Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-05-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/01/2021 06:24 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 03:53, Jon Elson wrote: Most of the work in Machinekit was to install Robert Ellenberg's trajectory planner and then remove as much NML as possible to make parts of LinuxCNC work across the net. The big problem with NML is it uses

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-05-01 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 03:53, Jon Elson wrote: > Most of the work in Machinekit was to install Robert > Ellenberg's trajectory planner and then remove as much NML > as possible to make parts of LinuxCNC work across the net. > The big problem with NML is it uses a shared memory region I don't thin

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/30/2021 08:16 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: And unless you intend to support a platform that while it might be capable of it, has virtually no common i/o hardware with any other platform. Machinekit is not bound to the ARM architecture in any way, It happens to be easily installed on the Beagl

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 30 April 2021 14:47:00 Alan Condit wrote: > > Kirk, > > I think that one of the ways to re-ignite LinuxCNC is to pull some of > the changes that were done in Machinekit back into LinuxCNC. However, > some (maybe all) of those changes were done with no thought to release > versioning. T

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/30/2021 01:47 PM, Alan Condit wrote: I think that one of the ways to re-ignite LinuxCNC is to pull some of the changes that were done in Machinekit back into LinuxCNC. However, some (maybe all) of those changes were done with no thought to release versioning. That being said, those change

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-30 Thread Alan Condit
> > > Kirk, I think that one of the ways to re-ignite LinuxCNC is to pull some of the changes that were done in Machinekit back into LinuxCNC. However, some (maybe all) of those changes were done with no thought to release versioning. That being said, those changes were important to some of the

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-29 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
April 2021 12:20 PM To: EMC developers Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays This looks like what I (think) I want. It is not free but not terribly expensive if it is usable on this project. https://www.sgvsarc.com/demo.htm thanks Stuart On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 3:39 PM Matt Shaver

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
Thinking out loud, I seem to recall Graphviz being developed to automate function diagrams for HAL so that one could see how the HAL components where connected for a given hal file. Graphviz, can also be seen in the LinuxCNC documentation. Off-hand, there seems to be two different functions, 1)

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/29/2021 07:06 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I can hardly wait until AI (the real magic) lets us speak in our native tongue and have AI generate error free code in real time. It should be very soon now. "Very soon", in the geological scale of time? Yes, sure. In our lifetimes (in the scale

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 April 2021 08:06:11 Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Hello TJP, > > I certainly could exercise it but at my level of expertise I would not > be able to determine how much (or not) help it could be. > It seems to me an experienced C/C++ programmer would be able to wield > the tool in a far

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Hello TJP, I certainly could exercise it but at my level of expertise I would not be able to determine how much (or not) help it could be. It seems to me an experienced C/C++ programmer would be able to wield the tool in a far more effective manner if it is determined to be the "magic". I also as

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Hello Stuart Crystal Flow and Crystal Revs do look good. There's a free trial, could you exercise it? How could it be used by the Linuxcnc Programmers as a group? I'd gladly put a 100$ in the pot if it make a tool that demystified the hairball of emc. Tho, I cant see what would be purchase

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Andy, thanks for the code notes link Stuart On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 9:20 PM Stuart Stevenson wrote: > This looks like what I (think) I want. It is not free but not terribly > expensive if it is usable on this project. > > https://www.sgvsarc.com/demo.htm > > thanks > Stuart > > > On Wed, Apr 28

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
This looks like what I (think) I want. It is not free but not terribly expensive if it is usable on this project. https://www.sgvsarc.com/demo.htm thanks Stuart On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 3:39 PM Matt Shaver wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:19:21 -0500 > Jon Elson wrote: > > > This would be a gr

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Matt Shaver
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:19:21 -0500 Jon Elson wrote: > This would be a great tool, maybe somebody has written such > a tool. I haven't looked in a long time, but before 'egypt' was about the closest thing I ever saw. But a long time has passed... Thanks, Matt ___

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Matt Shaver
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 16:27:35 +0100 andy pugh wrote: > Have you found this (simplistic, out of date, stuff?) > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/code/code-notes.html Yep! I need a project that will get me back into this again! Thanks, Matt ___ Emc

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Then a db search by subject to minimize the size of the chart (answer). Sometimes I debug an NCL macro by introducing an error(check). Running it against the database and finding the error line. Thanks Stuart On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:28 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 12:33, Matt

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 12:33, Matt Shaver wrote: > > I think what Stuart wants is a diagram of the data structures in > Linuxcnc that visually represents their scope and that shows what code > accesses them. Yes, that would be great. I wish that I had it too. I still get somewhat lost between int

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/28/2021 06:08 AM, Matt Shaver wrote: I think what Stuart wants is a diagram of the data structures in Linuxcnc that visually represents their scope and that shows what code accesses them. Yes, that would be lovely, but would likely be the size of a street map of Seoul, S. Korea! LinuxCNC i

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
How to ask the question is very important! Maybe it hasn't been done (or published) as it becomes more confusing as the arrows get drawn. Maybe a picture like Matt's example but with arrows restricted to a 'current' project so the flow is specific. In areas of work/life I am familiar with I can p

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Matt Shaver
I think what Stuart wants is a diagram of the data structures in Linuxcnc that visually represents their scope and that shows what code accesses them. He would probably also like some sort of "call map" that illustrates program execution paths. I have always wanted something like this too! I've nev

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Isn't a block of memory locations for a pointer to use just an array? I would like to have something to hang on the wall to help me visualize the information structure. On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 5:20 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 05:09, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > > Has anyone de

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 05:09, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Has anyone developed or printed a chart of arrays to use for > visualization during LinuxCNC development? I don't even know what a chart of arrays is. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for t

[Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-27 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Has anyone developed or printed a chart of arrays to use for visualization during LinuxCNC development? thanks Stuart -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close