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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release, Rev. 2.22
Lyle Johnson wrote on 07/29/08 17:30:
I'm still showing 2.19 at the beta site. What am I doing wrong?
Refreshing your browser will usually fix this. You might have to not be
using the web site in frames mode to make this work
Try clicking the refresh button on your browser, or purge your internet
cache. You're probably looking at a cached copy of the list of files in the
directory.
Dick, K6KR
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From: Guy, K2AV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm still showing 2.19 at the beta
Mine came with what looks like the latest beta at the time of shipping (2.11, I
think). Anyway, it's certainly newer than the latest regular release.
Is it recommended that I keep following the betas, or wait until one of the
releases more recent than mine is declared regular?
73
LA4RT Jon
Jon,
That is something you have to decide. You can judge the changes from
the release notes for the Beta relaease and decide if it is important to
you.
There can be residual bugs in any Beta software - it has been tested by
the K3 Firmware Test Team, and you can be assured that the most
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.19 is now available. Details appear
below and in the release notes.
The use of beta-test firmware is encouraged, but optional. Please send
any problem reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For instructions on how
to obtain and load beta firmware, please see:
Can you please explain what's been done to the AGC? I don't understand what
the release note means. After I changed the slope to 15 I have been
relatively happy with the AGC and not looking forward to dramatic changes in
its behavior.
Knut - AB2TC
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.19 is now
Can you please explain what's been done to the AGC? I don't understand what
the release note means. After I changed the slope to 15 I have been
relatively happy with the AGC and not looking forward to dramatic changes in
its behavior.
SLoPe=15 is still flat. You might want to change the
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.15 is now available. Full details
appear below and in the release notes.
The use of beta-test firmware is encouraged, but optional. Please send
any problem reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For instructions on how
to obtain and load beta firmware, please see:
Is this to minimize a constant frequency shift between TX and RX or is
it related to phase response (or something else)?
73 es TNX,
Leigh/WA5ZNU
wayne burdick wrote:
MCU 2.15 / DSP 1.84, 7-8-08
...
* SYNC DATA: Selecting sync data or “-S” now ensures that the
same crystal filter will be used
With this version CW mode quick memories come up as CW reverse when
recalled - in the six meter band only. Returning to beta 2.10
restores normal operation. Can someone else confirm this?
Bob NW8L
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release --
MCU Revision 2.13
Hello Don,
Can you please tell me the undocumented feature for
clearing the Argo V memories? I have one of these
rigs which, due to K2 and K3, doesn't get used. But
still, I'd like to know
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.13 is now available. Full details
appear below and in the release notes.
The use of beta-test firmware is encouraged, but optional. Please send
any problem reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For instructions on how to obtain and load beta firmware, please see:
the improvements
their, but do have a second K3 on order that will be
my subRx and it will benefit from all the other
upgrades.
Even with the rough band conditions there is plenty
coming out of Aptos to keep the radio entertaining.
;-)
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release -- MCU Revision
2.13
wayne burdick
I usually refrain from posting here to keep from adding to the noise level,
but can't resist right now.
Re the new NR implementation - WOW!
Great job.
Rick
AI1V
wayne burdick wrote:
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.10 is now available. Full details
appear below and in the release notes.
Of AI1V
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:24 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 BETA Firmware Release -- MCU Revision 2.10
I usually refrain from posting here to keep from adding to the
noise level,
but can't resist right now.
Re the new NR implementation - WOW
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:08:19 -0700, wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.10 is now available. Full details
appear below and in the release notes.
The use of beta-test firmware is encouraged, but optional. Please send
any problem reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.10 is now available. Full details
appear below and in the release notes.
The use of beta-test firmware is encouraged, but optional. Please send
any problem reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For instructions on how to obtain and load beta firmware, please see:
25, 2008 12:08 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 BETA Firmware Release -- MCU Revision 2.10
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.10 is now available. Full details
appear below and in the release notes.
The use of beta-test firmware is encouraged, but optional. Please send
any problem
Tony
It's an IE thing, I just downloaded it with no problem -but there again
I use Firefox.
Try right clicking on it, or whatever Microsoft lets you do...
73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
Is it me (most likely) but I can't download k3fw2r02.zip. I get a message
Internet Explorer can't download
...I can't download k3fw2r02.zip.
The file is k3fw2r10.zip.
73,
Lyle KK7P
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] On Behalf Of wayne burdick
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:08 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 BETA Firmware Release -- MCU Revision 2.10
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.10 is now available. Full details
appear below and in the release notes.
The use of beta-test firmware
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:40 PM
To: N2TK
Cc: 'wayne burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 BETA Firmware Release -- MCU Revision 2.10
...I can't download k3fw2r02.zip.
The file is k3fw2r10.zip.
73,
Lyle KK7P
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 BETA Firmware Release -- MCU Revision 2.10
Tnx for the feedback. When I went to
ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/k3/firmware/beta
the file k3fw2r02.zip was listed. I then clicked on PAGE, then click
OPEN
FTP SITE IN WINDOWS EXPLORER. Then k3fw2r10.zip was listed. All is
okay
Well I have to say this implementation of NR for me is the best yet!
I listen to weak CW almost exclusively and it works really well.
Gone is the big reduction in audio when engaging NR and the CW signal really
pops out of the noise.
I like it!
Not sure if it was intended to address this
Well, that was quick! Thank you Lyle, Ken, and Ron. Now that you've
explained it to me, it really does make sense ... keep beta FW and
real FW separate. Off to the laptop to follow the instructions. That
often works, I've found.
73,
Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in
Channel hopping doesn't seem to offer anything useful to me. It would
have been nice if rotating VFO A not only displayed the frequency stored
but instantly assigned it to a VFO so the K3 could be used in the same
manner as a crystal controlled transceiver (without having to press M-V
again).
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From: Tom Doligalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:29 AM
To: 'Dave G4AON'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Revision 2.02
I think you'll find that Channel Hopping on the K3 will work just as you
wish try this:
1. Load your
Finally found time for an update (this one, 2.02), and the gain
discrepancy between the FIR and IIR filters seems to have gone away
somewhere in the recent flurry of releases - at least in this version
I can't detect any difference moving between 150 and 100 Hz filters
with FIR enabled.
Bob NW8L
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.02 is now available. It includes one
new feature (channel hopping, especially useful on 60 meters) and a
correction to CW/VOX behavior. Full details appear below.
For instructions on how to obtain and load beta firmware, please see:
Interesting, since MCU version 2.00 already,it is possible to use the
front panel buttons RX ant, PRE, ATT, XFIL AFX while in TX Mode!
The filter settings cannot be yet changed however.
Very useful addition, however no feedback is provided when a key is
pressed during TX - it all happens when
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.00 is now available. It includes one
new feature (transverter band data) and two improvements based on
feedback users sent us about revision 1.99. Full details appear below.
The use of beta-test firmware is encouraged, but optional. Please send
any problem
At 6/6/2008 07:25 PM, wayne burdick wrote:
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.00 is now available. It includes
one new feature (transverter band data) and two improvements based
on feedback users sent us about revision 1.99. Full details appear below.
The use of beta-test firmware is
Just sequential in this case.
73, Eric WA6HHQ
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Ed K1EP wrote:
Are the version numbers for the MCU, DSP, etc. revisions just
sequential (i.e. 2.00 followed 1.99), or does the change from 1 to
2 signify anything? I am assuming the former and not inferring any
major significance to the
K3 beta-test firmware revision 1.99 is now available. Highlights
include:
* Per-band power output setting (great for use with amps and
transverters)
* ANTIVOX gain increased
* Support for external amplifier ALC
* MIC up/down button functions
* Remote control (CAT) enhancements
*
Tom Childers, N5GE wrote:
In the Army they taught us to turn on the spot signal and tune the spot against
the received signal. When you hear the warbling stop, you are zero beat on the
RX signal.
That's easy if you are trying to tune against a continuous carrier, but
you are normally tuning
Dave,
I don't agree with your conclusion at all. It just takes practice. If
you're having trouble crank the filter width of the DSP to a narrow
setting and tune until the signal peaks. That will be close enough.
The extraneous signals from other stations and noise within wide filter
Brian, exactly !
If it is such a chore to zero beat a CW station, how did we ever do it when
we did not have all these aids. I do in fact ponder a bit in zeroing an SSB
station sometimes on a net freq when it seems to me he may be 10 cycles or so
off. But CW is just no sweat.
I am
I now have version 1.96/1/73 and still having this problem. I have just
finished building the XG1 test oscillator and have checked the S-meter
calibration. 1uV shows S3 and 50uV shows S9, sometimes S9+5 with both
1.78/1.58 and the 1.96/173 firmware versions. So the calibration doesn't
seem to be
Wayne,
On 080515 2:28 , wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Flash and EEPROM memory reads and writes are now verified, to
ensure reliability
of parameter storage. This includes PLL data tables, frequency
memories, etc.
Does this mean that the K3 will remember its last settings
When is this F/W due for non-Beta release?
73
Len/SM7BIC
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When is this F/W due for non-Beta release?
When we're satisified that it is good enough, it will move to the
production release file area. This type of move is not a date driven
target, but a performance and reliability driven target.
73,
Lyle KK7P
Hi all,
problem described below is now fixed. Tnx to Wayne for the support by
email! I loaded the newest beta without any problems. Did some tests
yesterday evening. VOX works again. Everything I use seems to be fine. I
guess I had some problems during the update which wasn't successful. I
are linked I'd like to see them both change then the
RIT control is setup to do coarse tuning. Wonder if
anyone can think of a reason why that would not be an
advantage?
[Elecraft] K3 BETA FIRMWARE RELEASE -- MCU rev 1.96
wayne burdick n6kr at elecraft.com
Wed May 14 20:28:09 EDT 2008
K3 beta
I loaded rev 1.94 yesterday evening. My main problem is the not working
VOX in 1.88. However it was more worse than with 1.88! Once set to VOX I
couldn't set it back to PTT. It switched the whole time to TX, no matter
what MIC gain settings I choosed. (Oh, I didn't tried the VOX gain, it
is
No problems here.
Just an off the wall thought, is the DC supply to your K3 OK ?
I had a similar symptoms with a loose PSU connection.
73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:28:11 +0200, Frank Lammel wrote:
I loaded rev 1.94 yesterday evening. My main problem is the not
working
VOX in 1.88.
On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:28:11 +0200, you wrote:
I loaded rev 1.94 yesterday evening. My main problem is the not working
VOX in 1.88. However it was more worse than with 1.88! Once set to VOX I
couldn't set it back to PTT. It switched the whole time to TX, no matter
what MIC gain settings I
No problems here with Beta 1.94, seems to work great, including Autospot.
This just keeps on getting better!
Hope I didn't speak too soon...
Thanks
wayne burdick wrote:
Thanks to your input on the last firmware release (1.88), we've made a
number of important improvements.
For the
Downgrade back to 1.88 made it work again. So I don't think it comes
from outside the box...
73
Frank, DD7ZT
Stewart Baker schrieb:
No problems here.
Just an off the wall thought, is the DC supply to your K3 OK ?
I had a similar symptoms with a loose PSU connection.
73
Stewart G3RXQ
On
Guys,
There is another way to solve the CW spot problem.
It's called get on the air and work CW. You will quickly develop the skill
of zero beating by ear.
You will find that most CW ops don't use any zero beating gizmo. Much
faster and easier to do it by ear.
Another thing. Narrow filter
On many TCVRs - if you are not in QSK mode - you can just press key
and hear pitch tone (sidetone) and tune signal to zero beat.
This is one reason I was opening KEY OUT port settings wish - to have
sidetone only without keying to TX by pressing key (in nonQSK), but it
is another story ;-)
On
When tuning by ear using a wide bandwidth filter, I have found that it
is easier if you go from the low tone side to high instead of high to
low. I think the higher octave(s) can sometimes confuse you when you
go from high to low.
Yes, it is pretty easy to get within 10 or 20 hz by ear. For most
Frank,
Try re-loading 1.94 also load the FPF and DSP at the same time. There
may have been a glitch in your front panel firmware load, or you may not
have checked the FPF load checkbox.
73,
Don W3FPR
Frank Lammel wrote:
I loaded rev 1.94 yesterday evening. My main problem is the not
: [Elecraft] K3 - beta firmware release notes - print
From the K3 utility I can go to HelpK3 Firmware Release notes and see the
release notes. But I can't print them. I get nothing when I right-click a
mouse. Is this normal?
I could not just click on the ftp info from the beta test firmware
I've been on the air for 25 years working 99% cw, and zero beating by
ear the whole time, thank you. Your condescending comments aren't
helpful in this case.
I appreciated the auto-spot feature since it saves time and was very
robust. *I* find that *this* cw op enjoyed using this particular zero
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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 BETA FIRMWARE RELEASE -- MCU rev 1.94
I've been on the air for 25 years working 99% cw
] K3 BETA FIRMWARE RELEASE -- MCU rev 1.94
I've been on the air for 25 years working 99% cw, and zero beating by
ear the whole time, thank you. Your condescending comments aren't
helpful in this case.
I appreciated the auto-spot feature since it saves time and was very
robust. *I* find
On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:25:07 -0600, NW8L wrote:
I've been on the air for 25 years working 99% cw, and zero beating by
ear the whole time, thank you. Your condescending comments aren't
helpful in this case.
I appreciated the auto-spot feature since it saves time and was very
robust. *I* find that
Greetings all,
After upgrading to f/w v1.94 and reading several comments on the list about
auto-zerobeat, I've deliberately used the feature on several CW nets with
all kinds of signals. My overall impression is that it works just fine, but
it seems as if the time it uses to zerobeat has
This type of response is why I think the K3 represents a low-risk investment.
Hurry up UPS! (Mine is on the way).
73, John W2XS
I'll restore it to its former glory, don't worry. But not until I get
back from Dayton.
73,
Wayne
N6KR
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:21:59 -0700, you wrote:
Good Morning Tom,
I can
zero beat to 1 or 2 Hz accuracy by ear.
How do you know you are within 1 or 2 Hz?
In the Army they taught us to turn on the spot signal and tune the spot against
the received signal. When you hear the warbling stop, you
Following are by-ear impressions:
The receive audio seems to have improved. Voices sound more natural
and clear.
NR audio has improved. I used to turn it off and on and keep
evaluating whether the noise reduction was worth the degradation in
audio quality. Now I can forget sometimes that
hi Frank,
Frank Lammel schrieb am 14 May 2008 um 9:28:
I loaded rev 1.94 yesterday evening. My main problem is the not working VOX
in 1.88. However it was more worse than with 1.88! Once set to VOX I
couldn't set it back to PTT. It switched the whole time to TX, no matter
what MIC gain
K3 beta-test firmware revision 1.96 is now available. As with other
beta releases, we encourage you to load it, but if you'd rather see how
things go for everyone else, *then* load it, we'll understand. Please
send any problem reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For release notes and instructions on
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but after a F/W upgrade, I
found that I need power down the K3, then re-press the power button.
Otherwise, some anomalies exist, including elevated headphone hiss and
slight clicks in the monitor when sending CW.I've now noticed this on at
Hi Elecrafters,
I have always loaded FW releases from the normal http:// Elecraft server.
To load the latest beta version, we are instructed to access an FTP server
(URL = ftp://ftp.elecraft...)
My Internet Explorer config does not allow me to access the FTP site.
What should I do ?
Thanks and
My IE version 6 works fine, Raymond, but sometimes it takes a minute
for their FTP server to respond. I thought that all recent IE
versions included FTP capability. But I use Firefox. I've found that
it's less annoying overall than IE. If nothing else works, maybe you
could download Firefox
Hallo,
My Internet Explorer config does not allow me to access the FTP site.
What should I do ?
There are many FTP clients available. If for some reason the poor
implementatioon of the Internet Exploder is causing problems, just use
another client.
On most Windows machines you should be
Raymond,
I believe you should have several choices: Change your IE
configuration; or download another browser such as Mozilla Firefox; or
use an FTP application to copy the files to a local folder on your
computer and point K3 Utility to that folder. I am certain these are
only 3 of the
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 BETA FIRMWARE RELEASE -- MCU rev 1.94
Unfortunately I see little improvement in the CW auto-spot feature,
broken in the last release. It is still much less accurate than the
original algorithm, and less consistent in it's behavior.
Try this - tune in a good steady (S6
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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:53 PM
To: wayne burdick
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 BETA FIRMWARE RELEASE -- MCU rev 1.94
Unfortunately I see little improvement in the CW auto-spot feature,
broken
From the K3 utility I can go to HelpK3 Firmware Release notes and see the
release notes. But I can't print them. I get nothing when I right-click a
mouse. Is this normal?
I could not just click on the ftp info from the beta test firmware
instructions. I had to cut and paste the ftp info to the
On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:56:27 -0400, Joe, W4TV wrote:
Bob,
Try setting the threshold to 2 or 3 (CWT Hold). With a fixed
threshold, it seems very close to the previous performance on
all but the strongest signals (and even the old FW was a bit
touchy with S9+20 signals).
73,
... Joe,
I'm getting the same result as Bob. No matter how I set the threshold, 2,3,
Automatic, etc, I cannot get it to perform as well as the old 1.78 version
which was just amazing.
Windy KM5Q
Well, I have, and found that the lower the threshold, the less stable.
Using the beta version, with THR = 2
And FireFox has a nice Propagation plugin.
Randy
K8RDD
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From: Dave Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 BETA FIRMWARE RELEASE -- MCU rev 1.9
My IE version 6 works fine, Raymond
Something has happened to the S-meter in this release. All of a sudden I have
signals that are 60dB over S9. I am sure there is no more than 6-10dB
between S9+10 and S9+60. This is also evident when backing off the RF gain.
I have not made any CONFIG changes in order to use the new absolute
Thanks to your input on the last firmware release (1.88), we've made a
number of important improvements.
For the first time, we're posting new firmware as beta. Upgrading is
optional: if you want to minimize your risk, you might want to wait
until we've blessed it as a normal production
Unfortunately I see little improvement in the CW auto-spot feature,
broken in the last release. It is still much less accurate than the
original algorithm, and less consistent in it's behavior.
Try this - tune in a good steady (S6 or S7) cw signal. Set tuning to
FINE, enable CWT and then press
you punch it
multiple times.
Steve Ellington
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To: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 BETA FIRMWARE RELEASE
The Easter egg in v1.94 Beta is more sidetone volume!
Or did I miss this in the release notes?
73,
john WA1ABI
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