Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing, Stepgen, USB, etc.

2011-01-21 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Colin Kingsbury wrote: > Since I started posting my Arduino-EMC interface work I'm getting an > email every week or so from someone asking how to use this to do step > generation. I've generally given the WC Fields "go away kid, you > bother me" reply but at some point my day-job "if the users k

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing, Stepgen, USB, etc.

2011-01-16 Thread Ron Bean
Kirk Wallace writes: >It may be that an Arduino could do this, but my impression is that there >aren't enough AVR pins coming out to where one could get to them. The >price of the smaller Arduino's seems to fit my plan though. The RepRap and MakerBot use a different AVR chip that has a dozen mor

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing, Stepgen, USB, etc.

2011-01-15 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > I would like to closely reproduce the popular FPGA signal generators, > but move the cost down into the low cost hobby area. My FPGAs cost me $12, if I bought them in larger quantity, I could get them for even less. The board, and especially the connectors are what costs the

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing, Stepgen, USB, etc.

2011-01-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 17:54 -0500, Colin Kingsbury wrote: ... snip > IMHO, there's a prize here if you can make machine latency a non-issue > and make USB a usable interface **FOR LOW-END MACHINES**. These days I > have thousands of dollars invested in all my machinery, but when I got > started, it

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing, Stepgen, USB, etc.

2011-01-15 Thread Colin Kingsbury
> From: Kirk Wallace > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing, Stepgen, USB, etc. > To: EMC developers > Message-ID: <1295129227.8603.60.camel@kw-ws> > Content-Type: text/plain > > The following is what I have been working on. > > I would like to c

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing, Stepgen, USB, etc.

2011-01-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 14:14 -0500, Colin Kingsbury wrote: > Since I started posting my Arduino-EMC interface work I'm getting an > email every week or so from someone asking how to use this to do step > generation. I've generally given the WC Fields "go away kid, you > bother me" reply but at some

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing, Stepgen, USB, etc.

2011-01-15 Thread Jon Elson
Lawrence Glaister wrote: > Hi Colin, > One idea that might be worth pursuing is to build a timing regenerator. > By this I mean a chip that would accept quadrature output signals (step > type 2) from an EMC box with lousy latency numbers. The chip would then > re-time the signals limiting the accel

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing, Stepgen, USB, etc.

2011-01-15 Thread Lawrence Glaister
Hi Colin, One idea that might be worth pursuing is to build a timing regenerator. By this I mean a chip that would accept quadrature output signals (step type 2) from an EMC box with lousy latency numbers. The chip would then re-time the signals limiting the acceleration to some programmable amount

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing, Stepgen, USB, etc.

2011-01-15 Thread Colin Kingsbury
Since I started posting my Arduino-EMC interface work I'm getting an email every week or so from someone asking how to use this to do step generation. I've generally given the WC Fields "go away kid, you bother me" reply but at some point my day-job "if the users keep asking for it maybe I should l

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-21 Thread Jonathan George
> On 12/21/2010 2:46 AM, Dave wrote: > > That is some sophisticated smoker control.. :-) > > > > Seems to me that the hard part is getting the thermocouple inputs into > > the PC without going bankrupt. > > > > Did you see this ?? > > > > http://www.circuitcellar.com/library/print/0503/moyer154/3.h

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-21 Thread Dave
What about using some chips like these for the TC interface and then tie these into a Pokeys via the Pokeys analog inputs. http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/AD594_595.pdf If you use EMC2 and keep the Gcode interface you could sell it as the ideal programmable smoker for CN

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-20 Thread Dave
That is some sophisticated smoker control.. :-) Seems to me that the hard part is getting the thermocouple inputs into the PC without going bankrupt. Did you see this ?? http://www.circuitcellar.com/library/print/0503/moyer154/3.htm Perhaps something like this but instead tied an Arduino or a

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-20 Thread Jon Elson
Jonathan George wrote: > > However, I'm not sold on the idea of using EMC to control it. I would > think that a good python interface for the PC would be adequate, why > require in installation of a realtime patched kernel for controlling a > smoker? I suppose you could run it in simulation mode

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-20 Thread Jonathan George
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > John Thornton wrote: > > One recipe might look like this > > Cabinet temperature 120F, Circulation Fan On, Vent 100% open time 1:45 > > add smoke generator heat time 0:20 > > close vent to 50% > > ramp cabinet temperature from 120F to 145F over

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-20 Thread Jon Elson
John Thornton wrote: > One recipe might look like this > Cabinet temperature 120F, Circulation Fan On, Vent 100% open time 1:45 > add smoke generator heat time 0:20 > close vent to 50% > ramp cabinet temperature from 120F to 145F over a 2 hour period > smoke generator off > cabinet temperature 160F

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-20 Thread John Thornton
Jon, It's not just a simple temperature control... It needs some smarts, that's why ATM I'm using a PLC with a dual thermocouple input and a touch screen to and several SSR's perform the tasks. I need two or more temperature probes (thermocouples not thermisters) one controls the cabinet tempe

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-20 Thread Jon Elson
Dave wrote: > Depends on what you want to do. If John wants to run some type of > temperature vs time profile then something smart makes sense. > > In that case, buy a ramp-and-soak temperature programmer on eBay, and add a thermocouple and a power solid state relay. I did this for the toa

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread John Thornton
Yep. http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/ Brian wrote: > Seriously!? A PLC, touchscreen controlled smoker?! Thats badass... > > Brian > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:41 PM, John Thornton wrote: > >> On the PC side of the control would be the smarts to control >> tempera

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 06:11 -0600, John Thornton wrote: > Kirk, > > Do you think something like this could be used to control the > temperature of a smoker cabinet with 500 watt heater? I've been wanting > to build something that is very cost effective that could be plugged > into a laptop via

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread Colin Kingsbury
Grr... Meant to say, strip out the g-code interpretation and let EMC take care of that and you might end up with a pretty nice little system. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Colin Kingsbury wrote: > Here is an open-source Arduino/AVR-based 3-axis step/dir controller that > takes G-code inputs d

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread Colin Kingsbury
Here is an open-source Arduino/AVR-based 3-axis step/dir controller that takes G-code inputs directly: http://dank.bengler.no/-/page/show/5470_grbl?ref=mst And the source: https://github.com/simen/grbl Strip out the g-code interpretation and let EMC take care of that ---

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread Brian
Seriously!? A PLC, touchscreen controlled smoker?! Thats badass... Brian On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:41 PM, John Thornton wrote: > On the PC side of the control would be the smarts to control > temperatures and have various recipes for different temperature profiles. > > These scenarios are comm

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread John Thornton
On the PC side of the control would be the smarts to control temperatures and have various recipes for different temperature profiles. These scenarios are common when smoking Control the cabinet temperature only. Control the cabinet temperature and when the internal temperature of the meat reac

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread Dave
Depends on what you want to do. If John wants to run some type of temperature vs time profile then something smart makes sense. If you just want to maintain temp - there are some very cheap thermostats available that can handle power circuits. The least expensive I have found is a water heate

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread Jon Elson
John Thornton wrote: > Kirk, > > Do you think something like this could be used to control the > temperature of a smoker cabinet with 500 watt heater? I've been wanting > to build something that is very cost effective that could be plugged > into a laptop via usb or something and control the smo

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread andy pugh
On 19 December 2010 03:14, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Basically, $10 for an AVR processor, $15 for a programmer, $10 for a > breadboard and some odd bits, then learn a bit of C, steal some free > bits of code off the Internet, and now I have an EMC2 compatible fast > PWM generator and a lot more that

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread Ron Bean
Kirk Wallace writes: >By the way, I got the ATmega32 version working, so I have eight bits of >input now, plus a bunch of pins left over. Four PWM channels are >advertised but they aren't fully independent of each other and share >pins with other features, so the plot thickens. You might want t

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-19 Thread John Thornton
Kirk, Do you think something like this could be used to control the temperature of a smoker cabinet with 500 watt heater? I've been wanting to build something that is very cost effective that could be plugged into a laptop via usb or something and control the smoker heater... Being electrical

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2010-12-18 at 20:56 -0500, Ron Bean wrote: > andy pugh writes: > > >On 18 December 2010 20:41, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >> > >> Am I on acid? > > > >Considering Mesa's prices, quite possibly. > > That depends on whether price is the primary consideration. > Sometimes hacking is its own re

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-18 Thread Ron Bean
andy pugh writes: >On 18 December 2010 20:41, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> >> Am I on acid? > >Considering Mesa's prices, quite possibly. That depends on whether price is the primary consideration. Sometimes hacking is its own reward. ---

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 December 2010 20:41, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > Am I on acid? Considering Mesa's prices, quite possibly. -- atp "Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" -- Lotusphere 2011 Regist

[Emc-developers] AVR Brain Barfing

2010-12-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
I have been thinking about the parallel port being too slow as a signal generator. FPGA cards are really fast, but they are way too hard (for me at least) to hack (,too closed). So I was wondering, what would be a very small next step up from the parallel port? I played with an ATtiny and got it to