the final (4800 bps/6.25 kHz) air interface to a 2400 bps AMBE perceptual coder with 2/3 convolutional FEC. This left about ~1kilo bit a second of data on the air interface for usage as data (as any user saw fit!). You're a little wrong here. D-Star uses the AMBE

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-03 Thread craigkv5e
and if a voice frame fails correction it is repeated for the next 20 ms until a new decode is attempted. Every 21st data frame has a sync pattern for training. Thanks for the peer review, Craig --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Naylor naylo...@... wrote: Hi Craig This contrained

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-03 Thread Jozef
- K6Jm - Original Message - *From:* Jozef mailto:jo...@metaphoria.org *To:* dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com mailto:dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:44 AM *Subject:* Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate? D-Star, to me, will NEVER

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-03 Thread Charles Scott
Gary: Well, it's kind of a Tim The Tool Man Taylor tendency I have. I did, however look at the Icom specs for the gateway system and it says 2.4 GHz and 512 MB, so I'm not even an order of magnitude over that, which would be the Tim thing to do. I also considered fan-less 12V computer

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Ham Club Demonstration - W5AC B - TAMU Club Station

2010-09-03 Thread bosshardss
Sly N5GQB kapchinsk...@verizon.net and Mark W4ZFH w4...@yahoo.com are planning a demonstration of DSTAR for their local ARC tomorrow, Saturday, starting around 9:30 AM (Central Daylight Time). Route to UR=/W5AC**C or REF 4B to say hi to their club. DX stations welcome - posted by nu5d for

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Ham Club Demonstration - W5AC B - TAMU Club Station

2010-09-03 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
CORRECTION UR=/W5AC**B not C... On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:34 PM, bosshardss bossh...@gmail.com wrote: Sly N5GQB kapchinsk...@verizon.net and Mark W4ZFH w4...@yahoo.com are planning a demonstration of DSTAR for their local ARC tomorrow, Saturday, starting around 9:30 AM (Central Daylight Time).

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Ham Club Demonstration - W5AC B - TAMU Club Station

2010-09-03 Thread Donald James
Where is this . county . state? -Original Message- From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bosshardss Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:35 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Ham Club Demonstration - W5AC B

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Ham Club Demonstration - W5AC B - TAMU Club Station

2010-09-03 Thread Jozef
Donald: From QRZ.COM *W5AC* TEXAS A M UNIVERSITY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB Attn 951420, PO BOX 5688 AGGIELAND STATI College Station, TX 77844-9081 USA On 9/3/2010 15 31 Hours, Donald James wrote: Where is this … county … state? -Original Message- *From:* dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

2010-09-03 Thread nj902
http://www.arrl.org/news/new-d-star-repeater-now-in-place-in-arrl-laboratory

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-03 Thread ZL1CHM
...@yahoo.com To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 3:49 AM Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate? --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Charles Scott csc...@... wrote: For voice communications, 28 bits would be beyond overkill. Even for music, while someone might put up

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Setting ID-80 VFO Step Size using the CS-80 Software

2010-09-03 Thread Mike
Can anybody tell me how to set the VFO step size on the ID-80 using the CS-80 software? Every time I program the radio, it goes back to 15 KHz steps, and I'd like it set for 5 KHz. I've looked all over the place in the software and can't find it. I can set it from the keypad, but I'd like to

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread John Parkins
Hello Jim. Quite agree with all you say. Plus: the D-Star system I have now allows me to sit in the garden with a handheld running 100mW and speaking to someone AND being able to understand them, on the other side of the world. Yes I could fire up HF battle through the QRM, QRN and idiots and do

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread Jozef
D-Star, to me, will NEVER EVER, replace HF/SSB/CW and the thrill and romance of being able to communicate with another human being without any corporate infrastructure in-between. To give that up would be to surrender to those that control the infrastructure. I am not about to that, nor

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread Gerry Creager
hope he has some audio quality choices. In the meantime, I like D-Star audio just fine, since I'm able to understand what everyone is saying. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - *From:* n2gyn mailto:li...@gmx.net *To:* dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread bosshardss
using amateur radio entirely - our own ham net if you will - trouble being you will never get two radio amateurs to agree on a name for it, much less technical parameters. 73 steve --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Jozef jo...@... wrote: D-Star, to me, will NEVER EVER, replace HF/SSB/CW

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread Dr. Joeseph Mesh
, Michigan Always available at: i...@drsmesh.com See us on the Web at:drsmesh.com From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald James Sent: Thursday

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread Donald James
Joe, Elabourate, what are your observations, reflections can be good. Donald ~ N2VU -Original Message- From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Joeseph Mesh Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:25 AM To: dstar_digital

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-Star logo

2010-09-02 Thread Gary
Greetings, I see many websites using the D-Star logo (a star with the word D-Star). Is this logo freely usable to promote D-Star? If so, does anyone have it at 300 dpi? If you do, could you please send it to me? Thanks Gary KB2BSL WG2MSK repeater

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread craigkv5e
. Respectfully, Craig KV5E --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Gerry Creager gerry.crea...@... wrote: If I did, I might have a similar opinion, that we could crank up the sampling and decoding rates and improve the audio. Since I do know something about how things work (and since I've looked

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread Dr. Joeseph Mesh
... See us on the web at: W8SS, W8SSS K8LCD all on QRZ.com and at drsmesh.com From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Parkins Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 2:51 AM To: J. Moen Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread Joel Koltner
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Charles Scott csc...@... wrote: For voice communications, 28 bits would be beyond overkill. Even for music, while someone might put up a point-to-point microwave link or similar that happens to have that level of fidelity, I don't think there's any

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread Joel Koltner
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hardy AF1G har...@... wrote: If the bit rate is faster, is not the signal wider as well? You can trade off bit rate either for bandwidth or the signal-to-noise ratio required for reception, which effectively means range for a given power

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Joel Koltner zapwire-gro...@yahoo.comwrote: --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Charles Scott csc...@... wrote: For voice communications, 28 bits would be beyond overkill. Wet birds never fly at night.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread John Parkins
://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: dstar_digital-dig...@yahoogroups.com dstar_digital

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread John Hays
- for me the test would be with or without hearing aids. steve On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Joel Koltner zapwire-gro...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Charles Scott csc...@... wrote: For voice communications, 28 bits would be beyond overkill. Wet birds never fly

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread Jozef
No where did I imply that you said you would give up HF. :) Differing aspects of amateur radio have their place. That's what makes it, in my opinion, the hobby I never grow tired of. Been pounding brass for almost 47 years now. CW will still be here 47 more years from now. D-Star will most

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread John Hays
- for me the test would be with or without hearing aids. steve On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Joel Koltner zapwire-gro...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Charles Scott csc...@... wrote: For voice communications, 28 bits would be beyond overkill. Wet birds never fly

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread John Hays
On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Dr. Joeseph Mesh wrote: Some respond to the challenge of acquiring the “knowledge required” to accomplish a remarkable feat of great distance and low power on HF... Others like it handed to them effortlessly with fidelity Which side one agrees with is a

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-02 Thread Charles Scott
All: I've been looking for minimum system requirements for a D-Star Gateway / NI-Star computer system. I probably have a few systems here I might be able to use, but would like to make some kind of intelligent selection. I could probably find the specs for CentOS (Redhat) and base my choice

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-02 Thread John Hays
NI-STAR / Gateway requirements are less than those for Icom Gateway. I think Dave (G4ULF) is using a fairly modest 512 Mbytes of memory and an ITX style board (typically 1-1.6 Ghz. processor). You do need Ethernet and probably would be good to have 2.0 USB for a node adapter. John D.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-02 Thread Charles Scott
Gary All: It's funny how these things go. No sooner did I put the question on this list than I realized we have a spare HP DL385 with a dual-core AMD 2.2 GHz processor, 2GB RAM, and 2x72 GB 10K SCSI drives sitting here at work doing nothing. Even has dual supplies and the additional fans

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-02 Thread John Hays
On Sep 2, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Gary wrote: We really haven’t used it for anything else, and have no plans to, with the exception of putting a real SSL cert so users no longer have to deal with the warnings. You know that Robin (AA4RC) has purchased a wildcard for dstargateway.net

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-02 Thread Gary
. What group is for Dplus? Thank You so much! Gary KB2BSL WG2MSK repeater From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Hays Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 5:08 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Gateway / NI-Star System Requirements

2010-09-02 Thread John Hays
On Sep 2, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Gary wrote: John, WOW! That is interesting, and I did not know. So instead of dstar.wg2msk.sidigital.org via DDNS, I can use his, and get a SSL cert? Yup, just ask him for a CNAME for WG2MSK pointing to dstar.wg2msk.sidigital.org and a cert. This

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread n2gyn
for HIFI sound quality, just a more natural sound. I feel like I am talking to a computer instead of a real person. Very impersonal. Thanks to all again for your comments. John --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, n2gyn li...@... wrote

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread John D. Hays
On 9/2/2010 3:30 PM, n2gyn wrote: Well, I thank everyone for their comments and Technical info. I think because of my trained ear it makes it harder to deal with the robot sound. It reminds me of effects processing. One thing that puzzles me is, why some stations sound less robotic then

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-02 Thread J. Moen
of luck, we learn and grow, but coming back to the wonderful old stuff is fun too. Jim - K6Jm - Original Message - From: Jozef To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate? D-Star, to me

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread n2gyn
sounding voice. My telephone sounds better. How could this be achieved if not by bit rate? John --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Ted Wrobel twro...@... wrote: Hi John, Not quite sure what you are thinking, but here is a brief overview

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
If you change the vocoder, doesn't that mean that everyone else will have to as well, or else you will be off by your lonesome ? But I may be wrong...steve n2gyn wrote: Thank you all for you reply and comments. -- Ham Radio Spoken Here !!! EM11ma - South Mountain, Texas

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Ted Wrobel
: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n2gyn Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 14:27 To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate? Thank you all for you reply and comments. Let me make myself clearer. I would like to see the audio

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Gary
to a reflector and do the same with the ID-1 using the same speaker, the fidelity improves big time with the 80 and 880 but the ID-1 still sounds much better (and the RF signal is much weaker). Gary KB2BSL WG2MSK repeater From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Tim Hardy AF1G
a more natural sounding voice. My telephone sounds better. How could this be achieved if not by bit rate? John --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Ted Wrobel twro...@... wrote: Hi John, Not quite sure what you are thinking, but here

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread John Hays
John, D-STAR has a very specific standard for the on air digital voice signal. The signal rate must be 4800 bps (to achieve 6.25khz. bandwidth). Any variance from that rate and you have broken the standard and would be incompatible with D-STAR. The specification also requires the use

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread n2gyn
Yes Gary!!! I believe your 880 maybe 128bit. Look at the specs. John --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Gary g...@... wrote: John, Try plugging a better quality speaker into the radio. I personally find this does wonders to increase fidelity. Icom should be ashamed

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread n2gyn
that feel this way. The bit rate has to be at lest 28bit to starting sounding acceptable. John --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Ted Wrobel twro...@... wrote: There are likely two possible areas for improvement and one where improvement is likely

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:05 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote: John, Try plugging a better quality speaker into the radio. I personally find this does wonders to increase fidelity. Icom should be ashamed of the speakers in the D-Star HT's. A better quality speaker certainly works, as anyone who's listened to a DV Dongle

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread n2gyn
I guess I just can not live with the robotic sound. This is unacceptable in this world of technology. I am trying to find away around this before I dump the whole D-Star thing. John PS: I also have a 91AD --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Tony Langdon vk3...@... wrote: At 05:05 AM 9/2/2010

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Jozef
sound. This is unacceptable in this world of technology. I am trying to find away around this before I dump the whole D-Star thing. John PS: I also have a 91AD --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com, Tony Langdon vk3...@... wrote: At 05:05 AM 9/2/2010

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread John Hays
On Sep 1, 2010, at 3:19 PM, n2gyn wrote: It's NOT a microphone issue. It's the small bit processing. I have been in Pro sound for most of my life. Their is NO WAY to get any quality at 8bit. This is unexceptionable to me! I rather listen to all the QRM and QRN in the world with analog. I

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Charles Scott
John: Actually, it's neither. 8 bits is actually sufficient to reproduce fairly low distortion audio, given a good sample rate, but with limited dynamic range. Since communication quality audio doesn't require much dynamic range, that's not a problem. I don't believe the fact that it's an 8

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:43 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote: I guess I just can not live with the robotic sound. This is unacceptable in this world of technology. I am trying to find away around this before I dump the whole D-Star thing. As stated, fidelity is not the point of D-STAR. It's voice/data communications using

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread John Hays
On Sep 1, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Tony Langdon wrote: As stated, fidelity is not the point of D-STAR. It's voice/data communications using the minimum feasible bandwidth. 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com And for the HF DV experimenter it looks like DVSI now has a chip to do 1200 or

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
AMEN! It's COMMUNICATIONS QUALITY audio. not high fidelity! 73, Mike WM4B From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Langdon Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:54 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:16 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote: And for the HF DV experimenter it looks like DVSI now has a chip to do 1200 or 1800 bps (no FEC) AMBE. Hmm, maybe room for a HF dongle for experimenters. :) Of course, a pure software vocoder has its advantages, but there's room to try different approaches.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread J. Moen
- Original Message - From: n2gyn To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 3:19 PM Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate? It's NOT a microphone issue. It's the small bit processing. I have been in Pro sound for most of my life. Their is NO WAY

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Hotspot Software reporting Adapter Status = 'Disabled'

2010-08-31 Thread Mike
I've got a new NQSMHS (built from kit) that I can't get the DVAR Hotspot software (v 2.57) to recognize. It reports the adapter status as 'Disabled'. I've tried on both my Vista 32-Bit and XP computers. All else with the adapter seems normal. NAWinCFG sees it just fine and RF Read and

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-Star HotSpot Information Needed

2010-08-31 Thread ka3fzo
Thanks for taking the time to read this post. We are looking to establish a D-Star HotSpot at our local EOC. I am looking for information regarding what we wil need to do so. Our county wants to utilize the D-Star system, but due to financial issues we are limited to how we must

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-Star HotSpot Information Needed

2010-08-31 Thread J. Moen
gotten that radio to work with the hotspot board. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: ka3fzo To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:36 AM Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-Star HotSpot Information Needed Thanks for taking the time to read this post

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Bit Rate?

2010-08-31 Thread n2gyn
Most radios are sent to 8bit. Can all radio's bit rate be changed? I believe it is the LOW bit rate that lowers the quality of d-star's audio. Is there a sub menu in the radio's. Also can the repeater's rate be change to a higher rate? John

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Bit Rate?

2010-08-31 Thread Ted Wrobel
to other DStar systems. Note that the data rate over the internet can be much higher, but the chain from repeater controller to / from the radio is fixed for DV comms at 9600. 73 Ted W1GRI _ From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n2gyn Sent

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] NQSMHS with TM-D710A

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Anybody using the above combination? I got my NQSMHS build over the weekend and tried getting things running today but cannot get rid of the R2D2 on Echotest. I've been the full range of adjustment on the data terminal input and output levels via the MCP-2A software and have carefully adjusted

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] NQSMHS with TM-D710A

2010-08-30 Thread Donald Jacob
Mike, you might try putting the 710 in packet mode to make sure that it is seeing a signal on the 9600 baud port. Don WB5EKU On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Mike Besemer (WM4B) mwbese...@cox.netwrote: Anybody using the above combination? I got my NQSMHS build over the weekend and tried

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] NQSMHS with TM-D710A

2010-08-30 Thread J. Moen
. On the D700A, I ended up placing a switch between my outside antenna and a small indoor antenna. When indoors, I use that, and no more R2D2. Wish I could be of more help. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: gmsk_dv_n...@yahoogroups.com ; dstar_digital

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