Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 4.58 - Problem using K144XV

2012-11-16 Thread Geoffrey Downs
Yes my K3/K144XV does the same. When it showed 181 MHz on the VFO A display (after entering 145) ERR PL1 also appeared briefly on the VFO B display. Then, after using the bandswitch to go to 2m the VFO A display started with 144.000 MHz but on subsequent visits to 2m via the bandswitch it

[Elecraft] OT: Open wire feeder cautions

2012-11-16 Thread Edward R Cole
Ron relates getting an RF burn. I recall getting burn thru my finger from a 432 MHz 5w tripler. I always attributed it to the 800vdc on the plate but may actually have been RF. Poked a pin hole burn right thru my finger (very painful for a couple weeks). I was more careful handling live

[Elecraft] Take out of the list

2012-11-16 Thread Gerhard Thormeyer
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[Elecraft] KAT500

2012-11-16 Thread Barry Simpson
Further to my earlier posting, I have now got the new KAT500 connected to the K3 and KPA500 as per the instructions. Of course it did not work at all at first. However, I just got back from dinner out with the XYL, checked again and found that I had reversed the antenna/transceiver cables !! Now

Re: [Elecraft] K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

2012-11-16 Thread Joel Black
To either of you, what is your default sound card? I ran into a similar problem while experimenting with Win8 - upon boot-up, the radio would key several times. The SignaLink microphone was the default mic input. I changed it to something else and that problem disappeared. 73, Joel - W4JBB

Re: [Elecraft] K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

2012-11-16 Thread Joel Black
Disregard my previous email. Your situation is different than mine. In my case, the SignaLink was keying, not the K3. In normal operation, I let software key my K3 not the SLUSB. 73, Joel - W4JBB On 11/15/2012 6:09 AM, Mike Harris wrote: My Dell Win7/64 box keys the K3 seven times in a

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

2012-11-16 Thread John K3TN
I was a Dayton orderer of the KAT-500 kit and last night got my email from Madelyn. I plan on using the KAT-500's arrival as the driving factor to finally redo my operating position - so, I've sort of appreciated the lag in delivery, as that has postponed much work beyond assembling the tuner...

Re: [Elecraft] K2: High SWR On Dummy Load

2012-11-16 Thread Ariel Jacala
Don and all who helped Diodes have been replaced. Everything is back to normal Thanks Ariel NY4G Sent from my iPad On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Ariel. While it is sometimes possible to clip the leads on the top of the board and use the

Re: [Elecraft] soldering SMD's

2012-11-16 Thread VE3WDM
I wanted to take a moment to thank all who gave me great feedback on my SMD question. Lots of great suggestions, web links and Youtube suggestions. I am now able to tackle the SMD boogieman and I am hoping that these posts will also assist others who come to the group with similar questions about

Re: [Elecraft] With all the problems

2012-11-16 Thread Thom Durfee
we can end this thread now...it has been stretched to it's limits. that being said I can say that I have been a big fan of Elecraft since it's creation. In my ham career of nearly 40 years I can say without a doubt that this company is one of the best I have ever been involved with. I simply

Re: [Elecraft] K3 will not display decoded CW

2012-11-16 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi Craig, 4.51 does have some problems decoding CW and the beta 4.58 is better. Also, you want to be displaying VFO B and not the alternate display. Cheers and 73, Fred KE7X -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of

Re: [Elecraft] soldering SMD's

2012-11-16 Thread Don KA1KU
I know the group has given you good suggestions and options for SMD soldering but there is another route which is much better IMHO, but more expensive, of course. Being able to solder SMD devices easily, togther with todays CAD Tools, such as Eagle (free for small two-sided boards), makes

Re: [Elecraft] K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

2012-11-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
If you are using a serial cable for PTT (CONFIG:PTT-KEY), Windows will pulse the DTR and RTS lines during the boot process. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 11/16/2012 5:54 AM, Joel Black wrote: To either of you, what is your default sound card? I ran into a similar problem while experimenting

[Elecraft] KX3 configuration display

2012-11-16 Thread Jeff Herr
Is there a utility that displays all the config info? ...so that ALL of the setting can be perused? WW6L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] soldering SMD's

2012-11-16 Thread Don KA1KU
Sorry, Eagle is a Printed circuit design software. See cadsoftusa.com. You can draw your circuit schematic and then create a PCB board layout. The software will then produce the necessary files to send to a board house to create the actual board. Within Eagle there is a very extensive library

[Elecraft] ERR TXF Error during ESSB transmissions

2012-11-16 Thread N2ZDB
We allow the FM filter to be use for AM transmit, now, but not for ESSB transmit. The filter is too wide for this purpose. 73, Wayne N6KR OK but this is not my problem. If I have the FM filter enabled for AM transmit then ESSB transmission gives me a ERR TXF error when trying to

[Elecraft] K3 no mod from FP conn

2012-11-16 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Before I hassle elecraft support maybe someone on the list can come up with something. Just put together a new K3 and I can´t get any mic connection to the FP connector, i e no modulation. It works ok from the rear connector. I checked Config / Main and don´t seem to find any errors. Is there

[Elecraft] Kenwood TM-V7 for sale

2012-11-16 Thread John Cooper
First $175 paypal to w...@gt.rr.com gets it. Pics available can email. No manual but has mobil bracket mount seperation cable and control head mount. Programming cable (serial port) Dtmf backlit microphone. Power cable with anderson power poles. John Cooper 409-499-6690 409-497-8033

Re: [Elecraft] K3 will not display decoded CW

2012-11-16 Thread Greg
Craig, Try tapping DISP again. If you tell the radio to display the alternate data with the DISP control that is all you will see...no decoded text will show. On 11/15/12, Craig - AE6RR ae...@pacbell.net wrote: I think that I have gotten my K3 in a funny mode somehow. It will not display

[Elecraft] K3 CWT Function

2012-11-16 Thread Mike Harris
G'day, Checked out the CWT function with the latest beta 4r58 and all appears to be back to normal (pre 4r51). Full range on the display and nicely balanced about the centre point. It's been a while in the fixing but it's been worth the wait. I cannot comment on the CW decoder, I don't use

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 4.58 - Problem using K144XV

2012-11-16 Thread Wayne Burdick
I just fixed this and will send you the new firmware to test. It should be up on the web site later today. Wayne N6KR On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:56 AM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: Yes my K3/K144XV does the same. When it showed 181 MHz on the VFO A display (after entering 145) ERR PL1 also

Re: [Elecraft] K3 no mod from FP conn

2012-11-16 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
When on MENU:MIC SEL , and with it set to FP.L or FP.H, tapping 2 should toggle the bias on and off. 73, Guy. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jan Erik Holm sm2...@bdtv.se wrote: Before I hassle elecraft support maybe someone on the list can come up with something. Just put together a new

[Elecraft] Using XG-3 to Evaluate RX Antenna Switch

2012-11-16 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
I recently built an 8-way hub for receiving antennas, using an inexpensive Chinese made remote control switch. The switch works fine - at least the controller in the shack actuates the remote relays, but I'm quite suspicious of the actual RF performance. Here's what I'm wondering - can I use

Re: [Elecraft] K3 will not display decoded CW

2012-11-16 Thread Craig - AE6RR
Hi Fred, I have tried tapping the DISP key several times and tried with both alt data and VFO B. The CWT indicator does not blink when I adjust the threshold either, so it may be a decoding problem. I am testing with a K3/0 and the remote rig boxes, getting ready to deploy the main K3/100 to a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 no mod from FP conn

2012-11-16 Thread Jan Erik Holm
OK Guy, Well if it works from the rear bias must be offor??? I have in CONFIG mic bnd off ( I think it was). But will try this tapping 2 /Jim --- On 2012-11-16 17:01, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: When on MENU:MIC SEL , and with it set to FP.L or FP.H, tapping 2 should toggle the bias

Re: [Elecraft] K3 no mod from FP conn

2012-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, The MIC SEL menu item is found in the main menu. The entry in the CONFIG menu is MIC BTN which is for the :MIC BUTTONS - that is the up and down buttons if they are present. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/16/2012 11:11 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote: OK Guy, Well if it works from the rear bias must be

[Elecraft] K3/0 to K3/100 RemoteRig transmit audio problem

2012-11-16 Thread Craig - AE6RR
I am using a K3/0 and a K3/100 with the RemoteRig boxes. I have the standard versions as sold at HRO not the ones with the special microphone jumper module. I jumpered the mic connections as shown in the RemoteRig manual on page 193 and I have horrible digital noise on my transmit audio even

[Elecraft] M1-M4 issues on Beta K3 software

2012-11-16 Thread Bill Davis
  Maybe it is just me?? I had M1-M4 (Message buttons) programed for single button band selection. After installing the Beta Firmware 4.58 all my transverter frequencies above 6meters (222.1, 902.1, 10368.1) are messed up. Even reloading good config does not resolve the single tap band change

Re: [Elecraft] K3 no mod from FP conn

2012-11-16 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Yes MIC BTNunderstand, it´s off anyway. MIC SELyes I know. I was looking in all menus for the bias since I was thinking that it was the culprit but didn´t find it. However since it works from the rear panel connector and not the FP connector can it still be the bias? /Jim --- On

[Elecraft] Dumb Question

2012-11-16 Thread kissov
I have the sub receive and attached to it the general coverage receiver. I cannot figure out how to band change and mode change on the sub receive and tune the general coverage receiver to for instance 1070 AM the local news radio. I listen now online but its clogged with adds. I have

Re: [Elecraft] With all the problems

2012-11-16 Thread N5GE
Yes, their service and support remind me of the RL Drake Company employees who were very helpful and had authority to mail new parts without asking the boss. Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 07:13:18 -0500, Thom Durfee p...@priest.com

[Elecraft] KAT500 Serial Command Reference is now on the Elecraft manual download page

2012-11-16 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The KAT500 Serial Command Reference is now on our Elecraft Manual Download page. Corrections directly to me, please. http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#kat500 You may need to refresh your browser to see the update. 73 de Dick, K6KR dick (at) elecraft.com

Re: [Elecraft] Dumb Question

2012-11-16 Thread David Little
Hold the 1 button on the keypad for one second to toggle :b Set David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kis...@me.com Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:49 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject:

Re: [Elecraft] Using XG-3 to Evaluate RX Antenna Switch

2012-11-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Will I get any useful information from this? Yes. You will be able to measure isolation (on/off and port to port) but not absolute levels or insertion loss. Will the transformer affect the RF voltage as seen on the other side of it. Yes. Why don't you build up another transformer to

[Elecraft] FS: Agilent 5034A 300 MHz 4 channel oscilloscope - mint condition

2012-11-16 Thread Craig Smith
From time-to-time there are discussions here about purchasing oscilloscopes, so thought I'd post this for my Elecraft friends who may be interested in acquiring a high quality scope at a fair price. I have for sale my mint condition Agilent DSO5034A oscilloscope, SN MY47150520. This was

[Elecraft] KAT500 help

2012-11-16 Thread Bob Woodward
I just installed a KAT500 and a KPA500 (Merry Christmas to me). I installed the auxiliary cables between K3 and tuner and amp. Coax and power to tuner amp and rig. Now I'm in trouble. The manual and my brain don't connect. Here's the problem. When I push tune on the KAT500 the auto light

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 help

2012-11-16 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Bob Woodward bobwoodw...@mac.com wrote: I just installed a KAT500 and a KPA500 (Merry Christmas to me). I installed the auxiliary cables between K3 and tuner and amp. Coax and power to tuner amp and rig. Now I'm in trouble. The manual and my brain don't

Re: [Elecraft] K3 no mod from FP conn

2012-11-16 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
You have not yet mentioned tapping 2 with MAIN:MIC SEL on to toggle the bias. The bias for FP.x and the bias for rP.x are independent and set by tapping 2 when you have either of them selected. The bias on the front pin should toggle on and off with the menu display going back and forth between

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Extended VFO Temperaturer Compensation

2012-11-16 Thread Wayne Burdick
No. You could use a 6-meter transceiver (including the K3), or our new XG50, which is a single-frequency TCXO. 73, Wayne N6KR On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:32 PM, John Hendricks wrote: Is the XG3 stable enough to be used for this procedure? John Hendricks K7JLT

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 KXBC3 and NiZN batteries

2012-11-16 Thread Chip Stratton
Just a battery update: I got the A123 26650 2400 mAh cells from Hobbyking and they are indeed good quality new cells that test out at better than rated capacity at a 3 amp discharge rate. These will make excellent long life and safe battery packs. Ive recently been made aware of another vendor

Re: [Elecraft] K3 no mod from FP conn

2012-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
I recall that some posts ago, you said you have 5 volts on pin 1 of the front mic jack. That fact alone says bias is set on for the front mic. Go to the MAIN MENU : MIC SEL entry Then select FP.x (x = H or L) You will likely see bIAS in the display - Tap the 2 button to turn it off. Your

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 help

2012-11-16 Thread Fred Jensen
On your K3, go into CONFIG:TUN PWR and set the tune power to 25 watts. The KAT500 takes about 20-25 watts to tune. Most of us had TUN PWR set at 5W or close for the KAT3, and have forgotten about the setting. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6

Re: [Elecraft] K3 no mod from FP conn

2012-11-16 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Sorry I didn´t. Yes I did do that and then bias turns on of course. Thanks for the advice, I didn´t know about that command. I never ever use bias with my microphones. In the first place I was thinking maybe bias was on as default, this wasn´t the case with my first K3. Indeed when tapping 2 BIAS

Re: [Elecraft] K3 no mod from FP conn

2012-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, Yes, I understand the language problem. Sorry that I cannot communicate in your native tongue. There is an independent bias setting for the each microphone jack. Since your microphones do not require bias, make certain bias is set not turned on (indicated by a blank in the MIC SEL menu)

[Elecraft] Help with K3 Evaluation in Palo Alto

2012-11-16 Thread Jay Krishna
Hi, I have been considering for some time about buying a K3; however, given the limited space and antenna constraints (have a simple 20M dipole about 30 feet up) at our home in Palo Alto, I am not sure if I can put together a decent set up worthy of week signal CW DXing or contesting. I am

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 KXBC3 and NiZN batteries

2012-11-16 Thread JP O'Connor
I have two 4S1P sets of the battery packs from epbuddy.com for use with my KX3. Initial testing and use suggests they seem to have full rated capacity and work well. JP WF4Z On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Chip Stratton c...@strattonfamily.uswrote: Just a battery update: I got the A123

Re: [Elecraft] Help with K3 Evaluation in Palo Alto

2012-11-16 Thread Gerald Manthey
Hello Jay. Before I got a vertical dipole, I used a 20 meter bazooka up 16 feet. I worked all kinds of stations and a bunch of DX. I did this running 5 watts and up to 25 watts. I have a K2, K3, and a KX3. They are great radios. It goes without saying a better antenna is going to perform well,

Re: [Elecraft] Help with K3 Evaluation in Palo Alto

2012-11-16 Thread David Guernsey
Jay - I have a K3/10 and operate at about 10 watts all of the time.  I use an 10-40 meter inverted vee up about 30 feet from my QTH here in Salinas.  I have had many SSB contacts with this set up on all bands, but mostly on 10, 20, and 15 meters.  The only problemI have had with DX is getting

[Elecraft] Swap K3FL3A-6K for KFL3B-FM

2012-11-16 Thread David Little
I have AM filters in both main and sub receivers, and would like to have the capability to work FM on 10m. Is there anyone out there that has 2 of the 8-pole FM filters and would like to swap for one an AM 8 -pole filter? respond to kd4nue at arrl dot net Thanks, David KD4NUE

[Elecraft] Swap AM filter for FM filter

2012-11-16 Thread David Little
On my previous message, I referenced 8 pole AM and FM filters, and I am not sure such exists. Let me reword it to want to trade an AM filter for a FM filter. David KD4NUE __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] Kat500 first impressions

2012-11-16 Thread ab2tc
Hi all, I received the KAT500 yesterday and immediately installed it in my shack to replace an MFJ switch and an MFJ manual tuner. Three ports is just ideal for my 2 antenna cables and the dummy load. My ultimate goal is to have one of these mounted remotely where my antennas come down to a

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 KXBC3 and NiZN batteries

2012-11-16 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
I have ordered the KXBC3 for my KX3 and hope to install it soon. I know nothing about rechargeable batteries, and would like some guidance. Will the KXBC3 handle automatic charging of any batteries I put into the battery pack? Do I just run up to 15 VDC into the KX3 power jack and it

Re: [Elecraft] Help with K3 Evaluation in Palo Alto

2012-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jay, Why shoot yourself in the foot twice? If you must have compromise antennas, that is one shot, and perhaps that is unavoidable. I ask why you would use a compromise transceiver with a compromise antenna. The K3 will perform better than that compromise transceiver even with a compromise

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 help

2012-11-16 Thread Barry Simpson
Hi Bob It sounds as though you have made the same mistake as I did yesterday with my new KAT500. In my case I got the co-ax cable wrong. However, from the way you describe it, I think you have misconnected the control cables. You need to remove the existing cable between the K3 and KPA500 from

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 KXBC3 and NiZN batteries

2012-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Lance, The KXBC3 will not charge just any kind of battery - it must be of the NiMH chemistry if you are to be successful. . There are many battery chemistry types out there - in the AA size, the most common rechargable is the NiMH (Nickel Metal Hydride) is one of the more common, and that is

[Elecraft] P3 for sale

2012-11-16 Thread Joseph Trombino, Jr
The P3 has been...many thanks. 73, Joe W2KJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

[Elecraft] P3 for sale

2012-11-16 Thread Joseph Trombino, Jr
OOPS!!! The P3 has been sold...many thanks. 73, Joe W2KJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

[Elecraft] KX3 Micro Manual Available in Apple App Store

2012-11-16 Thread Michael Downs
Attention KX3 users: I have a new app in the Apple App Store that provides the complete KX3 Owner's Manual in an application you can download to your iPhone or iPod Touch. Very convenient way to have the Owner's Manual with you when you operate portable or mobile. Check the following link for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 CWT Function

2012-11-16 Thread Andrew Moore
I too found CWT spot on - pun intended. Accurate every time. NR seems to make the signal a little raspier than I remember in the past; haven't used it much in a few months but just happened to notice it recently. Wonder if anything has changed. Then again, I've changed antenna systems, have more

Re: [Elecraft] Kat500 first impressions

2012-11-16 Thread ab2tc
Hi again, But there are bugs. Here is the first one I can reproduce 100%. The setup is K3 and KAT500 only The aux cable is *not* connected and the the utility is *not* running although the serial cable is connected. This is all to keep things simple. Steps to reproduce: Select KAT500 mode to

Re: [Elecraft] P3 for sale

2012-11-16 Thread Matt Zilmer
I was going to add that the P3 is anything but a has-been. :) matt W6NIA On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:35:10 -0500, you wrote: The P3 has been...many thanks. 73, Joe W2KJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 KXBC3 and NiZN batteries

2012-11-16 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
MNI TNX Don - As usual, very clearly stated and most helpful ;-) VY 73, Lance On 11/17/2012 12:20 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Lance, The KXBC3 will not charge just any kind of battery - it must be of the NiMH chemistry if you are to be successful. . There are many battery chemistry types out

Re: [Elecraft] Kat500 first impressions

2012-11-16 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:19 PM, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote: Hi again, But there are bugs. Here is the first one I can reproduce 100%. The setup is K3 and KAT500 only The aux cable is *not* connected and the the utility is *not* running although the serial cable is connected. This is all to

[Elecraft] November RFTB Sunday Night

2012-11-16 Thread Larry Makoski
Sunday night is the Novermber 2012 edition of the Run For The Bacon. That friendly lil' ol' QRP Sprint sponsored by your friends at the Flying Pigs QRP Amateur Radio Club International. Join us for a spell to have some fun and to say Hi to friends, old and new. The time is the same as

Re: [Elecraft] Kat500 first impressions

2012-11-16 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
“...But there are bugs. Here is the first one I can reproduce 100%” You need to go into the Utility and set up the preferred antenna (or last used) for each band. Phil – AD5X __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] K3 Echo in TX Audio

2012-11-16 Thread James
I've just recently set the K3 up with N1MM to do SSB. I'm using VOX and N1MM F key recordings. During a practice SS QSO, I received reports of a big echo in my transmitted audio. After listening closer, I, too, heard the echo in the MON. I've never had this problem. But, then, I've always

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Echo in TX Audio

2012-11-16 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
Do you have the line out of the K3 connected to the line in of the sound card? If so, disconnect it, and see of the echo goes away. The sound card may be passing the line in out through to line out, which you're feeding the K3's line in - that would capture the monitor audio and feed it back to

Re: [Elecraft] {K3} Split when changing bands?

2012-11-16 Thread Gary K9GS
OK...I got this figured out. I have SPLT SV set to on in the CONFIG/TECH MD menu. As long as I change bands with the K3 and NOT by clicking on a spot in the logging software, the K3 operates like it's supposed toNOT turning off split and remembering the split setting by band. However, if

Re: [Elecraft] With all the problems...

2012-11-16 Thread Al Lorona
This is great advice, Matt. A long while ago someone posted here that they were annoyed that a replacement diode for their kit took too long to arrive from Elecraft. (The customer had lost the original diode or something like that and Elecraft sent him a new one without charging him for it.) I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 CWT Function

2012-11-16 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Nothing changed with NR in beta 4.58. 73, Eric www.elecraft.com _..._ On Nov 16, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Andrew Moore andrew.n...@gmail.com wrote: I too found CWT spot on - pun intended. Accurate every time. NR seems to make the signal a little raspier than I remember in the past; haven't used