Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

Wow, a touch screen. Wow? Come on, it's just an interface between man and machine. Just some ( and I mean /some/) thoughts: A touch screen can be a cheap set of programmable buttons. Could be nice for a user and maybe a cost reduction for the manufacturer. Nothing special and I'm not

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

;From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <e...@elecraft.com> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come >Message-ID: <56fb22dd.1060...@elecraft.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >As

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

Re:   "I may have missed something in this discussion but I question what is different from using a touch screen or the buttons on the radio as we have now?" On screen buttons activate as soon as it is touched.  Hardware buttons allow the finger to touch the button and give the brain an instant

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

As far as I know, touch-screens cannot be easily be navigated by unsighted operators. How would touch-screens be implemented in keeping with Elecraft's promise to allow handicapped operators full access to the operation of the Elecraft line of products? 73, Don W3FPR On 3/29/2016 8:50 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

As a private pilot I fly with a Garmin GTN750 touch-screen GPS NAV/COM in a Cessna 182. Its powerful and quite intuitive to use, even in turbulence. (They included ridges along the four screen sides when needed to steady your hand.) It actually reduces the amount pilot load and time spent

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

al Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Terry Schieler Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 2:26 PM To: 'efortner'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come Earl wrote: "Try using a touchscreen in a light aircraft on

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

Earl wrote: "Try using a touchscreen in a light aircraft on a bumpy air day and you will learn to hate a touch screen."  Earl, K4KAY Those of us who have aging, shaky hands don't even need the turbulence,  our own brains conspire to make touch screens difficult to operate.   The "soft

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

Earl wrote: "Try using a touchscreen in a light aircraft on a bumpy air day and you will learn to hate a touch screen." Earl, K4KAY Or in a Jeep Grand Cherokee on a busy highway at rush hour. I hate Chrysler's U-Connect screen. I used to be able to count (think braille) the knobs

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

In my mind, I have a totally different picture of this. I don't see a panadaptor, or windows, or pop-ups. I see a front panel that looks very much like a KX3 or a K3, with buttons drawn on the touch screen. I see some ability to "turn off" buttons that I would never use, and make other

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

For me, even if touch-screen UI's were written for old people like myself, hi hi, I still think its a technology in its infancy. The infantile part of it being primarily in its application, not so much just the mere fact that TS technology itself new and still in "1.x" revisions. When Garmin

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

I'm not the one here with the most money, I'm absolutely positive of that, but that said; I can buy any rig I want and the dollars spent wouldn't in any way affect me, or anything I do in the future. I just bought a K3S because of the many things it represents but I'm not a martyr to buy

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

: Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come Interesting discussion. I'm not (yet?) a touchscreen fan for radio control, especially during a contest. That being said (cough, cough), I am lately having some fun designing my own touch screen interface for an ANAN-100D. Someone came up

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5 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come Touch Screen... No thank you. I get the allure but ergonomically its going to be miserable the older we are. If you're reaching up to touch a screen, try doing that for a contest's worth when you have shoulder issues. If you don't hav

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

Bill, Your comment is appreciated. I am in your camp but we are a bit older and happy with our current campfire. Younger hams and new hams might be very engaged with a touchscreen interface. The “over $8 K” product managers seem to have peaked lately in their “plethora of knobs" approach to the

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Touch Screen... No thank you. I get the allure but ergonomically its going to be miserable the older we are. If you're reaching up to touch a screen, try doing that for a contest's worth when you have shoulder issues. If you don't have them now, you will after the contest is over. Have a

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

yep, I totally agree. This would be a TBD item for a UI designer, IMO: to what degree do we actually replace the tuning knob with touch-screen QSY? Do we make it capable of just getting into the neighborhood and then the user has to fine tune with the tuning knob? I.e. a kind of dual-capability

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

The IC-7300 display has hideous resolution. It can't even trace curves, just a bunch of bars. Reminds me of the original 2002 Orion sweep display. Whatever Elecraft does going forward, please go to the highest resolution screen that is available and have the horsepower to draw a beautifully

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Wayne and Eric are probably already aware of the competition and working on their own responses, but to me the UI advances I personally like are: - visual representations of the band: panadapters with spectrum displays, waterfalls and the like - being able to easily QSY to items of interest on

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d up either going somewhere I didn't expect or going off > > planet.a bump in the road would be my downfall I reckon. > > 73 > > Gary > > > > -Original Message- > > From: "Bill" <w2...@nycap.rr.com> > > Sent: ‎29/‎03/‎2016

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

t; -Original Message- > From: "Bill" <w2...@nycap.rr.com> > Sent: ‎29/‎03/‎2016 9:40 AM > To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come > > Actually, this does effect Elecraft users

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Cars went through the patch where everything moved onto touch screens. Ergonomically, that is a really bad choice. Newer cars are moving back to having twist controls and buttons for some things that were tried as touch screen controls. The correct answer is to have common features using real

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

There is one overwhelming reason that we'll see touchscreens: As radios become even more software driven, we'll see more and more new features added (like ESSB). The engineers and developers have to find a way to add those functions to existing buttons (push this button 3 times, or go to a

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

be my downfall I reckon. > 73 > Gary > > -Original Message- > From: "Bill" <w2...@nycap.rr.com <javascript:;>> > Sent: ‎29/‎03/‎2016 9:40 AM > To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net <javascript:;>" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net > <javascript:;&

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

be my downfall I reckon. 73 Gary -Original Message- From: "Bill" <w2...@nycap.rr.com> Sent: ‎29/‎03/‎2016 9:40 AM To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come Actually, this does effect E

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Im just too lazy to reach all the way up to the rig to touch the screen with my dirty fingers and smudge up the screen.  In a nutshell, why I dont like touchscreens on radios... George NE2I On Monday, March 28, 2016 6:39 PM, Bill wrote: Actually, this does effect

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

Actually, this does effect Elecraft users. There may be some good ideas that we will want to see incorporated on future Elecraft products. For example, the use of a touch screen for a lot of its controls. I do not care for touch screen myself, but it is the sign of the times on many things and

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

Since this is Not an Elecraft product can this thread please be taken somewhere else? From: John Kramer <jkra...@iafrica.com> To: Bill <w2...@nycap.rr.com> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - th

Re: [Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

I paid for my IC-7300 a few weeks back, and it has arrived with my dealer in the UK. I am flying to the UK in two weeks time to fetch it. Super excited……but I am keeping my KX3 :) 73 John On 28 Mar 2016, at 5:02 PM, Bill wrote: I am amazed at what the touch screen

[Elecraft] IC-7300 video - things to come

I am amazed at what the touch screen can do and all the choices the 7300 offers. That said, I do not see me using a touch screen - too old school I guess. But, the video is interesting: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ic-7300/conversations/messages/2272 I am only posting this for