Re: [PSES] Applicability of Conducted Immunity testing of Standalone Systems interconnection cabling

Military products are outside the scope of the emc directive in the uk and always has been. The UK approval process has not changed since Brexit. However a lot of contracts placed by the MOD include the requirements of civil standards as a general statement. In this case it is not appropriate as

Re: [PSES] Brexit and impact on offical langugages

AllI think ireland uses English as it's official language. If this is the case languages will not change.Russ Beattie Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:57, Doug Powell wrote: All, With March 29 approaching, I've seen plenty of discussion on the impact of Brexit.  H

[PSES] Seeking Contract/Freelance/Permanent Test/Approvals/QMS Position

of any permanent positions… I’m based in Hampshire UK but can travel. Test Lab sitter anyone? Best Regards, Russell Russell Bradbeer russell.bradb...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc

Re: [PSES] EMC Required?

Scott   I have also had the same experience with a similar simple circuit going into oscillation on a vehicle and causing all sorts of problems - at around the 60 to 70 MHz range.   Russ Beattie From: Derek Walton To: don_borow...@selinc.com; emc-p...@ieee.or

emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org

I was under the impression that a manufactuer was only allowed to contact one NB for each specific product - this I thought was in the directive itself. This was put in especially to avoid differing opinions. It was to stop manufacturers shopping for a favourable opinion.   I can not understand

RE:More CE mark issues

In my experience of UK MOD contracts, there is always a clause which states that equipment supplied must meet all relevent commercial requirements in addition to the specific military std. This always made the EU CE marking a requirement of the contract. If you are working as a sub contractor you w

EMC & Safety Surveillance Agencies

and R&TTE. Thanks, Russell. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: ma

Fwd: Reassessment of Equipment

Russell Beattie wrote:Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Russell Beattie Subject: Reassessment of Equipment To: johnjuh...@ge-interlogix.com John With regard to the reassessment of your equipment which was first assessed several years ago. Quoting directly from the EMC

100kV ESD Immunity Testing

Can anybody recommend equipment available for hire in the UK, or a UK test laboratory that facilitates *low energy* (not lightning simulators) ESD air discharge immunity testing to 100kV? Thanks in anticipation. Russell. --- This message is from the

CE Mark on Product Packaging

Does anybody know why the placing of the CE mark on product packaging is compulsory under the RTTE Directive, yet optional under the EMC and LVD Directives? Or am I wrong? Only curious, Russell. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product

IEEE C37.90.1-1989

Please help! I have a requirement to test a product in accordance with IEEE C37.90.1-1989 "IEEE Standard Surge Withstand Capability (SWC) Tests for Protective Relays and Relay Systems". Basically it is a Fast Burst Transient Test & a oscillatory wave test. I am not at all familiar with this

Modem Approval for China

both least cost and least time options, and hearing from agencies or consultancies (preferably UK based) able to provide a turn-key service. Having the modem manufactured in China *may* be an option, though the volumes aren't huge. Thanks in anticipation. Russell. ---

Screened Room Ambient Scans

BuV/m @ 1GHz. Particularly at 30MHz and 1GHz this is less than 10dBuV/m below the EN55022 cl. B limits. Does this (high?) noise floor affect the final measurements? Thanks in anticipation. Russell. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product S

EMC Emissions Safety Margins

? Thanks in anticipation for your views and advice. Russell. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription

ITE Class A vs Class B Emissions

Certainly for the EU, the product specific standards take precedence over the Generic standards. Therefore if you are applying a harmonised product specific standard which allows a Class A limit for a 'commercial' piece of equipment, that is the limit which should be applied. Somewhere in the

RE: Australian power cable requirements.

Cameron, I had a similar situation some time ago with an internal cable and it had to do with the insulation thickness. The SJT cord was only rated 300V, and the insulation thickness did not meet the European standard. We changed to a 600V cord, which was accepted. Ray Russell r...@gastmfg.com

RE: UL listing for foreign manufacturers

Philippines. The quarterly inspection is at least $750. That's a big chunk of money to add to one product. Now they also have annual fees for each location. You can find the UL offices at their website wwwul.com Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -Original Message- From: Chris Ma

Coniferous Wood in Packaging

dle it, it lands on my desk. Here is one of those issues. We discussed it some time ago as it applies to China, but it looks like Europe may take some action, and I thought some of you may find this useful. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com > NEW PUBLICATION NOTICE > > New pub

RE: Overcurrent Protection: One or Both Sides?

Hi John, I agree there are many different mains wiring configurations, I was merely pointing out the case where I believe a 2 pole circuit breaker is required. How do you handle 230V equipment marketed worldwide, that may encounter any number of these configurations? Ray Russell ray_russ

RE: Overcurrent Protection: One or Both Sides?

required on both lines. In addition, the 2 pole circuit breaker method provides a suitable 2 pole disconnect. Good Luck, Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -Original Message- From: brian_kunde [mailto:brian_ku...@leco.com] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:32 PM To: emc-pstc Subject

RE: product cert question

d may not meet the product standard. I have suffered many delays due to a component that does not have an approval, and is not discovered until the end of a product cycle. This scenario has either caused redesign, or additional testing at our costs. Good Luck, Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmf

Japan

hanks for your assistance, Ray Russell Regulatory Compliance Engineer --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee

RE: UL1950/UL2601 Thermals

Hi Dan, We use UL 1450 Motor Operated Air Compressors, and here is the definition of constant temperatures: 46.1.11 With reference to those tests that are to be continued until constant temperatures are attained, thermal equilibrium is considered to exist when three successive readings taken at

RE: Temperature Meters

Hi Joe, I've been using the Fluke Hydra Data Bucket for a couple of years, and really like it. It is a little pricey but I think its worth it. It has 20 channels, and you can also configure each channel for volts or ohms. We have added a current to voltage probe, so we can record the current too.

EMC - Declaration of Incorporation?

other directives? Thank you once again for your assistance, Ray Russell Regulatory Compliance Engineer --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to

RE: China Packaging/Crating Requirements

Greetings Martin, It seems that there is a problem in the US and China with using Conifer (pine) type of pallets. Here is a URL that goes into a little more detail Ray http://www.skralaw.com/Articles/china.htm -Original Message- From: marti...@pebio.com [mailto:marti...@pebio.com] Sent

Mesh Screen for 950

Seasons Greetings! We are having some trouble with the bottom openings in a piece of equipment, and I'm wondering if you might be able to provide a source for the screen mentioned in UL1950 Sec 4.4.6. Thank you and I hope you all have a great Holiday! Ray Russell Regulatory Compl

RE: Compressed Air. Pneumatics, Safety requirements

Greetings Israel, A standard that we use is EN 1012-1 Compressors and Vacuum Pumps - Safety Requirements. Depending on the size of the equipment, the Pressure Directive or Pressure Equipment Directive may also apply. Regards, Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -Original Message

Manuals

ing that a product is approved to US and European standards, can someone recommend a guide that would help to define additional manual requirements for US and Europe? Thank you, Ray Russell Regulatory Compliance Engineer - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To c

RE: US Circuit breaker requirements

Hi Paul, I could not put my finger on the paragraph that spells it out in the NEC, (380-4 has the 6 1/2 foot requirement) but I just installed a switch myself and the local inspector required it to be a min of 18" off of the ground. Ray ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -Original Message- From:

RE: EN60335 verses EN61010-1

Hi Brian,   As Luis points out, the 2 standards are directed at different applications. However, I believe most of the tests required are the same. But I'm not sure that the manufacturer of the pump would apply the same tests that I would seek to apply. So I would look at EN61010-1 and see what te

RE: IEC Mark 5172

Hello Jasmine, I believe the reference is to IEC 417, Graphic Symbols, and No. 5172 refers to the Class II symbol for a double insulated system. It is the symbol with a box inside a box. There is a site that has some of these symbols, but my paranoid IS administrator has blocked our internet acce

RE: Rockwell Modem, need info.?

Hi George, I my experience, I have used the UL Yellow books to verify UL recognition and to determine which standards it is recognized to. If I still have trouble, I have called UL direct, and they have always been helpful. Ray rayruss...@gastmfg.com -Original Message- From: sparaci..

RE: Flammable Liquids and Vapors

with that standard.   Good Luck,   Ray Russell   gastmfg.com           -Original Message- From: Brian At Work [mailto:bkundew...@qtm.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 11:49 AM To: IEEE Group Subject: Flamible Liquids and Vapors Hello Group,   Our company is working on a small laboratory d

RE: Safety Incident Reporting

Hi Richard, I recommend you check out the Consumer Product Safety Commission at http://www.cpsc.gov/ BTW Paul Hill's book is a great resource. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -Original Message- From: WOODS, RICHARD [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 19

RE: Clearance and surge

Dear James, First, UL has reduced spacings for motors less than 178 mm diameter. Additionally, I see a footnote that for film coated wire that is rigidly supported and held in place, spacings may be reduced to 2.4 mm. Good Luck, Ray ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -Original Message- From: ja

RE: IEC 417 No 5017 Labels

This bounced yesterday, so I am resending it. Ray -Original Message- From: Russell, Ray Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 8:04 AM To: 'distefa...@panametrics.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Cc: cleme...@panametrics.com Subject: RE: IEC 417 No 5017 Labels We have purchased

Power Factor

small electronic instrument? Are the standards the same in the US and Europe and other countries? What are the standards? Do they apply to all equipment? Thanks in advance for any information. Best Regards, -- Russell Anderson Campbell Scien

RE: Country of origin

countries origin. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -Original Message- From: kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com [mailto:kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:39 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Country of origin Dear groupe, This question is not a safety or EMC issue b

Enclosure ratings IP vs NEMA

Greetings, I hope everyone had a happy holiday. I am looking for a comparison of IEC 60529 IP ratings for enclosures to the NEMA equivalents. Thank you for your assistance, Ray Russell Regulatory Compliance Engineer ray_russ...@gastmfg.com - This message is coming from the emc

US/ HAR line Cord

available. Does anyone know why UL stepped back away from accepting EU cords? Thank you, Ray Russell Regulatory Compliance Engineer ray_russ...@gastmfg.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the

RE: Leakage Current Measurements

most UL standards. We use a Fluke 77 as the measurement instrument. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gast.com -Original Message- From: me...@aol.com [mailto:me...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 7:37 AM To: ri...@sdd.hp.com; jo...@exchange.scotland.ncr.com Cc: pe...@itl.co.il; emc-p...@ieee

Capacitors Dry or Wet?

Happy Holidays, I'm working on a project that will ship to Japan and requires a motor starting capacitor. Would any one know if there are requirements that dictate whether a dry or wet type cap are required for Japan? How about the rest of the world? Thank you for your assistance, Ray Ru

A label for a Tipping Hazard

d or where there might be a symbol on the net, could you please let me know? Thank you for your assistance, Ray Russell Regulatory Compliance Engineer rayruss...@gastmfg.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord..

RE: Plastics Cert Documentation

Greetings, At a former company, we were able to have the plastic vendor mold the information right into the part or put in on the outside of the shipping carton. All of the agencies that we delt with accepted this. The molded in information also helped in some of the recycling requirements for Ger

RE: Poisonous and Flammable Gases

Greetings Bob, I do not see much reference to this situation under EN 61010. I believe that at some point in time, the customer has to take some responsibility for the process that they use. But the manufacture of the piece of Test equipment still has some "duty to warn of any foreseen hazards". F

RE: Language labeling requirements

appropriate international symbols are always required on any warning labels. I also understand that in most high tech environments English is a common language, so it would be acceptable. I believe it boils down to your customer requirements. Regards, Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com

Energized Winding Tester

Greetings, I recall a recent message looking for a replacement for an Energized Winding Tester: AVO Biddle, Model 577500. If someone found some information, would you please pass it on to me? Thank you, Ray Russell Regulatory Compliance Engineer ray_russ...@gastmfg.com - This message

RE: New Argentina Product Requirements

Dear Richard, I understand that UL is working on an MOU with Argentina. With that in mind, you might want to contact the Technical Assistance to Exporters office at your UL location. Good Luck, Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion

RE: Indicator color standard

Dear Francis, I have used IEC 73 (BS EN 60073) Specification for coding of indicating devices and actuators by colours and supplementary means. BS EN 60204 Safety of machinery- Electrical equipment of machines also has a section on indicating lights. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com

RE: EN60950

Global Engineering Documents also has a great selection. Phone 1 800 854 7179 FAX (303) 397 2740 Web http://global.ihs.com/ Regards, Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -- From: Dan Mitchell[SMTP:dmitch...@eoscorp.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 1998 5:22 PM To: 'emc

RE: Re[2]: Are all these agencies really necessary?

ith the CE marking, that the push for something like the key mark was put aside in the EU. Thanks, Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -- From: ron_pick...@hypercom.com[SMTP:ron_pick...@hypercom.com] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 1998 5:27 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org; dmitch...@eoscorp.c

RE: Agency approvals on components in CE

standards are not interchangeable. And under the LVD, EU Harmonized standards must be used where available. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -- From: POWELL, DOUG[SMTP:do...@ftc2.aei.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 3:37 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Agency

RE: Requirements for Mexico

Greetings Nick, I have found some good information on Mexico through the US NAFTA website. The URL is: http://www.itaiep.doc.gov/nafta Look at document 9000 for an overview of Mexico's standard system. Ray ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -- From: Nick Williams[SMTP:n...@conformance.co.uk]

TABD

a great weekend! Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com

RE: weatherproof mains connection

cable and not SJT. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -- From: jeanmarie.vandenbul...@barco.com[SMTP:jeanmarie.vandenbul...@barco.com ] Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 10:09 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: weatherproof mains connection Does anybody know if IEC 320 / C13 - C14

AC Mains Termination

Greetings, We sell some larger motor driven units to Europe, and are evaluating them to EN 60204. I believe that Sec 5.1 specifies that if a line cord is not included then a terminal block has to be provided. Although my experience has seen several applications that have loose leads inside of

RE: Low Voltage directive and IEC1010

. Good Luck, Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -- From: Gary Labadie[SMTP:glaba...@acromag.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 6:42 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Low Voltage directive and IEC1010 Does anyone have a suggestion on the quickest way to meet the Low Voltage directive

Previous EMC-PSTC Topics

http://www.rcic.com/default.htm. Check out the Virtual Conference Hall and do a search on EMC-PSTC. Thanks to Tom Bao and the others that keep this site going. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com

ISO Standard for SI units (Metric Directive)

forward the standard number that spells out the metric units of measurements? BTW I sent an email to NIST (from the information supplied by this group) and here was Mr. McCracken's response: Mr. Russell, At this time no meeting is scheduled to discuss the EU metric-only directive. T

EMC Directive and Small DC motors

justifiable reason to test this product? Thank you for your consideration, any thoughts would be appreciated. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com

Pressure Directive

Dear PSTC group, A recent change in employers has brought a whole new series of questions. Could some one please provide me with some details on the pressure directive, and maybe some sources for information? Thanks for your input, Ray Russell Gast Corportaion ray_russ...@gast.com

Re[2]: OSHA Requirement

Dear Bill, Some time ago I was working as a field service Engineer for a company that had a motor repair shop. We were also required to have an emergency shut off for each bench. I think that a disconnect switch within 6 feet of the bench was accepted. The problem

Re: Symbols and IEC 27

Hello Joe, I have seen some products marked with a CE mark and red and white labels. I believe the red and white is a carry over from the US OHSA type labels. However, my research has uncovered only 2 options for Europe: Black on Yellow or molding. Here

Electrical Enclosure

Greetings, We have a piece of lab equipment that uses 2kV to accelerate electrons down a long tube. The top of the tube extends above the cabinet of the product. This would not be too bad, except standard BNC connectors are used to connect the HV to the top of the

Re: Car Adaptor need CE Mark?

Mike, I've seen 2 different scenarios with this type of product from a safety standpoint. 1. If the adapter coverts to 115 Vac, then UL applied the standard for Recreational Vehicle power converters, UL458. It was tough because they had ground fault requ

Re: Ozone testing for UL1950

Air Quality Sciences Atlanta Georgia Ph (404) 933-0638 Good luck, Ray Russell __ Reply Separator _ Subject: Ozone testing for UL1950 Author: Joan Legerski at Internet List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.iee

Re: CREEPAGE DISTANCE

on. Also, under D.2.2 (for working voltages under 1000 V) there's is a statement that permits interpolation. Good luck, Ray Russell ray_russ...@leco.com __ Reply Separator _ Subject: CRE

Humidity Tests

our type of equipment. Thank you for your assistance. Ray Russell ray_russ...@leco.com

Re: Poland Certification

this helps, Ray Russell __ Reply Separator _ Subject: Poland Certification Author: Brent Taira <72642.3...@compuserve.com> at Internet List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date:10/9/96 2:36 AM Hello - We are

Transformer Testing

again for your assistance. Ray Russell ray_russ...@leco.com

Interlocks/Safety Relays

office, phone 0 15 36/46 07 66. Thanks again for all of the great information on this newsgroup. Ray Russell ray_russ...@leco.com

Interlocks

Dear Friends, I've received some contradicting information in relation to the need for interlocks, and would like to bring it up to the group for discussion. We have an instrument that has a removable side panel. A tool is required to remove the panel and there is

Product Labeling

information on this type of labeling requirements, Please send the info to ray_russ...@lecousa.com. Thank you, Ray Russell