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>Actually, using
>2 knobs makes me feel more like a "real ham radio operator" since I'm
>actually using 2 knobs plus my brain to make an adjustment LOL!
>
>- Keith N1AS -
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Well, Keith... the next thing you will be telling me is you prefer a
straight key or
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:16:16 -0700, Keith N1AS wrote:
>I don't disagree at all Drew. I would fancy having the RIT / XIT knob
>operate as a CW Pitch control so one knob could vary all required
>parameters in real time. Until that day comes, I'm thinking I can get
>most of the functionality using
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:58:27 -0700, Brett Howard wrote:
>I understand that but I'm not so sure that both adjustment while hearing the
>pitch and adjustment while hearing a signal is needed. Why not just
>adjustment while hearing sigs?
>
Brett,
You got me... if while adjusting the pitch we coul
uly 29, 2008 11:18 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:41:24 -0700, Keith N1AS wrote:
>
>
>Which brings us to the "old fashioned" way to adjust the pitch of the RX
>signal - RIT. It keeps the TX
I don't disagree at all Drew. I would fancy having the RIT / XIT knob
operate as a CW Pitch control so one knob could vary all required
parameters in real time. Until that day comes, I'm thinking I can get
most of the functionality using 2 knobs (RIT & Shift). Actually, using
2 knobs makes me fe
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:41:24 -0700, Keith N1AS wrote:
>
>
>Which brings us to the "old fashioned" way to adjust the pitch of the RX
>signal - RIT. It keeps the TX on the same frequency and as long as you
>don't adjust it too far, the signal will stay in the passband. Better
>yet, combine it with
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:21 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
Brett,
I'm not suggesting that offset pitch and sidetone pitch be different.
They are the same.
I'm suggesting that sometimes you want to adjust this pitch by
l
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Why would you want to vary the signal pitch? Because a different pitch
can provide better copy under different reception condtions. But it's
pretty hard to tell what that optimum pitch might be without listening
to the signal as you adjust it, right?
Brett,
I'm not suggesting that offset pitch and sidetone pitch be different.
They are the same.
I'm suggesting that sometimes you want to adjust this pitch by
listening to the sidetone and sometimes you want to adjust it by
listening to the received signal. Currently you can't hear the signal
w
onality to make it
even harder for people to do things right. :)
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>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:21:17 -0500, Nick, WA5BDU wrote:
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>>>
>>>Adjust pitch without hearing it?
Jim Brown wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:42:17 -0400, n4lq wrote:
Using a set of computer speakers which have their own gain control
Most speakers with built-in electronics have RFI problems!
Indeed they do. If you have a GSM phone, each text message is announced with a
"rattle rattle rattl
eve Ellington
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:21:17 -0500, Nick, WA5BDU wrote:
Adjust pitch without hearing it? I can't
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:21:17 -0500, Nick, WA5BDU wrote:
>
>Adjust pitch without hearing it? I can't imagine that.
>
I wasn't suggesting that the ability to adjust sidetone pitch be
eliminated. Merely that we have the additional ability to
interactively adjust the pitch of the received signal. Y
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:42:17 -0400, n4lq wrote:
>Using a set of computer speakers which have their own gain control
Most speakers with built-in electronics have RFI problems!
73,
Jim K9YC
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I hadn't noticed that they didn't track until this thread, so I guess
status quo is OK with
I hadn't noticed that they didn't track until this thread, so I guess
status quo is OK with me. Just now, I found that in swapping between
speaker and phones, I do not feel the need to adjust the sidetone level.
While transmitting ... well, it can be disconcerting to start
transmitting full Q
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:03:27 -0700, "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and "forget" it, since we
>use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal.
>
>Whether or not the sidetone level tracks the audio gain is of little
>conc
I've been very happy with the AGC-NR on the K3, so turning off AGC is
starting to become a last resort for me. And the configurable AGC
parameters give you a lot of options, not "one AGC fits all". (I do
adjust the RF gain even with AGC on.)
I also give signal reports corresponding to the s-meter
Dear Ron,
Hear ! Hear !
You have said it so very well. My kudos !
TR, WB6TMY
At 11:03 AM 7/28/2008 -0700, you wrote:
Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and "forget" it, since we
use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal.
Whether or not the sidetone level track
Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and "forget" it, since we
use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal.
Whether or not the sidetone level tracks the audio gain is of little
concern.
We turn off the AGC, so its characteristics are of no consequence.
We give *real*
ather than have the level controlled by the AF Gain!
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
I don't adjust the sidetone level very often. Not sure I'd like
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:11 -0600, "Bob Cunnings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Sidetone level should be independently adjustable IMO.
>
>I use headphones. When operating QSK, if I've run up the AF gain to
>hear a weak station, I don't want to be blasted by high sidetone level
>when I start sending
ot the way
you prefer.
~Brett (KC7OTG)
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:1
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:11 -0600, "Bob Cunnings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Folks,
After reading all the posts to date on this topic, I have decided what my
opinion is:
Go ahead and change it, but if you do, please add another feature that allows
myself and others who would surely not like it a
happy. Oh..heck...I'm already
happy but this gives us something to discuss.
Steve Ellington
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Sidetone level should be independently adjustable IMO.
I use headphones. When operating QSK, if I've run up the AF gain to
hear a weak station, I don't want to be blasted by high sidetone level
when I start sending, as would be the case if sidetone level tracked
the AF gain. I don't want to have
nce the AF gain
is way up to copy that weak signal.
Enjoy your walk. I'm jealous. I have to stay at my desk and keep
working ... :-)
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I too am a CW operator but I greatly prefer the sidetone NOT track with
the AF gain control. I w
rather than trying to turn the sidetone up.
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Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
I have to agree with Steve on this. I'm a CW operator.
I
I have to agree with Steve on this. I'm a CW operator.
I would like to have the sidetone track volume, while
still being able to adjust the mix ratio, preferably
while working CW.
After FD this year one fellow asked me an excellent
question: "What don't you like about the K3?"
I had been answering
uly 28, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
I don't adjust the sidetone level very often. Not sure I'd like to
have it vary with the AF Gain. I think I like having it as a reference
audio level. Mine is set at 25.
What I would like is the option to
I don't adjust the sidetone level very often. Not sure I'd like to
have it vary with the AF Gain. I think I like having it as a reference
audio level. Mine is set at 25.
What I would like is the option to adjust the PITCH without hearing
the sidetone. In other words, listening to a weak signal I
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In a recent message, n4lq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ...
CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they
are about the same level.
...
Many of us with Omni
n4lq wrote:
CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they
are about the same level.
IMO absolutely not. Sidetone level should have a separate level adjust.
73 Jim SM2EKM
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In a recent message, n4lq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ...
CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they
are about the same level.
...
Many of us with Omni VI's performed a simple mod that allowed sidetone
to track with the AF gain.
Yes, Steve, but on here we're talking
CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they are
about the same level. Why would anyone want a fixed sidetone level? Changing
from speaker to headphones requires readjustment of the sidetone level. When
the xyl turns on the washing machine, I have to turn up the AF gai
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