Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-08 Thread Mario .
Don't forget to check the PDF documentation first since that is the one that comes with the EMC2 system and check what else is missing or not according to the reality there. On 7/9/08, Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Radek wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 12:37:07PM -0400, Stephen

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-08 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 12:37:07PM -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > >>You could always save the offsets in other vars, like #1001..#1009 = >>#5211..#5219 when you touch off. >>Then, when you do the G92.1 to reset, just move to 0,0,0 (,0,0,0), and issue >>G92 X#1001 Y#1002

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-08 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 12:37:07PM -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > > You could always save the offsets in other vars, like #1001..#1009 = > #5211..#5219 when you touch off. > Then, when you do the G92.1 to reset, just move to 0,0,0 (,0,0,0), and issue > G92 X#1001 Y#1002 Z#1003 (maybe negativ

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-08 Thread Jon Elson
Kenneth Lerman wrote: > The way I would have done that is to write a gcode subroutine that took > arguments of the center X and center Y points. (That's probably because > I never did learn to use offsets -- other than through Axis). > > If I were doing it today, I would also make sure that my g

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-08 Thread John Kasunich
Jon Elson wrote: > Chris Radek wrote: >> I see what you're trying to do now. I still suggest that G92 is the >> way to do it. Say for clarity's sake you have your fan program in a >> subroutine called O100 and it cuts around 0,0. You want a fan every >> six inches. You have used touch-off to se

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-08 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Jon Elson wrote: >Chris Radek wrote: > > >>[snip] >> >>G92.1 (clear G92 offset to go back to the normal G54) >>M2 >> >> >Well, this will work, but it upsets the alignment of the G54 >system, and you can't get that restored with a G54. So, I kind >of like my scheme to set the G55 system re

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-08 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 10:19:44PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > >>Interesting how this comes up every July! Well, no question the >>touch-off menu in Axis works correctly, but I'm trying to figure >>out how to do it from within a G-code program. I will have to >>experiment w

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-08 Thread Kenneth Lerman
The way I would have done that is to write a gcode subroutine that took arguments of the center X and center Y points. (That's probably because I never did learn to use offsets -- other than through Axis). If I were doing it today, I would also make sure that my gcode subroutine is general enou

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Ray Henry
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 23:07 -0500, Chris Radek wrote: > I see what you're trying to do now. Yep. Jon's program offsets from whatever 0,0 it used for the first one. What I can't for the life of me figure out is how Jon accomplished that by setting g54 to that location and expected the other coord

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 10:19:44PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > > Interesting how this comes up every July! Well, no question the > touch-off menu in Axis works correctly, but I'm trying to figure > out how to do it from within a G-code program. I will have to > experiment with it some more next

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 02:22:48PM -0500, Chris Radek wrote: > >>Deja vu! You must run this gcode once every two years! > > > Err 2008 - 2007 = ?? > > Every summer then. I hope that old link helps. Interesting how this comes up every July! Well, no question the touch-of

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Jon Elson
Ray Henry wrote: > Hi Jon > > I've never seen a case where changing the value of a g54 offset would > affect any of the other offset systems. No, I wasn't meaning that, but that the other systems would be relative to the G54 system at the time the G55, etc. system was set up. Tom Kramer's des

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I currently have machine tools with Fanuc controls that use the G54 in both fashions. Depending on how the builder set the parameters one machine uses the G54 as a common offset. The common offset changes the position of every other offset by the value in the G54 registers. Another ma

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 02:22:48PM -0500, Chris Radek wrote: > > Deja vu! You must run this gcode once every two years! Err 2008 - 2007 = ?? Every summer then. I hope that old link helps. - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 11:56:28AM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > > Any suggestions would be welcome. Deja vu! You must run this gcode once every two years! http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/2451/focus=2597 --

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Ray Henry
Hi Jon I've never seen a case where changing the value of a g54 offset would affect any of the other offset systems. Tom Kramer's description of these ten was clear that they were all independent from each other because each of them referenced absolute machine zero. I remember this behavior on

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Jon Elson
Ray Henry wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 09:33 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: > >>Jon Elson wrote: >> >> >>>The other thing is I used to barely understand the G10 L2 Px >>>behavior before, and it seems to have changed. I think in the >>>EMC1 past, all G55 - G59.3 work offsets were relative to the

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Jon Elson
John Kasunich wrote: > Jon Elson wrote: > > >>The other thing is I used to barely understand the G10 L2 Px >>behavior before, and it seems to have changed. I think in the >>EMC1 past, all G55 - G59.3 work offsets were relative to the G54 >>system, > > > That seems rather insane. G54 is no

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread Ray Henry
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 09:33 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: > Jon Elson wrote: > > > The other thing is I used to barely understand the G10 L2 Px > > behavior before, and it seems to have changed. I think in the > > EMC1 past, all G55 - G59.3 work offsets were relative to the G54 > > system, > >

Re: [Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-07 Thread John Kasunich
Jon Elson wrote: > The other thing is I used to barely understand the G10 L2 Px > behavior before, and it seems to have changed. I think in the > EMC1 past, all G55 - G59.3 work offsets were relative to the G54 > system, That seems rather insane. G54 is no different than G55 or any of the o

[Emc-developers] quirks using EMC

2008-07-06 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, all, I've been doing some serious machining this weekend, and had two things pop up. One was that when making long traverses under manual jog with the jog buttons, on the Axis interface, the jog got "stuck on", like the old problem with hitting too many jog buttons at one time. Tappin