[Elecraft] Determining zero-beat

2010-12-03 Thread Pete Smith
I want to use my K3 to calibrate the QS1R receiver used here as part of the Reverse Beacon Network. For technical reasons, it's desirable to calibrate the QS1R at as high a frequency as possible, so I wanted to do so in the 6-meter band. I thought that if I knew how accurate the K3's

[Elecraft] ICOM 9100

2010-12-03 Thread John Ragle
Has anyone experienced the ICOM 9100? I don't seem to find any real-world specs on this item... John Ragle -- W1ZI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm

Re: [Elecraft] I wish I had my KPA-500 here-ZK2A

2010-12-03 Thread Bob Naumann
Doug, What trouble are you having with the THP amps? 73, Bob W5OV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Faunt Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:23 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] I

Re: [Elecraft] ICOM 9100

2010-12-03 Thread Sam Morgan
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/icom hint hint GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 12/3/2010 5:51 AM, John Ragle wrote: Has anyone experienced the ICOM 9100? I don't seem to find any real-world specs on this item... John Ragle -- W1ZI

[Elecraft] Re: ICOM 9100

2010-12-03 Thread Johnny Siu
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[Elecraft] K3: Preferred Topband transceiver

2010-12-03 Thread Bill W4ZV
FYI from the Topband reflector: http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/topband/2010-December/033835.html What would be the preferred Topband transceiver these days in the two categories: 1.) Onboard 2nd receiver 2.) No onboard 2nd receiver Replies off list would be appreciated. 73 Frank

[Elecraft] K3 Key Out Inoperative in CW Tune Modes

2010-12-03 Thread Dennis Ward
All: All of a sudden, my K3 has stopped activating the Key Out while in CW or XMIT / Tune mode. The Key Out does work when closing the PTT input on the Mic Jack. I received the suggestion to re-init the radio last night. I'm not ready to do that, as I was cautioned that saving a recent

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Yes but to what rise/fall time was the radio set? AFAIK in the FT5000 it can be changed. /Jim SM2EKM --- On 2010-12-02 02:43, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: They already have - See the keying bandwidth spectral plots in the ARRL reviews. The FT-5000 is considerably wider than

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Yes absolutely /SM2EKM On 2010-12-02 02:58, Steve Ellington wrote: Wouldn't having bad key clicks be an advantage in a contest? Steve N4LQ - Original Message - From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecrafte...@elecraft.com To: David Gilbertxda...@cis-broadband.com

Re: [Elecraft] Determining zero-beat

2010-12-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Set mode to CW. Set width to 200 Hz. Do a HOLD on MON. Set level to 20-25. Tap MON to turn off beat. Tune to 10.000.000. Tap SPOT. Should hear a beat, albeit a slow one. Advance or retard AF gain to get the obvious beat. In CONFIG: go to REF CAL. This will have turned off SPOT. Tap it

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Barry N1EU
Jan Erik Holm wrote: Yes but to what rise/fall time was the radio set? AFAIK in the FT5000 it can be changed. It was most likely set to the default 4 msec. It can be set to 1, 2, 4, 6 msec. Barry N1EU -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Dale Putnam
Only if it is not important to make contacts with folks that don't tolerate poor operating techniques. --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy Wouldn't having bad key clicks be an advantage in a contest?

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Barry N1EU
It's only an advantage when you're trying to ward off a key clicking neighbor. If your potential neighbors would have non-clicking rigs, there is no advantage. In any case, you are just being a jerk (or worse) if you're knowingly producing key clicks. Barry N1EU Jan Erik Holm wrote: Yes

Re: [Elecraft] Determining zero-beat

2010-12-03 Thread Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
Just one caveat on this procedure (thanks Guy!) -- make sure you have CWT turned OFF; otherwise, SPOT will not do what you want it to. (It will attempt to retune the VFO.) Bill W5WVO -Original Message- From: Guy Olinger K2AV Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 13:38 To:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Key Out Inoperative in CW Tune Modes

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dennis, Save the configuration and do the EEINIT, then restore the configuration. At most you might have to enter one menu parameter manually - but only if it is wrong in your K3 right now. If all your menu items are correct now, they will restore correctly. Having to manually change one

Re: [Elecraft] Determining zero-beat

2010-12-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I guess you can tell I never use CWT :) Thanks for the tip. 73, Guy. On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO w5...@cybermesa.net wrote: Just one caveat on this procedure (thanks Guy!) -- make sure you have CWT turned OFF; otherwise, SPOT will not do what you want it to. (It

[Elecraft] hello

2010-12-03 Thread Lloyd Taylor
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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Paul Christensen
4 ms. Given that the FTdx5K rise/fall is roughly double the time of the K3 -- and that the K3 at 2 ms consumes significantly less bandwidth than the FTdx5K at 4 ms, the CW transmit quality of the K3 is far superior. I would like to hear QSK on the Yaesu, compare it with the K3's QRQ mode, and

Re: [Elecraft] Determining zero-beat

2010-12-03 Thread Wes Stewart
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Ref-Osc-Cal-Method-4-td2595451.html --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Pete Smith n...@contesting.com wrote: From: Pete Smith n...@contesting.com Subject: [Elecraft] Determining zero-beat To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:09

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Of course I agree. However there are far far too many that doesn´t care, they will do anything they can to find ways. There are people modifying their radios to get more key clicks, there are people with a class C switch on their amplifiers, etc ect it goes on and on. It´s a rotten world and some

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
All the click complaints for years and still Yaesu doesn't take care of the waveform. It's not like there aren't tons of reads on the subject, no excuse at all since Google. It's more like they just don't care, or are simply convinced it doesn't matter. After all, isn't CW obsolete, and nobody

[Elecraft] BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread kruegerbenny
Hello, my BFO test failed (it shows 0. Hz). After checking the right values of the parts, I made some measurements with an oscilloscope. Here the results: Between C174 and C173 : signal with a frequency of 8,06MHz (720mV peak). Results @ RP6: Pin2/Pin8 : no Signal Pin4: 8,37MHz (116mV peak)

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
OK. AFAIK at 4 ms a CW TX will have to much bandwith. Even the K3 at 5 ms (if it hasen´t changed since I measured it) do have mild clicks. I wish the K3 could be set to something like 7 or 8 ms. / Jim SM2EKM On 2010-12-03 14:43, Barry N1EU wrote: Jan Erik Holm wrote: Yes but

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
So now we have a 2 ms claim for the K3. I know I measured it to 5 ms but this was something like 2 years ago. What is it? Can Elecraft please tell. And yes dynamic testing of SSB IMD is the only way to go when dealing with a ALC/AGC controlled TX. Jim SM2EKM On 2010-12-03

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Waveform? When you have a 1 ms raise/fall time no way you can shape the waveform so it doesnt click. /Jim SM2EKM --- On 2010-12-03 15:29, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: All the click complaints for years and still Yaesu doesn't take care of the waveform. It's not like there aren't tons of

Re: [Elecraft] BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Name and call please - now required by reflector guidelines. I assume this is a K2 - although you did not state it, it only makes some sense with the K2. Is the internal counter probe working? What do you get when in CAL FCTR if you plug the probe into TP3 or TP1? The BFO frequency of the

Re: [Elecraft] New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
The FT5000 is a mighty fine transceiver! 73 Arie PA3A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Paul Christensen
OK. AFAIK at 4 ms a CW TX will have to much bandwith. Even the K3 at 5 ms (if it hasen´t changed since I measured it) do have mild clicks. It' not strictly the rise/fall time, it's the shape of the RF envelope within the rise/fall time. http://www.w8ji.com/cw_bandwidth_described.htm Using the

Re: [Elecraft] New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Barry N1EU
If you're running in a cw contest, any radio that has worse key clicks than your radio and is a potential close neighbor, is not mighty fine. Barry N1EU Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2 wrote: The FT5000 is a mighty fine transceiver! -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Yes I do know that it´s not the rise/fall time alone, that has never been my point. However one factor is the rise/fall and if it´s too fast it will not be possible to fix it with shaping. Why, yes IMO the K3 clicks too much. I know it can be done since there are radios around that doesn´t click

Re: [Elecraft] New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
The FT5000 will improve in the coming half year. I'm sure of it. Yeasu might modify some things (software updates), or others will. It is just that every time a good transceiver hits the market, everybody seems to jump on the subject to prove that it is not a good transceiver. At least, not as

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 3, 2010, at 12/36:44 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote: So now we have a 2 ms claim for the K3. I know I measured it to 5 ms but this was something like 2 years ago. What is it? Can Elecraft please tell. Quite possibly the waveshaping is done by an FIR window. So the design parameter

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Paul Christensen
Why, yes IMO the K3 clicks too much. Jim, If you're experiencing clicks with your K3, you really need to investigate with a scope. At the risk of pontificating, every station should have a scope to monitor the transmit waveform. It can also be used to effectively monitor T/R sequencing

[Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
Hello group, Just wanted to get some advise before I continue with my experiment. I recently received a new BHI ANEM AF DSP module. It is a mono-only device and as such, is supplied with a mono 3.5mm patch cable. Plugging that cable into the K3 only gives me audio to the left channel. The

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Paul and all, Another way of investigating is with a spectrum analyzer - and for investigation of a transmitted signal on one band, it does not have to be expensive (but must be homebrewed to be inexpensive). See the implementation by G4AON at http://www.astromag.co.uk/ssa/ It is quite a

Re: [Elecraft] New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Tommy Alderman
Which put's it in a class with about 75 other transceivers! Tom - W4BQF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Arie Kleingeld PA3A Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:00 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re:

[Elecraft] On the K3's CW keying envelope shaping, rise/fall times, and CW ALC

2010-12-03 Thread Wayne Burdick
There will never be a K3 menu option that allows for clicky CW. K3s are at or near the top in every CW contest already, thanks to the skill of our customers rather than bandwidth-hogging signals. There are two factors that control how clean and click-free a CW keying envelope will be:

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Paul Maruna
Barry N1EU barry.n...@gmail.com wrote: It's only an advantage when you're trying to ward off a key clicking neighbor. If your potential neighbors would have non-clicking rigs, there is no advantage. In any case, you are just being a jerk (or worse) if you're knowingly producing key clicks.

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

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[Elecraft] Part umber E610002

2010-12-03 Thread Dale Putnam
Would it do anyone any good to return the malfunctioning IC ? You folks are so very awesome with customer response. Thank you, Dale Hi Howdy, I found the PIC18C452 in the kit doesn't function correctly, to allow completing test Part 1. However, when I swap one in from a working K2, the

[Elecraft] OT Improving key klix

2010-12-03 Thread Steve Ellington
Here's an excellent 3 page article from 1956. I wonder if Yaesu incorporated some of the ideas? http://n4lq.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=108553476 Forgive the humor. Steve N4LQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] On the K3's CW keying envelope shaping, rise/fall times, and CW ALC

2010-12-03 Thread Al Lorona
Several years ago when the K2 modification was created by Wayne to implement a raised cosine keying filter I installed it and both ran simulations and made measurements of the resulting waveform, which agreed very closely. In fact, I liked the result so much that I duplicated the circuit and

Re: [Elecraft] On the K3's CW keying envelope shaping, rise/fall times, and CW ALC

2010-12-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
It ain't you. They squeeze in to a QRO signal on a 40m 5 element wide-spaced quad on a 220 foot catenary at NY4A. It has to be the bandwidth. When I used an MP out there, people above and below used to complain. On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Al Lorona alor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Several

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
Thank you Joe. That really puts my mind at ease. Vy 73, James K2QI On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: With that said, is it safe to bridge the LR channels coming out of the K3'sphone jacks, front or rear panel without fear of damaging the amplifier?

[Elecraft] spam/ was hello

2010-12-03 Thread roncasa
Uh ... did someone just spammed our reflector?? 72 Ron, wb1hga how much deeper would the ocean be without sponges __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm

Re: [Elecraft] I wish I had my KPA-500 here-ZK2A

2010-12-03 Thread Doug Faunt
The THP amps are doing pretty well. One high-pass filter has failed, but we just select the next higher band and go. They're just not well integrated with the radio or tuners. There's apparently no provision for automatic bandswitching. I can even make my IC2KL do that if I'd make the time to

[Elecraft] Nice discovery

2010-12-03 Thread Richard Brown
I discovered a nice thing recently. The K3 utility software shows the code from the K3 pretty well in the Terminal Mode when connected directly to the K3 but did not do it when connected through the P3. I fixed that by just shutting the power off on the P3 when listening and the code comes

[Elecraft] I'm not the J. Wolf

2010-12-03 Thread J. Wolf
To All: I keep seeing the following quotation on the reflector: Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my mind. It's attributed to a J. Wolf. In response to a couple of queries I've received, I just thought I'd clarify that I'm NOT the J. Wolf who authored the

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
No I do not experience key clicks with my own K3. I don´t know what it sounds like and it´s no idea to ask anyone either. It is all the other K3´s that are on the air that has mild keyclicks Yes there are hot switching amps and QSK amps that aren´t correct, I usually can detect those. No it´s

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
No but if you read what I wrote I didn´t say that either. BUT rise/fall time is the ONLY thing we these days can change on our radios (except the K3) Also most people does not know how to listen for key clicks. I know a lot of people that doesn´t even find key clicks on a FT-1000MP, yeah

Re: [Elecraft] Nice discovery

2010-12-03 Thread Alan Bloom
What version of K3 Utility are you using? Older versions used the TT command for the terminal window, which is not supported in the P3. Newer versions use the TB command, which is not only supported by the P3 but should work better in general. Alan N1AL On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 10:24 -0800,

Re: [Elecraft] On the K3's CW keying envelope shaping, rise/fall times, and CW ALC

2010-12-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/3/2010 8:56 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: K3s are at or near the top in every CW contest already, thanks to the skill of our customers rather than bandwidth-hogging signals. Well said, Wayne. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Yes 99% of all CW stations clicks at the break side. I didn´t think about the ALC but that is right, thanks. However by increasing the envelope fall time we will help a bad ALC system if you understand what I mean. Anyway I better can this before HHQ puts the lid on. /SM2EKM QRT

Re: [Elecraft] Determining zero-beat

2010-12-03 Thread Pete Smith
Thanks, guys - that works FB, and my K3 appears to be right on, at least by ear. Someday maybe I'll try an audio spectrum analyzer, but this looks good enough. 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at

Re: [Elecraft] On the K3's CW keying envelope shaping, rise/fall times, and CW ALC

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Good my 5 ms measurement was the closest so far. Thank´s for the explanation on the construction, appreciate it. After all, why should I bother, if my K3 clicks it doesn´t disturb me. /Jim SM2EKM On 2010-12-03 17:56, Wayne Burdick wrote: There will never be a K3 menu option

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/3/2010 8:29 AM, James Sarte (K2QI) wrote: Just wanted to get some advise before I continue with my experiment. Two-circuit 1/8-in plugs should NOT be used at the output of the K3. A 3-circuit plug is needed. Nearly all pre-made patch cables are junk, and many are wired wrong for our

[Elecraft] OTSubject Lines

2010-12-03 Thread Fred Jensen
Could we return to the general practice of putting the Elecraft product name [K2, K1, W2, ...] or OT in the subject lines of posts? Traffic on the reflector is pretty heavy, and I doubt I'm the only one who uses email filters to sort the postings. I guess part of the problem is that once a

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote: Yes 99% of all CW stations clicks at the break side. That makes perfect sense, Jan. If they are using simple IIR filters, the slope discontinuity is worse at the onset of switching than when it is at the end of the leading edge or trailing

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
I'm assuming however that a 2 circuit plug into a 3 circuit adapter should be fine; i.e. plugging a 3.5mm mono plug into 1/4 stereo to 3.5mm stereo adapter, which is then inserted into the 1/4 phone socket? Tnx, James K2QI On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com

Re: [Elecraft] OTSubject Lines

2010-12-03 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
I'd like very much to see this too... 73, Tom Childers Radio Amateur N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Member 35102 ARRL Life Member On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:17:12 -0800, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: Could we return to the general practice of putting the Elecraft product name [K2, K1,

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
I see. Was thinking along terms if change was slow it would make it easier for an AGC with bad dynamic range, i e a slow AGC loop would create less IMD so to speak, well slow at least not fast enough. Interesting but I´m not expert enough, have to think about it more. / Jim SM2EKM --

Re: [Elecraft] I wish I had my KPA-500 here-ZK2A

2010-12-03 Thread Igor Sokolov
The problem with the SPE amps is weight- they're 20 kilos, instead of 10 for each of our current amps and the projected KPA500 (IIRC). SPE does not need LDG autotuner though. It also does not need band decoder and antenna selector. Summing all that up does not make 20 kilos look that bad .

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Yes logical at least to me. Well English is my second language but still makes it difficult. Yes but if the fall time is longer the discontinuity will be less abrupt and by so make it easier for a bad regulating device, if you understand what I mean. We want to shape the first part of the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread Brian Alsop
RG-174 is fine for one circuit. I'd really like to find some affordable shielded dual center conductor stuff somewhere. Yeah, one can always make two wire twisted pairs, but a good shield and outer jacket ends up missing. Cat-x is overkill with too many conductors. 73 de Brian/K3KO On

[Elecraft] [K3] Key Clicks

2010-12-03 Thread Corboy - Poteet
OK, this has been bashed about pretty good. So my question is: if someone puts a spectrum analyzer on the CW output of a K3, are key clicks detectable? On make, on break? Close in, far out, in between? If they exist, what is the level of the click relative to the signal? If they exist, are

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
James, That is incorrect. If you plug a 3.5mm mono plug into the adapter, it will short between the ring and sleeve on the 1/4 inch side too. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/3/2010 2:45 PM, James Sarte (K2QI) wrote: I'm assuming however that a 2 circuit plug into a 3 circuit adapter should be fine;

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
Thanks Don. I have decided to forego the the 1/4 to 1/8 adapter for the front phone jack. I am now plugging the 1/8 mono cable and plug directly into the rear phone jack. To get audio to both cans, I am using a mono to stereo adapter between the offboard DSP and my headphones. Seems to work

Re: [Elecraft] BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread kruegerbenny
Yes, its a K2 (sorry) The internal counter probe works, already tested in the earlier tests At U11 pin 6, I got a signal with 4.930kHz (2,4V peak to peak) Any idea? -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/BFO-Test-fails-tp584p5801501.html Sent from the [K2]

[Elecraft] [K3] Keypad beeps when phones plugged into rear phone jack?

2010-12-03 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
Is there any way to get the button confirm beeps to sound when using phones plugged into the rear phone jack? -- 73 de James K2QI President UNARC/4U1UN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Keypad beeps when phones plugged into rear phone jack?

2010-12-03 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
Nevermind! All is working. On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:02 PM, James Sarte (K2QI) k2qi@gmail.comwrote: Is there any way to get the button confirm beeps to sound when using phones plugged into the rear phone jack? -- 73 de James K2QI President UNARC/4U1UN -- 73 de James K2QI President

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/3/2010 12:16 PM, Brian Alsop wrote: I'd really like to find some affordable shielded dual center conductor stuff somewhere. Belden makes (or at least used to make) 1901A, which is a miniature twisted pair with a braid shield. I have some, and make some patch cables with it. It's quite

Re: [Elecraft] BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread kruegerbenny
very strange... i measured again and now there is a signal with 8,1MHz at U11-6 with 1,5V peak-to-peak... -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/BFO-Test-fails-tp584p5801541.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Do you have voltage at the drain of Q24 when in CAL FCTR? You must have voltage in order for the signal to pass through Q24. If so, then trace the BFO signal with your 'scope. Both ends of L33 Then through D37 Then to the gate of Q24. Then the source of Q24. Let us know where the signal is

Re: [Elecraft] BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread kruegerbenny
oh, i think i measured @ U11-P7 instead of P6. But when I measured again, there was a signal with ~8.1MHz and 1.5V peak-to-peak. U11-P7: no signal -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/BFO-Test-fails-tp584p5801551.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: New Sherwood report

2010-12-03 Thread Paul Christensen
Yes 99% of all CW stations clicks at the break side. That's an unusually high percentage from what I recall seeing in the QST Product Reviews during the past twenty years. So, I looked at the CW waveforms of the more notorious transceivers. It seems to be an even mix between leading edge

Re: [Elecraft] BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread kruegerbenny
Q24: 5,76V L33(left): 8,33MHz(240mV peak-to-peak) L33(right): no signal (i think here is the lost) I have to admit that I don't have a call sign yet, but I'm already learning for the exam (I'm a student a had a lot to do the the last months..) Thanks for your help Benny -- View this message

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Benny, Thanks for providing your name, and very good luck on acquiring your amateur license. I am also adding K2 to the subject - some here like to filter by rig type. OK, first the frequency is wrong, are you certain you have the time scale on your 'scope calibrated? The K2 BFO crystals

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Key Clicks

2010-12-03 Thread Doug Alspaugh
If you’re a ARRL member you can see a scope output in the K3 review on line. They called it out standing. 73 Doug N3QW -Original Message- From: Corboy - Poteet Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:19 PM To: Elecraft reflector Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Key Clicks OK, this has been

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread Fred Jensen
What is a 3-circuit phone plug? I know about 1-circuit plugs [tip-sleeve providing one circuit] and 2-circuit plugs [tip-ring-sleeve providing two circuits -- tip-sleeve and ring-sleeve]. Is this referring to 2-wire and 3-wire plugs? I've seen on the list here that the wrong plug will blow

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Fred, That circuit nomenclature has a lot of other people confused, and even some confusion has crept into parts catalogs (but not the mainstream distributors). I have seen stereo plugs and jacks called both 2 circuit and 3 circuit - I guess they might refer to the number of pins - then

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
OK, now I'm REALLY confused. From what I've read on the reflector, and what others have told me, it is OK to insert a mono plug into either the front or rear phone jacks. It was also made very clear that inserting a mono plug into the rear SPKR jack was a big no-no, even if the settings were set

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/3/2010 2:03 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: What is a 3-circuit phone plug? One with three contacts -- Tip, Ring, and Sleeve. Often used for stereo headphones, and thus called a stereo plug. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/3/2010 2:31 PM, James Sarte (K2QI) wrote: Now what am I to believe here??? If I understand what was written in the manual, then it's ok to use a mono plug in those jacks as they're buffered by a series of resistors. The manual is correct -- the HEADPHONE output is isolated with

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Key Clicks

2010-12-03 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Corboy - Poteet wrote: So my question is: if someone puts a spectrum analyzer on the CW output of a K3, are key clicks detectable? On make, on break? Close in, far out, in between? If you have one of these new fangled digital 'scope that takes a USB memory

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Key Clicks

2010-12-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I have never heard a K3 barefoot with key clicks. I have heard one where the owner was attempting to operate QSK with a famous brand amp with slow frame relay T/R transfer and was hot switching the amp all the way. The COMBO had key clicks. Really bad key clicks. Probably frying stuff in the amp

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
I will have a look a the schematics tonight after dinner; just find it a bit hard to believe that I'd get conflicting information direct from Aptos. Tnx, James K2QI On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: The manual is correct -- the HEADPHONE output is

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread Paul Christensen
Jim (K9YC) is right. When looking at the K3 schematic, realize that the headphone amp's 8-ohm build-out resistors are not on the same schematic page as the headphone amp. At least it wasn't the last time I looked. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: James Sarte (K2QI)

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread kruegerbenny
crystal values checked - ok continuity of L33 checked - ok D37 is correctly installed and I resoldered all pins of RP6 any other ideas? (how can I check if the crystals are ok?) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/BFO-Test-fails-tp584p5801952.html Sent

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo to mono adapters)

2010-12-03 Thread Steve Ellington
How could a 2 circuit plug be mono since there is only 1 circuit? N4LQ Steve - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Shorting K3 PHONE jack outputs (WAS OT: Stereo

[Elecraft] My two K3s have company

2010-12-03 Thread george fritkin
Sitting next to my K3s are a new Ten Tec Eagle and a new Kenwood TS 590s. I expected the Eagle to be good, but the Kenwood is a surprise, wow.   Anybody want info, you may email me. Thanks George, W6GF __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Benny, Well, if all that is OK, then it should work unless there is a problem with Q24. Check the value of C169 as well as C173 and C174. It is particularly worrysome that you are seeing something around 8 MHz at pin 6 of U11. Please tell us how you are measuring that frequency ('scope or

Re: [Elecraft] Determining zero-beat

2010-12-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
If you get listening to a stretch of it to see how much flat beat time you get, that's as close as you'll ever get it. Plenty close for me and then some. 73 Guy. On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Pete Smith n...@contesting.com wrote: Thanks, guys - that works FB, and my K3 appears to be right

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Benny, Additional thoughts - check D38 for correct orientation. Try putting a jumper from the junction on L33, X3 and X4 to see if you get oscillation at 4915 kHz or something close to that frequency - if you do, the crystals are OK and your problem is with L33, D37, C169 or Q24. 73, Don

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread kruegerbenny
I will do the tests tomorrow, but one question: A jumper from junction of l33,x3 and x4 to where? Benny -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/BFO-Test-fails-tp584p5802044.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO Test fails

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Benny, To ground. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/3/2010 8:15 PM, kruegerbenny wrote: I will do the tests tomorrow, but one question: A jumper from junction of l33,x3 and x4 to where? Benny __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] KX1 - KX1 Zero Beat Mod ??

2010-12-03 Thread stan levandowski
Before I purchased my KX1, I recall reading something about a 3rd party product offering for a zero beat mod. Predictably, I can't find it in the Elecraft Archives or by Googling KX1 modifications. Any KX1 users out there know anything about this mod? I was quite successful in the recent CQ

Re: [Elecraft] KX1 - KX1 Zero Beat Mod ??

2010-12-03 Thread Byron Servies
Search for K6XX CW tuning indicator. There is a kit for the K1, KX1, and K2. http://www.n3epa.org/Pages/K6XX/K6XXCWIndicatorKit.htm Having received new micro LEDs for my button kit (dang those things are ity bity), I'll be installing one in my K1 this weekend. 73, Byron N6NUL K1 #2799 On

Re: [Elecraft] KX1 - KX1 Zero Beat Mod ??

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Stan, You can thank Tom Hammond N0SS for developing the circuit board and the initial kits from the initial K6XX design. Yes, Tom does not take enough credit for himself, and he put a lot into that mod kit - see his website at www.noss.net. The kits are now available from N3EPA

Re: [Elecraft] KX1 - KX1 Zero Beat Mod ??

2010-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sorry for the Typo, Tom's website is www.n0ss.net - I put an o in the address instead of a zero - I will blame it on fat fingers 73, Don W3FPR On 12/3/2010 9:10 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Stan, You can thank Tom Hammond N0SS for developing the circuit board and the initial kits from the

[Elecraft] [K3} Why is 4.22 still beta?

2010-12-03 Thread Barry
Is there still testing or work being done on it? Barry W2UP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted

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