Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-02 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Gary: > I have a small double insulated wall wart type power supply. 120 Vac > in, 12 Vdc out has a symbol of a house with an arrow pointing inside the house. What is that symbol and whence did it come. The house with an arrow pointing into the house means "for indoor use." >From

Re: EMCD + RTTED - OJEC publication consolidated list of harmonised standards

2003-01-02 Thread ggars...@us.tuv.com
Thanks for the tip. DGE has since posted a note, apparently on Dec 17th, at http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/ne approach/standardization/harmstds/reflist/emc.html : "Important notice: The references of EN 12895:2000 and EN 13309:2000 were published in OJ C 190 of 2002-08-10. These reference

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-02 Thread John Barnes
Gary, The "house" symbol means indoor use only. John Barnes KS4GL, NCE, ESDC Eng, SM IEEE dBi Corporation http://www.dbicorporation.com/ This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pst

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-02 Thread Ron Pickard
Hi Gary, For the symbol with the arrow pointing into the house, I would say that the wall wart is intended to be used indoors, not outdoors. As to the symbols origin, I have no idea. But, you might want to check out ISO7000. There's many, many symbols in my 1989 copy (many I'm sure that you'd re

New OJEC publication of lists of harmonized standards for LVD & ATEX directives

2003-01-02 Thread ggars...@us.tuv.com
Happy New Year to you all. Long live the listserver! Fast on the heels of the EMC & RTTE updates (see Helge's posting in December), yet another Xmas present from the the Enterprise Directorate-General of the European Commission. LVD: Commission communication in the framework of the implementatio

strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-02 Thread Gary McInturff
I have a small double insulated wall wart type power supply. 120 Vac in, 12 Vdc out has a symbol of a house with an arrow pointing inside the house. What is that symbol and whence did it come. This one is going to be tough to describe, and is on a little wireless device.

Re: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services

2003-01-02 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Bill Lyons wrote (in <97...@lyons.demon.co.uk>) about 'Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services' on Thu, 2 Jan 2003: >As an alternative, if sadly EMC-PSTC does go this retrograde way, we >could all simply move to the sci.engr.electrical.compliance (s.e.e.c) >newsgroup

RE: Multiple CPU Options

2003-01-02 Thread Peters, Michael
Sam, It is specified in ANSI C63.4 and CISPR 22 to perform initial emissions testing to determine worst-case configuration and then to perform final emissions testing. The differences in setup can include cable arrangement, EUT/peripheral arrangement and modes of operation. Reducing the number

RE: Multiple CPU Options

2003-01-02 Thread Juhasz, John (IndSys, GE Interlogix)
Not having had a product with this variability, I can't offer much from experience. However, I would think that not all tests have to be performed at all frequencies. Conducted and Radiated emissions and immunity definitely - board layout vs.operating speed vs.wide frequency range of these tests.

comment worth a further look

2003-01-02 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Luke: > This won't work. If you want to look at how badly online forums work, look at the IEE website. Unfortunately, this requires a membership and a login. I really would like to know more about the success of web-based forums. Best regards, Rich

The listserver WILL continue.

2003-01-02 Thread Rich Nute
Thank you for all the comments on the listserver- based service versus the web-based service. The IEEE listserver WILL continue. I apologize for not being clear on this point. We started with listserver service. However, the listserver does not satisfy all of the needs of our subscribers

Re: Death of the listserver

2003-01-02 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Jim: Thanks for your message. > The EMC Laboratory that I work for (Acme Testing Company in Acme, > Washington) has the quietest open-field Emissions Sites (OATS) within a 1000 > mile radius. We planned it that way. The village of Acme has a total > population of under 100 peopl

Multiple CPU Options

2003-01-02 Thread Sam Wismer
Group, Happy Holidays. Thank you for your responses to my last post concerning AC Power sources. I got a lot of good information. Next question: Client has a product that he is offering with various CPU types and speeds(5 to be exact) and is pursuing CE compliance. That is the only differenc

proposed EMC Directive

2003-01-02 Thread boconn...@t-yuden.com
Good People Is there a formal definition for "End User", as found in the proposal for the new EMC Directive ( 2002/0306(COD) )? Would a component power supply be considered an "apparatus" under this proposal? thanks much. R/S, Brian O'Connell Taiyo Yuden (USA), Inc.

RE: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services

2003-01-02 Thread b...@lyons.demon.co.uk
In message Nick Williams writes: > > I missed the original post which generated this thread in the last > few days. Please could someone send it to me directly? Happy New Year, Nick. It was attached to e.g. Luke Turnbull's post. Copy below. > I too would be very concerned to see the forum ch

RE: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services

2003-01-02 Thread Gordon,Ian
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Luke I sympathise with people with dial up connections and would be sorry to see the loss of these contributors. However, there is a Yahoo group called EMC-PSTC that was formed in 1998. Is there any way that this could be used? I have attached a link.

RE: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services

2003-01-02 Thread Nick Williams
I missed the original post which generated this thread in the last few days. Please could someone send it to me directly? I too would be very concerned to see the forum changed from its current e-mail delivery format, to the extent that if necessary (and subject to it being possible - it's not

Re: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services

2003-01-02 Thread Luke Turnbull
This won't work. If you want to look at how badly online forums work, look at the IEE website. Maybe one of the group can set up a list server elsewhere if the IEEE is sure it wants to stop the service. Luke Turnbull. >>> Rich Nute 12/31/02 06:19pm >>> Effective today, we are replacing our w

New Proposal for change of EU EMC Directive

2003-01-02 Thread Helge Knudsen
Happy New Year to you all. Proposal for a DIRECTIVE OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to electromagnetic compatibility is available at: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/com/pdf/2002/com2002_0759en01.pdf Best regards Helge

Re: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services

2003-01-02 Thread Cortland Richmond
I shall be sorry to lose access to the daily interchange among the EMC professionals who've made this list worth subscribing to. Provision of a link in e-mails is not even a poor substitute for those of us who wish to use off-line readers. This is reminiscent, in its own inexorable way, to the cr

RE: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services

2003-01-02 Thread Garry Hojan
I would have to agree with the last few posts. My business partner and I are adding forums on our new site as more of a courtesy for those that are interested. When we were deciding on this, we thought about approaching the IEEE and ask them to have us host their forums/listserv. Of course this w

RE: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services

2003-01-02 Thread Anton (Tony) Nikolassy
Without the list server, you will lose a massive following. This includes myself. Tony Nikolassy T-Tech Engineering Labs