Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-10 Thread gt-i
Jim, you are right, too often we mean counterpoise and say ground. Hopefully Peter can start doing his experiments based on our wisdom and I'm curios what will work ok for him. 73 Gernot DF5RF Am 09.06.2020 um 22:42 schrieb Jim Brown: On 6/9/2020 1:21 PM, g...@gmx.net wrote: anywhere then you e

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-09 Thread Lyn Norstad
or me on fresh water. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Kaletsch Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 3:47 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-09 Thread Pete Lascell
practical, dipole will be horizontal and about 16' long. Pete W4WWQ - Original Message - From: Peter Kaletsch To: , Sent: 6/9/2020 4:29:01 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible ___

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-09 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/9/2020 1:21 PM, g...@gmx.net wrote: anywhere then you either need a long vertical plus good ground as mentioned already WRONG. An end-fed wire needs a COUNTERPOISE, not a connection to mother earth. A counterpoise is a low resistance conductor that provides a return for the current and t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-09 Thread Peter Kaletsch
look into for sure! Best regards Peter -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: g...@gmx.net [mailto:g...@gmx.net] Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 22:21 An: Peter Kaletsch ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible Hello Peter, I think it depen

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-09 Thread Peter Kaletsch
No chance hihihihihi :-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: W2xj [mailto:w...@w2xj.net] Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 22:18 An: Peter Kaletsch Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible marry a ham! :-) Sent from my iPad > On Jun 9, 2

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-09 Thread gt-i
Hello Peter, I think it depends on your willingnes to sacrify the shape of your boat. If you want to get heard anywhere then you either need a long vertical plus good ground as mentioned already, or a dipole as high above sea level as possible. The dipole may be sloped but either the feedpoint

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-09 Thread W2xj
.@w2xj.net] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 18:34 > An: Peter Kaletsch > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible > > i think your engineering challenge is primarily balancing esthetics against > performance. > >

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-09 Thread Peter Kaletsch
dio on board). > > Further answer are highly welcomed > > > 73, Peter > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Kurt Pawlikowski [mailto:ku...@pinrod.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 03:16 > An: Peter Kaletsch ; > elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Betreff: Re: [

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-09 Thread W2xj
t; > Further answer are highly welcomed > > > 73, Peter > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Kurt Pawlikowski [mailto:ku...@pinrod.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 03:16 > An: Peter Kaletsch ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-09 Thread Peter Kaletsch
stuff to do, before focusing on ham radio on board). Further answer are highly welcomed 73, Peter -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Kurt Pawlikowski [mailto:ku...@pinrod.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 03:16 An: Peter Kaletsch ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-08 Thread Barry
a few schemes in both brackish and saltwater. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "John Langdon" To: "j...@audiosystemsgroup.com" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Sent: 6/8/2020 9:09:51 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-08 Thread Barry
qth.net" Sent: 6/8/2020 5:47:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible I am also very interested in answers to this question, please include me with suggestions if you email direct outside of the reflector. I have a 15.25 meter motorboat on salt water )Puget Sound.) Than

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-08 Thread Kurt Pawlikowski
Peter,     In general, any vertical works lots better with more radials. As fresh water is a fairly poor conductor, the more the merrier! Unfortunately, because most boats are wooden/fiberglass, what you can add helps. I don't know if they have to be 1/4 wavelength (I've read yes and some say

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-08 Thread John Langdon
ginal Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 7:18 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible On 6/8/2020 1:47 PM, Peter Kaletsch wrote: > But how do I get a reasonably effective earth? Y

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-08 Thread W2xj
t; Von: W2xj [mailto:w...@w2xj.net] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 00:55 > An: Peter Kaletsch > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible > > try and AX1 with a tripod mount mounted to the boat and then one or two > radi

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-08 Thread Barry
t: 6/8/2020 4:47:08 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible Hello fellows; You are my last hope as I cannot imagine that I am the only one in the world who wants to try that. For many months I have been trying in vain to get tips on how to operate a K3 well on a small 13 m

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-08 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/8/2020 1:47 PM, Peter Kaletsch wrote: But how do I get a reasonably effective earth? You don't need an "earth," you need a counterpoise. VE0JS, who has sailed around the world four times on a 37-ft sail boat, loads the backstay against a sintered bronze plate in the water. I suggest that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-08 Thread W2xj
try and AX1 with a tripod mount mounted to the boat and then one or two radials over the hull and into the water. Another member expressed interest in operating over salt water when additional ground is much less important. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 8, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Peter Kaletsch wrot

Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-08 Thread M. Bottles via Elecraft
I am also very interested in answers to this question, please include me with suggestions if you email direct outside of the reflector. I have a 15.25 meter motorboat on salt water )Puget Sound.) Thank you, Kim - K7IM k...@icloud.com > On Jun 8, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Peter Kaletsch wrote: > > Hel

[Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

2020-06-08 Thread Peter Kaletsch
Hello fellows; You are my last hope as I cannot imagine that I am the only one in the world who wants to try that. For many months I have been trying in vain to get tips on how to operate a K3 well on a small 13 meter motor yacht. I am talking about fresh water usage (Lake Garda in Italy), not