Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-09 Thread Robert G Strickland
Bob... Yes, I have used your comments to infuse a new energy into the business of "speeding up." At the moment, still using 5-letter groups and Rufz, I start with the "dot" letters, e/h/i/s with U & V, at around 20wpm and spends several trial at that task. Then, the full alphabet at 30wpm with

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-08 Thread Bob
I believe that to be true. Years ago would ask if people played any instruments when teaching for the Novice ticket and if they did they seemed to pick it up faster. I attributed it to recognition or rhythm patterns. Two examples are Q is "here comes the bride" and V as from Beethoven's 5th s

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-07 Thread Robert Harmon
I noticed that musically inclined folks seem to learn morse quicker. I wonder why that is ? BTW I hope we havent been on this non elecraft topic too long on the forum ! 73, Bob K6UJ On 12/7/15 8:44 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: Absolutely there are differences in how peoples brains are wired. My bro

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-07 Thread Robert Harmon
Robert, Human nature being what it is all of us put what we think is beneficial "time in the saddle" on the air but we become complacent and migrate back to easier copy and we are kidding ourselves and not really exercising our copying speed abilities. Ask me how I know this :-) Time in the

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-07 Thread Kevin Stover
Absolutely there are differences in how peoples brains are wired. My brother got his license 15 years ago. He was a music major and is a band director, all of the rigs in his shack have the side tone set to 440 Hz, A above middle C. It's been a musical tuning standard for ages. Once he got the

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-07 Thread Robert G Strickland
Don... For sure, individual differences make for a big difference, both in the rate of learning and the appropriateness of any one approach. I think we all agree that "stretching your current copying speed" is the only way to get faster. That's certainly my experience. I think my curiosity co

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Robert, What is missing is that each person learns at a different level and pace. Each of us has our brains "wired differently". In other words, what will work well for one person does not mean that it will work well for all. The quickest way to increasing CW speed is to get on the air and sta

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-07 Thread Robert G Strickland
Bob's approach to increasing speed once a basic level of cw proficiency has been achieved speak directly to my original thoughts on the subject. Using a 5-letter group of random letters as the practice message, then my question, in terms of Bob's approach, could be stated as follows. Which is t

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-06 Thread Ken
I agree with you there Bob. I know my CW speed jumped when I worked the high level CW nets (EAN) and suddenly HAD to copy fast and accurate! I think in a few weeks I went from 20 to 29 wpm, my limit for printing each character. There was no way I was going to keep asking for fills. It w

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-06 Thread Peter Chamalian
...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Shearer Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:31 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast Sounds great. It should work. I know I need to practice... I have another problem How do I put

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: [OT] increasing CW copy speed: practice slow -v- practice fast

2015-12-06 Thread Stephen Shearer
Sounds great. It should work. I know I need to practice... I have another problem How do I put this... Sloppy sending? I notice (particularly in contests) that many ops run the characters together. I can't copy and my KX3 can't copy. Good keyers add the proper spacing between characte