On 6/2/2010 3:41 AM, J. Moen wrote:
Nate WY0X wrote: The guy asked if you could run D-STAR Gateways on
wimpy computers.
No, N9HSM's question was simply I got a question How [far] can you be
be from the Dstar repeater before you drop out? or How close the Dstar
has to be before you can get
On 6/2/2010 5:39 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote:
You've been a part of this same D-STAR Signal Coverage conversation
many times and the answer is always the same, time after time. And you
don't seem to see where even classic BER calculations have significant
issues defining the quality of the signal
On Jun 3, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Nate Duehr wrote:
On 6/2/2010 5:39 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote:
You’ve been a part of this same D-STAR Signal Coverage conversation
many times and the answer is always the same, time after time. And
you don’t seem to see where even classic BER calculations have
On 6/3/2010 5:52 PM, John Hays wrote:
The company claims 20% BER to loss of usable signal on AMBE chips.
Yeah, they couched it. (I've seen that spec too.)
That's not the drop-out point, that's usable... you can't build a
scale off of that as a known starting point. Usable could mean a lot
On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:17 PM, n9aa wrote:
I'm going to assume that by engaging in all of this mental masturbation and
ignoring the original poster's question, you're all trying to make sure he
loses all interest in D-Star, correct?
Sure, go ahead. You have the answer? Losing all interest
into that
repeater.
Jim - K6JM
- Original Message -
From: Nate Duehr
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar
snip
The guy asked if you could run D-STAR Gateways on wimpy computers. The answer
At 07:41 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote:
In business, the decision maker frequently cannot get quality
engineering data to help make a decision, and is forced to figure
out what experts feel is the answer based in their own
experience. We are kind of in that postion here. I don't think
we'll steer
@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar
On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:17 PM, n9aa wrote:
Sure, go ahead. You have the answer? Losing all interest in D-STAR over
discussion of a question he brought up probably isn't going to happen.
This N9HSM Tom Ive have turn my beam to the Ohio Dstar I can hear it know
problems. You all have help me out alot I want to think you all on this group
so much for the help 73's keep up the good work Tom N9HSM
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Tony Langdon vk3...@... wrote:
At 07:41 PM
I just KNEW there'd be a skeptic in the crowd!
Oh, I'm not a skeptic, but you are comparing apples to oranges completely
sujectively. You are not even weighing them or measuring their volume, but
even if you did, the key variable is taste, and that is pretty subjective.
Your report of 10
On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:28 AM, john_ke5c wrote:
My sujective assessment from experience is that comparable analog and
digital systems perform about the same. I can objectively compare analog
systems using SINAD, and I can objectively compare digital systems using BER.
There is just no
We did some comparison tests with comparable repeaters on comparable
antennas on the same site, in Dallas, TX, a couple of years ago.
Consistently, we were able to communicate via DStar about 10% farther
than via analog. This was consistent in all tested directions, and for a
variety of mobile
john_ke5c wrote:
Of course, it's infrequent that you have two very comparable systems to
compare to, but we were lucky. As with most mobile radio applications,
while you can model performance, the real test is in how it performs
when you're out there. Note that the 10% value is
The is no single answer to your question, Tom. As with any analog repeater,
your ability to get into the D=Star repeater is going to depend on your
antenna, how high it is, and how much power you're running. It's certainly
possible to hit a repeater from the distances you're talking about, but
, May 30, 2010 8:34 PM
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar
The is no single answer to your question, Tom. As with any analog repeater,
your ability to get into the D=Star repeater is going to depend on your
antenna, how high it is, and how much power you're running. It's certainly
possible
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH
On 5/24/2010 11:19 AM, J. Moen wrote:
Yes, the simplest part of setting up a new D-STAR compatible repeater is
the D-STAR part. The real work
On 5/25/2010 12:53 AM, J. Moen wrote:
Thanks for making my point -- the D-STAR part is the easy part, and if
you go non-ICOM, it's nearly free. The hard, and expensive work, is
the traditional repeater part of it, which you have outlined very well.
Yeah, I was just supporting your point with
The HotSpot approach means you don't have to wait for a big deal repeater to
come online to enjoy D-STAR. I use a 91AD HT around the house, and an ID-800H
I bought used for mobile work. It doesn't have to cost a lot of money to
enjoy D-STAR.
I am involved with four or five (depending on
.
Jim - K6JM
- Original Message -
From: john_ke5c
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:12 AM
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH
The HotSpot approach means you don't have to wait for a big deal repeater
to come online to enjoy D
On 5/24/2010 11:19 AM, J. Moen wrote:
Yes, the simplest part of setting up a new D-STAR compatible repeater
is the D-STAR part. The real work is the traditional stuff -- site,
analog radios, duplexers, antennas etc.
That would be ANY repeater, actually. ;-)
Why do hams think the radio part
, and an ID-800H I
bought used for mobile work. It doesn't have to cost a lot of money to enjoy
D-STAR.
Jim - K6JM
- Original Message -
From: Mike Besemer (WM4B)
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:11 PM
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer
For a supposedly technical hobby, we are very technically conservative, which
isn't a good thing.
I gave a talk at a local radio club about my sound card D-Star repeater
software, most were interested, but a number raised specious objections. No
wonder the hobby is in decline!
I wonder
All I sometimes get when I do talks about it, is What's the point?! Why
bother?
After a few extra questions and further exploration into their supposed
disbelief, it usually comes out at the end; after all, its too
expensive...
I think jealousy is a prevailing trait with many, that is,
The pace of change in the world is incredible and it continues to
increase. For a lot of people, especially those who have been able to
live much of their lives in a relatively stable niche, complacency adds
stability. D-Star is very different and for that reason alone makes many
people
From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Barry
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 4:33 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH
All I sometimes get when I do talks about it, is What's the point?! Why
, Ed
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:33 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH
What I can say is that I spent the entire weekend at Dayton talking to
people about D-STAR. There were a lot of people who had interest in it. Im
pretty sure
: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:41 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH
FWIW, I'm still a bit skeptical, but I did lay down my money
money
is going!
73,
Mike
WM4B
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From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Woodrick, Ed
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 9:09 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH
Dont forget
Hi Ron and welcome to dstar. The obvious is internet connection provides
networking between repeaters. There is much more. If I program W2CB into the
UR field on my radio, the network will route my call to the last repeater you
keyed. Kinda like a primative follow me roaming feature. When
Please excuse the W2CB - I misread W2CTX...sri.
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, bosshardss bossh...@... wrote:
Hi Ron and welcome to dstar.
It is not the loss, it's the isolation we are all after. Some typical RG58
cables have less than 80 dB, while the solid shield cables can exceed 120
dB. Even with the 80 dB stuff, that's 160 dB total (cable-to-cable) so it
should be fine, unless the transmitter has a problem.
I measured two
It is not the loss, it's the isolation we are all after. Some typical RG58
cables have less than 80 dB, while the solid shield cables can exceed 120
dB. Even with the 80 dB stuff, that's 160 dB total (cable-to-cable) so it
should be fine, unless the transmitter has a problem.
These short
Of john_ke5c
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 12:09 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . .
A few months ago, the same digital repeater was setup in Mt. Lukens in Los
Angeles and in the same setup where an analog repeater used to be. Right
Very simple test:
A very quick and easy test for desense.
2 people and a GOOD dummy load needed. (type NM connection that will attach
directly to the bulkhead fitting on the back of the repeater).
Have one person with dummy load in hand at the repeater with a talkie. The
second in the field
AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . .
A few months ago, the same digital repeater was setup in Mt. Lukens in Los
Angeles and in the same setup where an analog repeater used to be. Right away
we noticed the difference in receive
Does it receive better in low power than it does in full power? If so, the
problem is desense. What is your antenna/duplexer situation?
Ernie
W6KAP
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Lot k6...@... wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Our club bought a Dstar Repeater (IDRP4000v IDRP2C).
For some
Hi Lot,
The issue with the Icom UHF repeater hardware is that the receiver has poor
selectivity (immunity to off frequency and out of band transmissions) and poor
sensitivity.
You need a lot of RF separation between the transmitter and receiver ports...
100dB or better is what you need. You
A few months ago, the same digital repeater was setup in Mt. Lukens in Los
Angeles and in the same setup where an analog repeater used to be. Right away
we noticed the difference in receive sensitivity. We made some test at a low
level location and that is where we realized that even in
.
http://www.polkemcomm.org http://www.polkemcomm.org/
BB8330 PIN: 30965B58
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From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of aj4g
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:44 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar
I have been trying to get Charlie Culver at Skyline to put DSTAR in for some
time now. No luck.
Some folks use 145.670 simplex for dstar.
You are now registered, courtesy of the K5CTX system in Temple. This will
enable you to use a DVDongle to access the system via internet. Also once
Nate,
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 09:39 -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:
We (AF6IM and KF6WRW) have been keeping our toggles stowed until we
get to about 3000 ft.
If you pulled at 3000' MSL here, well... you'd be dead/underground!
1. Unlike pilots, skydivers always use AGL, not MSL. When we are headed
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Brian Muryve7...@gmail.com wrote:
As I said, I don't have a DSTAR handheld :-(. I could try to borrow one
if I can find someone nearby who has one. Maybe I shouldn't tell them
what I plan on doing with it! ;-)
Just make sure you have it nicely secured... On my
Brian and Nate,
Wouldn't that be something if we could arrange a jumper-plane-jumper
DSTAR
QSO? I am up for trying it some weekend soon.
We (AF6IM and KF6WRW) have been keeping our toggles stowed until we
get to about 3000 ft. Gives us slower descent for more comm time and
slower forward
Just so you know,
A belgian Ham Radio op was doing HF from a plane somewhere, and his license
got revoked and a fine to be payed because its illigal to do ham radio 'in
the air' (in belgium).
73s
Robbie ON4SAX
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:11 PM, boeing...@gmail.com wrote:
Brian and Nate,
On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:11 AM, boeing...@gmail.com wrote:
Brian and Nate,
Wouldn't that be something if we could arrange a jumper-plane-jumper
DSTAR
QSO? I am up for trying it some weekend soon.
That would be interesting!
We (AF6IM and KF6WRW) have been keeping our toggles stowed until we
Hello, we worked Saturday and Sunday from IQ3DQ without reflector, hot spots
and dongles.
Only 50 made the connections
73 Maurizio
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bosshard bossh...@... wrote:
I spoke with Steve G4UUI on the Ashford UK repeater this morning. GB7DS A
will be
John,
Very cool utilization of the Multicast function.
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, john_ke5c k...@... wrote:
I found a use for G2 multicast groups! Contest participation is a bit
sparse, probably because DStar is still a bit sparse, but I tired of calling
JA repeater modules one
Today, 05:22 -0400, Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM wrote:
W5HDR Admin,
BAD USER INFO ON K5JBE
How bad, one might ask. Here it is:
k5jbe1- IN A 10.105.56.193
One of those cases with a terminal entry with a PC name terminated with an
hyphen.
'73 - Pierre
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Pierre
On Jun 10, 2009, at 9:20 PM, George Henry wrote:
A repeater is an amateur STATION. Therefore, the only amateur
STATIONS that
can legally ID a repeater are the repeater itself, or the repeater
licensee.
So while you could legally ID for your own repeater, there is
nothing in the
10, 2009 1:23 AM
To: dstar-gate...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com; rtp...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: [DStar-Gateway] The great red herring (US
Primarily)
John D. Hays wrote:
This message is not advocating the interconnection, it is merely to
point
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Jay Maynard jmayn...@... wrote:
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 05:13:11PM -, Steve wrote:
As pointed out the real hindrance is the 6.25 KHz narrow bandwidth design
of D-Star. A dirty shame since we have tons of bandspace, so I really
don't see the need
Tell that to anyone trying to coordinate a 2 meter (and often 70cm)
repeater pair around a metropolitan area. The whole repeater
coordination policies need to be revisited, but that's a different thread.
It's also a disappointment when you can't get a Tesla Roadster
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 06:00:11PM -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 05:13:11PM -, Steve, KB9MWR, wrote:
As pointed out the real hindrance is the 6.25 KHz narrow bandwidth design
of D-Star. A dirty shame since we have tons of bandspace, so I really
don't see the need
At 03:13 AM 5/10/2009, you wrote:
As pointed out the real hindrance is the 6.25 KHz narrow bandwidth
design of D-Star. A dirty shame since we have tons of bandspace,
so I really don't see the need for narrow band in amateur radio.
Hmm, try looking for a simplex 2m frequency down here and say
well into 1200 bps.
Ed WA4YIH
From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:13 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DStar uses
I tend to go along with Ken's thinking. The overall D-Star
Fixed.
J
From: dstar-gate...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar-gate...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Pierre Thibaudeau
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:14 AM
To: dstar-gate...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DStar-Gateway] IMPROPER PCNAME!! id800-
Today, 06:19 -0400, Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM wrote:
Someone has gone in and left a hyphen on their
pcname. Please check and see if it is on your gateway...
dstar.local.db:7656: id800-.dstar.local: bad owner name (check-names)
I do not have the time to track down what
is set to [DSTAR_DIGITAL] - Sorry about any trouble it caused. The tag
on the German site is [D-STAR] and the WIA tag is [Dstar] - close, but
not the same as [DSTAR] .
On the ID800 cable, as said in my earlier reply, the programming cable
has a level shifter that converts RS232 to TTL and
according to the US NO the dates for Daylight Savings time is:
a.. In 2008, daylight time begins on March 9 and ends on November 2.
a.. Ron Brown, AB5WF
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Steve,
I think that you are confusing the date with the election.
73
Don WB5EKU
[The classroom demonstration will be Tuesday, November 4 at 9:15 AM. CST. I
mentioned in my correction daylight savings time changes back this weekend.
Ron mentioned daylight savings time ends November 2nd, (this
Steve,
Sorry.. it just looked like you said that DST ended on Tues, Nov 4..
Sorry for mis-reading it.
73
Don WB5EKU
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Donald Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve,
I think that you are confusing the date with the election.
73
Don WB5EKU
[The classroom
I can try to update the drivers. I am running XP pro SP2
Fran
http://weather.miele-family.com/
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From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of John
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:26 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dstar_digital] Re
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Fran Miele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are there any instruction for setting it up. I tried it with my
91Ad but no
What's the make and model of the webcam ? I haven't found any so far
that didnt work so I'd be interested in this. The software simply
calls the
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dstar_digital] Re: DStar TV ?
--- In dstar_digital@ mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Fran Miele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are there any instruction for setting it up. I tried it with my
91Ad but no
What's the make and model
Sorry guy's
i did not fellow all the discussion here,
what is DstarTv???
http://www.emoticonesgratuites.ca/?icid=EMFRCA120
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thanks mike
qsy there!
gervais
http://www.emoticonesgratuites.ca/?icid=EMFRCA120
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