Re: [Elecraft] Band button

2008-07-07 Thread David Yarnes
Isn't there some authorized amateur activity in the 600 meter band? I saw someone post that they had a beacon going aroun 500 khz. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, July 06,

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Ed Muns wrote: What DSP bandwidths were you using and where did you have your crystal filters engaging? There is only a 65 Hz bandwidth difference between the 400 and 250 crystal filters and both are wider than the what is needed for 170 Hz shift RTTY. The crystal filter function is to

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Bill W4ZV
David Woolley (E.L) wrote: Ed Muns wrote: What DSP bandwidths were you using and where did you have your crystal filters engaging? There is only a 65 Hz bandwidth difference between the 400 and 250 crystal filters and both are wider than the what is needed for 170 Hz shift RTTY. The

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Bill W4ZV
FYI, the DSP filter in the K3 follows the following formula for shape factor according to Lyle KK7P: Shape Factor = (6 dB BW) / (6 dB BW + 300 Hz) Oops...no coffee yet. Make that Shape Factor = (6 dB BW + 300 Hz) / (6 dB BW) 73, Bill -- View this message in context:

[Elecraft] k3 fan noise

2008-07-07 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
I agree with Bill. Every instance of fan noise that I recall being posted here ended up being assembly error (or more properly, oversight). And since you say that they CAN be quieted down with adjustment, I would suggestion checking for a wire touching the blades when they spin. Loosening the

Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread d.cutter
Bill I can't recall seeing that figure published before; where would I look for that figure? David G3UNA snip The purpose of the roofing filter is mainly to reduce strong (approximately S9+30) signals from over-driving the ADC in the DSP. If they do that, then the DSP determines the

Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 Install...choices....

2008-07-07 Thread ny9h
never mindthe bnc is it . sri for bandwidth, bill now that I received my katiegram for the second receiverI have read the instructions. Looks like I need to make a decision whether to hook the 2nd rcvr aux in to the unused ( non- transmitting) KAT3 ANT port... or the ext

Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Bill W4ZV
David Cutter wrote: Bill I can't recall seeing that figure published before; where would I look for that figure? David G3UNA snip The purpose of the roofing filter is mainly to reduce strong (approximately S9+30) signals from over-driving the ADC in the DSP. If they do

[Elecraft] What is the R91 mod?

2008-07-07 Thread KM0O
I suspect I might know about this under another name, but I want to make sure that I haven't missed something important. Just what is the R91 mod? My K3 is #444. Thanks, Tony, KM0O -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-is-the-%22R91-mod%22--tp18316001p18316001.html Sent

Re: [Elecraft] What is the R91 mod?

2008-07-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tony, R91 is *not* a mod by itself. You did not miss anything at all. When installing the KRX3, the builder is asked to meaure the value of R91 and add a parallel resistor if it is 100 ohms. If it is 22 ohms, do nothing. If you wish to check and modify R91 to 22 ohms in your K3 without

[Elecraft] K3 - Katiegram birth of #1198

2008-07-07 Thread Graham Kimbell (G3TCT)
I'm happy to report birth of K3 #1198:- Ordered 17 Feb 08 Katiegram 29 June Shipped 2 July Back-ordered KRX3, KDVR3, 6k filter Received safely (in rural Somerset) 4 July!! UPS were really quick! Built apart from 100W PA 6 July Thanks to all at Elecraft including Wayne, Eric, Katie, Madelyn and

Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread d.cutter
Thanks Bill, it was the first 2 that were of interest. David G3UNA David Cutter wrote: Bill I can't recall seeing that figure published before; where would I look for that figure? David G3UNA snip The purpose of the roofing filter is mainly to reduce strong

[Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-07-07 Thread S Sacco
OK, now that I'm slowly getting my station rebuild to the point where I'm operating my K3 on a regular basis, I'm noticing that the AGC seems to be kind of sub-optimal. There are large differences in audio volume when receiving different strength signals. I have not been directly comparing the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-07-07 Thread Bob Cunnings
Have you tried adjusting the CONFIG:AGC SLP parameter? I've set mine to the maximum value, 15, for flattest AGC slope. Bob NW8L On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:13 AM, S Sacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, now that I'm slowly getting my station rebuild to the point where I'm operating my K3 on a

RE: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-07-07 Thread Bud Semon N7CW
I have the CONFIG: AGC SLP parameter set to 15 also and I think it is not aggressive enough - that is, the volume difference is too large between weak and strong signals. 73, Bud N7CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Cunnings Sent:

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Lyle Johnson
2. 100 dB dynamic range of DSP. I'm not going to search for the exact source but this is often quoted by manufacturers as the practical limit of current DSPs using 24-bit ADCs. Theoretically it should be higher based only on 24-bit ADC resolution but practically it's limited by other factors.

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-07-07 Thread Jim Cox
I agree, I also have mine set at 15 and there does seem to be a large difference in the audio level of weak and loud stations... Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: Bud Semon N7CW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: RE:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-07-07 Thread Lyle Johnson
... There are large differences in audio volume when receiving different strength signals. There are two AGC parameters that should help. 1) AGC THR This sets the signal strength which must occur before AGC is activated. It is defaulted to the several microvolts range. If you are

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Björn Mohr
Bill, I find the diversity option interesting and I imagine that it will be a very useful feature on topband. In what other situations do you find it useful? I have never tried diversity myself, what would the difference be between a filter matched to the specs provided Elecraft and a set of

[Elecraft] 600 Meter Operations

2008-07-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Isn't there some authorized amateur activity in the 600 meter band? I saw someone post that they had a beacon going aroun 500 khz. Dave W7AQK The FCC issues special experimental licenses for various reasons. These are not Amateur

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-07-07 Thread Lyle Johnson
CONFIG:AGC THR 001 (default is 5) Sorry, I just checked and I see 002 is the lowest allowed value in the present firmware release. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-07-07 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:55:58 -0500, Jim Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, I also have mine set at 15 and there does seem to be a large difference in the audio level of weak and loud stations... Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: Bud Semon N7CW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-07-07 Thread Lyle Johnson
I have the CONFIG: AGC SLP parameter set to 15 also and I think it is not aggressive enough - that is, the volume difference is too large between weak and strong signals. I just measured it. From a signal at the AGC threshold (-104 dBm if AGC THR is set to 005) to a signal 100 dB stronger,

[Elecraft] K3 audio problem or operator problem?

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Nichols
_ From: Gary Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:15 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: audio problems? Hello all, CW is working fine with K3 #716 but trying SSB there seems to be a problem possibly related to the headset/boom

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Bill W5WVO
With regard to diversity reception on bands other than 160m -- When 6-meter sporadic-E is very intense and present over a fairly large area between two stations, a phenomenon occurs where the signal will come in alternately at a higher angle and at a lower angle, fading back and forth, on

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-07-07 Thread S Sacco
Thanks, Lyle - I've made those changes, and will see how they work. Appreciate the help!! 73, Steve NN4X On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... There are large differences in audio volume when receiving different strength signals. There are two AGC

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Bill W4ZV
Björn Mohr SM0MDG wrote: I find the diversity option interesting and I imagine that it will be a very useful feature on topband. In what other situations do you find it useful? I have never tried diversity myself, what would the difference be between a filter matched to the specs

Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio problem or operator problem?

2008-07-07 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:41:03 -0400, Gary Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Hello all, CW is working fine with K3 #716 but trying SSB there seems to be a problem possibly related to the headset/boom mic I had been using with other radios. If I turn the monitor up enough to hear anything in

[Elecraft] [K3] First-time VOX test: It works!

2008-07-07 Thread Bill W5WVO
To those of you SSB ops who won't use VOX because every implementation of it you've ever used basically sucked -- Try the K3! I just set it up using my Heil Pro-Set for the first time, and it works just as you think it should. Very smooth, no dropped syllables, no falsing -- amazing. It feels

RE: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-07-07 Thread Darwin, Keith
Steve, please report back with the results of your change. I have my AGC slope set to 3 or 4 IIRC. Anything more than that and the rig just sounds flat with noise signals all being the same level, just like all the rigs that I've owned before. - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - -Original

[Elecraft] K3 AGC - making it like the K2?

2008-07-07 Thread Darwin, Keith
Ok settings gurus, What values of K3 AGC parameters will make the K3 most closely mimic the AGC in the K2? - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] First-time VOX test: It works!

2008-07-07 Thread Stewart Baker
Yup, it's pretty good.. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:59:51 -0600, Bill W5WVO wrote: To those of you SSB ops who won't use VOX because every implementation of it you've ever used basically sucked -- Try the K3! I just set it up using my Heil Pro-Set for the first time, and it works

Re: [Elecraft] For the Beancounters

2008-07-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi William, 1. I apologize for the mis-marked 2.8 kHz filter cardboard box. We usually dispose of and marked up boxes and use new ones when shipping filters. Your filter should be good, but we'll replace it if needed. 2. We are removing L3 on all KANT3s now at the factory as we found this

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread David Cutter
Bill I don't follow how filter offsets degrade oscillator tracking, ie to make a beat frequency. Sorry if I'm being thick. David G3UNA What would be the effect of unmatched filters? You would have a beat frequency, such as I mentioned with Orion above, which would be the difference in

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
With two synthesizers, our software must calculate the proper PLL divider and reference frequencies for each one. When setting the sub and main to the same RX frequency, if the filter offsets set in the menu are different this can cause small rounding errors in the synthesizer frequency

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] First-time VOX test: It works!

2008-07-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
DSP based VOX is very cool. :-) We can do some interesting things to avoid dropped first syllables. Eric WA6HHQ Stewart Baker wrote: Yup, it's pretty good.. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:59:51 -0600, Bill W5WVO wrote: To those of you SSB ops who won't use VOX because every

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] First-time VOX test: It works!

2008-07-07 Thread Stewart Baker
Is that do do or can do ? 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:25:32 -0700, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: DSP based VOX is very cool. :-) We can do some interesting things to avoid dropped first syllables. Eric WA6HHQ Stewart Baker wrote: Yup, it's pretty good.. 73 Stewart

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] First-time VOX test: It works!

2008-07-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
'Do' as in 'already do'.. ;-) Our current DSL firmware is designed to provide an extremely fast VOX that does not drop much, if any, of the first syllable. 73, Eric Stewart Baker wrote: Is that do do or can do ? 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:25:32 -0700, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ,

[Elecraft] CW popping sidetone

2008-07-07 Thread
I have a recent model K2 that has an interesting problem: on each key closer, there is a pop in the speaker. This is present at times in QSK or not QSK. It is present with paddle connected to radio, or Winkeyer external keyer, same problem. It is present in test mode or not test mode. The pop

Re: [K3] [Elecraft] First-time VOX test: It works!

2008-07-07 Thread Bill W4ZV
Eric - WA6HHQ wrote: 'Do' as in 'already do'.. ;-) Our current DSL firmware is designed to provide an extremely fast VOX that does not drop much, if any, of the first syllable. Let me guess. Put the audio stream in a short delay line and offset the initiation by the amount of time it

[K2] [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice recorder

2008-07-07 Thread Norcross
Eric, Is there any news on when we can expect the release of the DVR? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3--Digital-Voice-recorder-tp18324569p18324569.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 KRC2

2008-07-07 Thread AD6XY - Mike
Is there an easy way for the KRC2 and K3 to give an output for 6m? My problem - quite common I expect, is to switch antennas between HF and 6m. I bought a KRC2 and have just finished building it. However,I find there is not a 6m output. I suppose I could work on the NOT 6m principle and energise

Re: [Elecraft] K3 KRC2

2008-07-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, The coding for the K3 6 meter band is the same as the KRC2 60 meter band (and the KRC2 does not decode the combination used by the K3 for 60 meters). Connect the KRC2 to the K3 and verify that the /60 output goes to ground (check with ohmmeter) when the K3 selects 6 meters. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Björn Mohr
Thanks for the input, this is really interesting! On 2008-07-07 19.23, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With two synthesizers, our software must calculate the proper PLL divider and reference frequencies for each one. When setting the sub and main to the same RX

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] First-time VOX test: It works!

2008-07-07 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Nice! It´s years and years since I´ve used a VOX that worked correct. Sure looking forward to receive my K3. Too bad I have to wait another while, oh well there are plenty other things to do but radio. 73 Jim SM2EKM --- Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: DSP based VOX

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Software suggestion: a more prominent TESTindicator

2008-07-07 Thread Paul
I have a nice big SWR meter - CN-801 HP so I can quickly see if there's any smoke going up the coax. What could be simpler? Simon Brown, HB9DRV I have the same meter, always in line. No problems with Test mode here. Paul N4LCD ___ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Questions and K3 options? Please!

2008-07-07 Thread Paul
My problem is that I'm not sure which filters I should add to my order for a primarily CW use radio. Probably none other than the included 2.7 kc filter, unless you're contesting. You can always add narrow filters later if you find out that you really need them. Paul N4LCD

[Elecraft] Switching supplies and the K3

2008-07-07 Thread Thomas Kuehl
Hi, I am back on the Elecraft list after being gone for quite a while. I have a K3/100 coming in the next month or 2, and now I am thinking about how it is best to power it. The K3 has a nice small footprint and that will be much welcomed in my small operating area. And, I don't want to dwarf

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC - making it like the K2?

2008-07-07 Thread Val
Ok settings gurus, What values of K3 AGC parameters will make the K3 most closely mimic the AGC in the K2? - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - Well, my choice is high threshold, steep slope and low AF gain! AGC THR 8 AGC SLP 4 73' Val, LZ1VB K3 516 K2 2745

RE: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Bill, David you may be suggesting that in theory but I would pay *close attention* to what W0YK says. Ed wins many RTTY contests including several current world records from P49X, and results sometimes speak louder to me than theory (and I'm an engineer if that means anything). Ed and

RE: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Bill W4ZV
Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote: Bill, David you may be suggesting that in theory but I would pay *close attention* to what W0YK says. Ed wins many RTTY contests including several current world records from P49X, and results sometimes speak louder to me than theory (and I'm an engineer

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC - making it like the K2?

2008-07-07 Thread Bill W4ZV
Val-LZ1VB wrote: Well, my choice is high threshold, steep slope and low AF gain! AGC THR 8 AGC SLP 4 Sounds about right Val! See the K2 AGC curve here about 2/3 of the way down the page: http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/receiver_agc_curves.htm 73, Bill -- View this message in

RE: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Brett Howard
Being tha t it was mentioned that best responses seem to be with a roofing filter wider than 300Hz and then he mentioned the 250Hz filter wouldn't you deduce that he meant the 370Hz filter which Elecraft calls 250Hz? I mean maybe I'm jumping to conclusions here but that was pretty clear to me.

Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread PhilB
KFL3A-250 K3 250 Hz, 8 pole filter - Original Message - From: Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's interesting since there isn't a 250 Hz roofing filter. There's a 370 Hz and a 224 Hz, but no 250 Hz. What did you use for the 250 measurement above or is that a calculated result? At

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] First-time VOX test: It works!

2008-07-07 Thread Stewart Baker
A little bit of DSP delay works wonders :-) 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:03:49 -0700, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: 'Do' as in 'already do'.. ;-) Our current DSL firmware is designed to provide an extremely fast VOX that does not drop much, if any, of the first syllable.

[Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 down again

2008-07-07 Thread nz0t
After performing flawlessly for over a year my KPA100 has died for the second time in about 3 months. I was finishing a nice 20 minute QSO on 10M CW last week when the rig's lights flickered and the power supply shut down. Now the power cord fuses blow and there appears to be a short when the

RE: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Bill W4ZV
Brett Howard wrote: Being tha t it was mentioned that best responses seem to be with a roofing filter wider than 300Hz and then he mentioned the 250Hz filter wouldn't you deduce that he meant the 370Hz filter which Elecraft calls 250Hz? I mean maybe I'm jumping to conclusions here but

[Elecraft] Hearing the effect of narrower roofing filter

2008-07-07 Thread Erik N Basilier
All, My K3 (with one extra roofing filter for CW) is not here yet, so I am asking this question without direct experience. It will be interesting to do an A/B comparison to see how the receiver sounds with/without the narrow crystal filter for a given bandwidth. I suspect this kind of test is

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 down again

2008-07-07 Thread Kurt Cramer
Bill, I'd do the resistence checks shown in the KPA100 manual under Alignment and Installation. It's page 40 in my old manual. Anyway it's Q1, Q2, Q9 and D13. All the final and driver circuits. Kurt - Original Message - From: nz0t [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

RE: [Elecraft] K3: KRX3 question

2008-07-07 Thread Brett Howard
Direct quote from the message: Much of the narrowing is due to the very humped (Gaussian) nature of the narrow crystal filters but the best responses for RTTY seem to be with a roofing filter wider than 300 Hz (the 250 Hz/8-pole) and/or keeping the DSP filter wider than 250 Hz with or

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 down again

2008-07-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill, Remove the shield and give it a good visual inspection first - look for any evidence of overheated components. Then check the diodes in the T/R switch - preferably with a diode test function of a DMM, but the ohmmeter will work too - check both the forward and reverse connections. Check

[Elecraft] Rev A-1 Sub-RX Manual Errata Sheet Posted

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Hvizdak
A single page errata sheet to the sub-RX manual was posted on Elecraft's website this morning. It is rev. A1, dated June 30th. The full URL is ... http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740126E_KRX3_Inst_Operate_Errata_Rev_A1.pdf 73, Gary KI4GGX ___

[Elecraft] New owner !!

2008-07-07 Thread George Osier
Name here is George Osier , N2JNZ from Ogdensburg , NY A question .. I have a K1 .. is there any way to have 10 meters on it ?? I have 15 , 20, 30 and 40 now. Thanks !!! George , N2JNZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

RE: [Elecraft] Switching supplies and the K3

2008-07-07 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
I am having very good performance from the SEC 1223 which is the same supply I use with the K2/100. If it does generate any noise I have yet to hear it. Bruce-W8FU -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kuehl Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008