Lowly K2, Tom??
For me the jury's still out: my nice analog K2 or the very flexible and
feature-rich digital K3.
I'll probably never decide, just as I won't bother to decide whether 80 or
40 meters is a better band. They're just different, that's all. They do
different things better.
As for
Steve Ellington wrote:
Brett:
How about this: The scope is already defined in the K3's display. All we are
waiting for is a firmware update to activate it. I wish!
I can tell you that this, unfortunately, is impossible. The K3's display isn't
bit-mapped
-- it has a fixed set of things that
] LP PAN
On that screen shot is that + and - about 20Khz? Shouldn't the system
be able to pull off 192Khz total width? It would also be really slick
if the waterfall was labeled with absolute values rather than relative
ones.
Honestly the only reason I haven't purchased an LP-PAN
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From: Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.com
To: Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org
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Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN
On that screen shot is that + and - about 20Khz
Maarten van Rossum wrote:
I too would like to express my desire for a build-in / stand alone unit
for
the K3. One were I can hook up a monitor, a key board and maybe even a
mouse
if I wanted too and do all the modes that are available. And also very
important, it should be more or less
Vic Rosenthal wrote on Thursday, July 23, 2009 at 7:14 AM:
I too admit that I've watched all of these LPPans go by at attractive
prices because --
much as I want a panoramic display -- I am waiting for the Elecraft
product. And I also
hope it will be a standalone device that does not
Silence before the storm. I never expected the 144 MHz transverter module
for the K3 but it appeared out of the blue.
Who knows, maybe they are working hard on the new kit as we speak to
surprise us all in the near future... (a guy can dream, can't he?)
Maarten
PD2R
2009/7/23 rfenab...@gmail.com
...since for most people the benefit is being able to point and click to
QSY, how would that work using a separate display?
How about touch screen?
Best regards,
Dick - KA5KKT
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How about touch screen?
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Some are HAM fisted types and may find that feature a little difficult to use
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Julian, G4ILO wrote:
I disagree. I think the folks at Elecraft are capable of developing
the software required to do point and click.
In fact I would not purchase one if I couldn't do that.
Tom, N5GE
Maarten van Rossum wrote:
I too would like to express my desire for a build-in /
I have to agree with the idea it must stand alone and have a point and click
functionality otherwise it's a toy too similar to ICOM.
I have had a few ICOMS with their version of a bandscope and they left me
suitably unimpressed and therefore I would be leaving my money in the bank and
looking
If, as we are lead to believe that Aptos are going to release a stand alone box
to match the K3, I would hope that it will provide a clear choice in such a way
that we are able to have our cake and eat it too.
1. Matching box
2. External monitor
3. PC interface
4. USB mouse support
5. 192Khz or
I think having all these features can only be economically implemented
with an external computer.
For me, I only wish for a real panoramic display in color with
adjustable bandwidth. Having the ability to see the band offers such
a significant advantage that I feel quite blind without it.
Click with what?
Plug a mouse/keyboard into the panadapter?
That's going to be some pretty fancy firmware programming and real
expensive.
I don't think there's any way for Elecraft to produce a standalone
panadapter that can compete with the LP-PAN/Sound card/Computer combo
either performance
I'm sure that Elecraft (or any other company) can design and produce just
about whatever is technologically feasible. However, the issue boils down
to at what cost, and then what market is out there to recover the costs.
Yes, it will be great if Elecraft does come out with a Panadapter add
Bah. There are tons of embedded PC boards that essentially offer the
functionality and I/O of an entire PC on a board the size of a credit
card. Here's a site that lists a few.
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/Teeny-weeny-Linux-SBCs/
73
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Joe KB8AP
On Jul 23,
Dick Williams wrote:
Yes, you do have to have a computer; but what ham out there does not own a
computer (especially amateurs that have found there niche in the hobby
were they want and need the capabilities of the K3)? If you can afford a
K3 (and the cost of a add on panadapter), I
My wants are basic ... I'm just interested in seeing the band,
or a portion thereof.
Point and click doesn't interest me ... I traded off a hamfest-won
Flex 3000 a couple of months ago..
Aptos has my order for the display, what-ever it turns out to be. (:-))
73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
Stover rksto...@mchsi.com
To: N5GE n...@n5ge.com,
Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:27:38 -0500
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN
Click with what?
Plug a mouse/keyboard into the panadapter?
That's going to be some pretty fancy firmware programming and real
performance and
flexibility instead of redundant hardware I won't be very impressed.
73,
Dave AB7E
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Sent: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:37:41 -0600
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN and Point and Click
Yes, you do
This all would be nice, but as I want just 1 keyboard and 1 mouse I also
would like to have the possibility to run all my apps on this box.
N1MM
HRD
Several propagation and logging progams.
Etc etc.
Hmmm, this sounds like a complete computer?
I think I keep it with my LP-PAN and spend the money
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Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN and Point and Click
Actually, you can buy a very competent refurbished computer (with
warranty), a nice
and forget
what you were aiming at!
Steve
N4LQ
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Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN
I fully agree. Even more
? Are there
that many K3 owners out there that use their rig like an FT-101?
73,
Dave AB7E
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Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:27:38 -0500
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN
Click
After reconsidering I came to the conclusion that I just want to be able to
see a portion of the band I'm on.
Sure, point and click would be nice but if I really want that, I'll go with
the all ready existing panadapter or something like Flexradio.
Yes, I have a PC in my shack and it is used for
I'm sure Elecraft will make their panadapter as powerful as possible
for the
price -- but it's pretty tough to beat the utility-to-price ratio of
a $300
netbook + $495 SDR-IQ unit -- a
I suspect you expect too much from a $300 netbook thingy.
But isn't it amazing that the price of the
Honestly I'm perfectly fine with a computer solution but I want the
same amount of power and flexibility no matter if I'm sitting in front
of Windows or Linux or even Mac for that matter! I give high praise
to Elecraft for keeping software update utilities for all 3 OSes and
they are all kept up
On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Ken Kopp wrote:
Aptos has my order for the display, what-ever it turns out to be.
(:-))
So, how did you give Aptos your order, since it isn't on the price
list yet. Do I just send an email to Madeline with my private Swiss
bank account number and
And you need a panadapter for that?
Dave AB7E
--Original Mail--
From: Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.com
I want my radio to perform like a radio so that I can
take it to the top of a hill and make it work sans computer. I've
already had a blast taking it up to a few mountain
How about a variable rate tuning knob with a built in push switch. I am
thinking of the tuning system on the old (1970s) Cubic/Swan Astro 150.
This was a variable rate spring loaded rotary control that speeds up the
tuning rate as it is turned further clockwise or counter-clockwise from
can turn out to be a nice poor man's SpecAn in a pinch.
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And you
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To: Dick Williams k8...@mho.com; Elecraft Reflector
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN and Point and Click
Dick Williams wrote:
Yes, you do have to have a computer; but what ham out there does not own
, July 21, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] LP PAN
I have noticed a lot of LP Panadaapters for sale. I am wondering why.
Do they work well? I have one but I haven't been able to get it working
yet.
Dave N1IX
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are still a project in progress.
AD4C
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits..
-- Albert Einstein
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN
To: N1IX n
this cantankerous
hodgepodge of little black boxes, cables and weird software but until then
I'll keep on using it.
Steve
N4LQ
n...@carolina.rr.com
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Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:20 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] LP
this cantankerous
hodgepodge of little black boxes, cables and weird software but until then
I'll keep on using it.
Steve
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n...@carolina.rr.com
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:20 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] LP PAN
of quick calls
to Larry answered those.
It works really great and well worth the time and expense of installing it.
Dick K8ZTT
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From: N1IX n...@n1ix.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] LP PAN
I have noticed a lot
Linux users can install quisk-lppan-k3. It's a far simpler user interface
than the PowerSDR software. We're hoping to port it to Windows as well
some day. It can control the K3 directly, or work through fldigi, which
is a digimode program that itself runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux.
On that screen shot is that + and - about 20Khz? Shouldn't the system
be able to pull off 192Khz total width? It would also be really slick
if the waterfall was labeled with absolute values rather than relative
ones.
Honestly the only reason I haven't purchased an LP-PAN is because all
the
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN
On that screen shot is that + and - about 20Khz? Shouldn't the system
be able to pull off 192Khz total width? It would also be really slick
if the waterfall was labeled with absolute values rather
Brett,
Thanks for pointing it out. It was an old screen shot. I updated it to
a more recent one as the package does provide frequency control.
As for the bandwidth of the display, it's purely a function of the sound
card. On Linux, the EMU-0202 sound device supports 44.1 KHz unless it's
Well after all this I have decided not to use the LP Pan adapter setup
with my K3.
So with that it is for sale. The complete setup,
LP-PAN adapter
External Sound Card E-MU0202
cables for K3
software
ANYONE INTERESTED $250
Bob K4HA
k...@nc.rr.com
919-828-1786 H
919-215-2018 C
I have noticed a lot of LP Panadaapters for sale. I am wondering why.
Do they work well? I have one but I haven't been able to get it working yet.
Dave N1IX
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Perhaps elecraft is developing its own pandapter for the K3? This will
bring the K3 in front of IC-7800 and the SDRs
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] LP PAN
I have noticed a lot
LP-PAN Serial # 328 E-MU 0202 For Sale, Email Address.on QRZ Call Sign W8CDJ.
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Charles D Jordan
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I have LP-Pan serial # 328 And a E-MU 0202 sound card for sale.Email is on QRZ
Call Sign W8CDJ
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To: k...@bosscher.org; 'Elecraft Reflector' elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [LP-PAN] Re: K3 Overload from WYFR
Thanks for the tip. I disconnected the LP-Pan and didn't notice any
Lyle: Yes I do believe the LP-PAN is being overloaded but still, I do hear that
buckshot modulation from WYFR up to about 7010kHz on the K3 so it too is being
affected although not as much.
N4LQ Steve
n...@carolina.rr.com
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From: Lyle Johnson
To: Steve
An AM station can easily produce buckshot to 40-50 kcs's out. The
reason you don't hear it very often in the US, is that on the standard
AM band, the AM stations are very bandwidth limited. The NRSC curve is
rather tight, and every AM station has to certify it is within that mask
every 14
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To: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com; 'Elecraft Reflector'
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [LP-PAN] Re: K3 Overload from WYFR
An AM station can easily produce
Well, they are trying to SPREAD god's word.
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Is the lp pan and muadio still available?
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Is the lp pan and muadio still available?
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thanks folks my LP-PAN is sold
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i have an LP-PAN with an EMU-0202 sound card for sale this is a factory
built unit I'll accept a fair offer it cost $350 total for everything
thanksSam
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I have a new LP-Pan (Serial 549) and an M-Audio Audiophile 2496
card for sale. Both as new. Decided this is not for me.
$245.00 shipped in the US. Please contact me off list if
interested.
Thanks
Bob W6VY
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For Sale, Factory Assembled LP Pan $175. Price includes shipping conus.
Please reply off the list.
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Happy New Year!
Need cash for 6m EME DXpedition! For sale: unused factory built LP-PAN
Serial # 0254. Shipped Priority Mail in the USA - $225. VY 73, Lance
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Hi Jeff
Be interested to know your pc set-up, as I am in the market for that as well.
David
G3UNA
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Go for it Dave. I also had a SDR1000 for years and replaced
Dave -
You'll need a sufficiently powerful PC, and be willing to load and configure
several other programs on it. My PC, a five year old Dell 4550 (2.5 GHz
CPU, 1GB RAM is only semi-useful for other functions when I've got all the
LP-PAN related software running, and that's with an internal
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:53:22 -0500, you wrote:
Dave -
You'll need a sufficiently powerful PC, and be willing to load and configure
several other programs on it. My PC, a five year old Dell 4550 (2.5 GHz
CPU, 1GB RAM is only semi-useful for other functions when I've got all the
LP-PAN related
LP-Bridge should be just as fast, and supports more functions in PowerSDR
than does HRD, including automatic IF offset tracking of 5-pole filters and
DSP shift. You may have had a config issue, an early version or an LP-Bridge
/ K3 firmware version mismatch.
73,
Larry N8LP
Tom Childers,
I am thinking about getting a LP-PAN for my K3. I wonder what others think
about it? I had a SDR-1000 and really liked the panadapter feature. If you have
one please let me know what you think.
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Subject: [Elecraft] LP-PAN
I am thinking about getting a LP-PAN for my K3. I wonder what others think
about it? I had a SDR
No experience of other panoramic displays but I think the LP-Pan is
superb with the K3!
73,Deni
F5VJC
K3 325
DAVID LEDUC wrote:
I am thinking about getting a LP-PAN for my K3. I wonder what others
think about it? I had a SDR-1000 and really liked the panadapter
feature. If you have one
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:45:28 -0500, you wrote:
I am thinking about getting a LP-PAN for my K3. I wonder what others think
about it? I had a SDR-1000 and really liked the panadapter feature. If you
have one please let me know what you think.
Thanks
Dave N1IX
Had the Kenwood 950 rigs with the
I LOVE my K3 / LP-PAN combination; as mush as I like the K3, the one
thing that I felt was missing was the panadapter, and it works very well.
Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
73 de Dave, W5SV
DAVID LEDUC wrote:
I am thinking about getting a LP-PAN for my K3. I wonder what others
think
Decided to sell my LP-Pan and EMU-0202 setup.
$240 complete shipped CONUS.
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73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
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The LP-Pan/EMU 202 is sold. Thanks to those who responded so quickly.
Wow that was quick. Guess I under-priced it. :)
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73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
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On Wed Sep 10 13:22 , Greg - AB7R sent:
Decided to sell my LP-Pan and EMU-0202 setup.
$240 complete
HK
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videoDate: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:11:06 +
Larry,Thank you for your imput. The bottom line for me is v 0.92 PowerSDR IF
Stage and LP-Bridge. Anxiously waiting. Happily you always come
through.Howard..K2HK
HK
I've documented the current state of the K3 panadapter
at wb8yqj - see it on the wiki at:
http://tinyurl.com/4836rs
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/LP-PAN_Quick_Start
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You must be
http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html
For anyone considering N8LP's LP-PAN, here are a few observations using a
beta unit:
LP-PAN works very well on the K3, but you must be careful in choosing a
sound card. So far, the best results seem to be with the M-Audio Audiophile
2496 and E-MU 0202.
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