[PSES] SV: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2024-06-03 Thread Amund Westin
Guys IoT products, they seem to not be a included in this directive. And that’s because of its low power consumptions nature ? BR Amund Fra: Charlie Blackham Sendt: 1. juni 2024 21:11 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity Scott The

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2024-06-02 Thread Scott Xe
t; > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > > > > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 2:33 AM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* [PSES] Declaration of Conformity > > > > Hello Experts, > > > > According to the Ecodes

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2024-06-01 Thread Charlie Blackham
Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Scott Xe Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 2:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity Hello Experts, According to the Ecodesign Directive (EU) 2009

[PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2024-05-31 Thread Scott Xe
Hello Experts, According to the Ecodesign Directive (EU) 2009/125, manufacturers must draw up a declaration of conformity for covered products. However, the Energy Labelling Regulation (EU) 2017/1369 does not explicitly mention this requirement. Is a declaration of conformity also mandatory for

[PSES] Fw: Re: [PSES] ISED Requirements for Self-Declaration of Conformity

2024-02-22 Thread Brian Gregory
Doug, applicable CSA reg is RSS-247. We put "ICES-003" on our label. Brian -- Forwarded Message -- From: Douglas Nix Subject: Re: [PSES] ISED Requirements for Self-Declaration of Conformity Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:55:30 -0500 Hi Brian, Do you know which ICE

Re: [PSES] ISED Requirements for Self-Declaration of Conformity

2024-02-22 Thread Larry K. Stillings
y firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. From: Brian Gregory Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 1:55 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] ISED Requirements for Self-Declaration of Conformity Hello fellow EMC Nerds, I had posted a time or two on our EMC issues

Re: [PSES] ISED Requirements for Self-Declaration of Conformity

2024-02-22 Thread Douglas Nix
h improved results compared to the originally > approved unit, we've been able to attest to compliance via the SELF > DECLARATION of CONFORMITY (SDoC) process as defined in the FCC guidance > documents for our unit under the Class 1 Permissive Change (C1PC) rules, re: > Part 47

[PSES] ISED Requirements for Self-Declaration of Conformity

2024-02-22 Thread Brian Gregory
Hello fellow EMC Nerds, I had posted a time or two on our EMC issues with a unit that has a class B certified WiFi/BT module. With improved results compared to the originally approved unit, we've been able to attest to compliance via the SELF DECLARATION of CONFORMITY (SDoC) proce

Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC)

2021-02-25 Thread Charlie Blackham
. Where compliance of radio equipment with the applicable requirements has been demonstrated by that conformity assessment procedure, manufacturers shall draw up an EU declaration of conformity and affix the CE marking Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946

Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC)

2021-02-25 Thread Scott Xe
47 > > > > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* 24 February 2021 13:46 > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC) > > > > Does the DoC only provide references to the directives or regulations that > require DoC? Other non-r

Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC)

2021-02-25 Thread Scott Xe
> > > > Dan > > > > *From:* Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:46 AM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC) > > > > Does the DoC only provide references to

Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC)

2021-02-24 Thread Charlie Blackham
Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Scott Xe Sent: 24 February 2021 13:46 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC) Does

Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC)

2021-02-24 Thread Dan Roman
topic though. Stay safe, stay well. Dan From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:46 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC) Does the DoC only provide references to the directives or regulations that

[PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC)

2021-02-24 Thread Scott Xe
Does the DoC only provide references to the directives or regulations that require DoC? Other non-required directives or regulations should not be included in the DoC. For examples, GPSD, packaging waste, battery, energy label, etc. Thanks and regards, Scott - -

Re: [PSES] EN 62311:2008 : proper statement in European Declaration of Conformity

2021-01-31 Thread T.Sato
eu/CENELEC/Guides/CLC/13_CENELECGuide13.pdf, "EN IEC" now means the EN standard is identical with the corresponding IEC standard. > As for the EU Declaration of Conformity, are we only to > state that a product meets, EN 62311:2008, when in fact, the product was > tested to the 20

[PSES] EN 62311:2008 : proper statement in European Declaration of Conformity

2021-01-31 Thread Richard Georgerian
in the name or what it implies or its significance. As for the EU Declaration of Conformity, are we only to state that a product meets, EN 62311:2008, when in fact, the product was tested to the 2020 version, or the latest version, even though the latest version is not in the European Journa

Re: [PSES] Product Declaration of Conformity with external PSU...

2019-04-11 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Matthew, See below inline comments. From: Matthew Wilson | GBE Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2019 11:51 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Product Declaration of Conformity with external PSU... A consumer product is powered by AA cells but also can derive its power from

Re: [PSES] Product Declaration of Conformity with external PSU...

2019-04-10 Thread Matthew Larkin
] Product Declaration of Conformity with external PSU... I still don't see why having a power supply in the same box causes a battery-operated product to be subject to the LVD. It just doesn't seem sufficient reason to justify the cost of p

Re: [PSES] Product Declaration of Conformity with external PSU...

2019-04-10 Thread John Woodgate
its for the lvd, such as 5 or 12 voltDC , then the lvd does not apply Gert Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 10 apr. 2019 om 18:03 heeft John Woodgate <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk>> het volgende geschreven: I think: /Should the product's EU Declaration of Conformity list the LVD direc

Re: [PSES] Product Declaration of Conformity with external PSU...

2019-04-10 Thread Gert Gremmen
oltDC , then the lvd does not apply Gert Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 10 apr. 2019 om 18:03 heeft John Woodgate <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk>> het volgende geschreven: I think: /Should the product's EU Declaration of Conformity list the LVD directive? If so is it acceptable t

Re: [PSES] Product Declaration of Conformity with external PSU...

2019-04-10 Thread John Woodgate
I think: /Should the product's EU Declaration of Conformity list the LVD directive? If so is it acceptable to list 'LVD only with specific 'manufacturer ABC' 'model XYZ' PSU as a clause in the DoC? I've not ever seen that done but don't see why that

[PSES] Product Declaration of Conformity with external PSU...

2019-04-10 Thread Matthew Wilson | GBE
he product. The PSU does not carry the product manufacturer's logo but that of the PSU manufacturer (or possibly its importer/distributor assuming the responsibility of manufacturer because it will inevitably be made in Far East). Should the product's EU Declaration of Conformity li

Re: [PSES] Spare parts requiring an EU declaration of Conformity.

2019-01-18 Thread McBurney, Ian
ineer Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK. Tel: 01326 372070 Email: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com From: John Woodgate Sent: 18 January 2019 15:39 To: McBurney, Ian ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Spare parts requiring an EU declaration of C

Re: [PSES] Spare parts requiring an EU declaration of Conformity.

2019-01-18 Thread Knighten, Jim L
AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Spare parts requiring an EU declaration of Conformity. [External Email] Dear Colleagues. Can anyone point me to the relevant section in the EU directives regarding the shipping of spares into the EU? We are shipp

Re: [PSES] Spare parts requiring an EU declaration of Conformity.

2019-01-18 Thread John Woodgate
arts requiring an EU declaration of Conformity. Your simplest course is not to argue but give them the DoC they want. As you say, Turkey is not in the EU, so it could, if it wanted, require a DoC written on parchment, with gold lettering. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate

Re: [PSES] Spare parts requiring an EU declaration of Conformity.

2019-01-18 Thread John Woodgate
, Essex UK On 2019-01-18 09:50, McBurney, Ian wrote: Dear Colleagues. Can anyone point me to the relevant section in the EU directives regarding the shipping of spares into the EU? We are shipping a spare PSU PCB assembly into Turkey and the Turkish customs want a Declaration of Conformity

[PSES] Spare parts requiring an EU declaration of Conformity.

2019-01-18 Thread McBurney, Ian
Dear Colleagues. Can anyone point me to the relevant section in the EU directives regarding the shipping of spares into the EU? We are shipping a spare PSU PCB assembly into Turkey and the Turkish customs want a Declaration of Conformity document. I know Turkey is not in the EU but they are

[PSES] AW: EU Declaration of Conformity

2017-01-04 Thread Dürrer Bernd
Declaration of Conformity Hi Should all DoC be updated now to reflect the new EMC directive? The Blue Guide in section 2.10 suggests DoC for old directive are still valid but then goes on to say: “As of their entry into force, the EU Declaration of conformity will need to include the reference to the

[PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity

2017-01-03 Thread McCallum, Andy
Hi Should all DoC be updated now to reflect the new EMC directive? The Blue Guide in section 2.10 suggests DoC for old directive are still valid but then goes on to say: “As of their entry into force, the EU Declaration of conformity will need to include the reference to the new Directives

Re: [PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity

2015-01-16 Thread John Allen
They could have combined the weighing and EMC declarations. -Dave -Original Message- From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:41 PM To: Nyffenegger, Dave; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: CE Declaration of Conformity Dave A DoI is only

Re: [PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity

2015-01-16 Thread Nick Williams
Surely if you declare compliance with any particular Directive on your Declaration then you must follow the attestation procedures for that Directive. On the basis of a quick look, there is no attestation route under the NAWID which does not require some form of Notified Body intervention. I kno

Re: [PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity

2015-01-16 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
This makes sense. Thanks -Dave -Original Message- From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:46 PM To: Nyffenegger, Dave Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity Surely if you declare compliance

Re: [PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity

2015-01-16 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
weighing and EMC declarations. -Dave -Original Message- From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:41 PM To: Nyffenegger, Dave; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: CE Declaration of Conformity Dave A DoI is only defined for the Machinery

Re: [PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity

2015-01-16 Thread Crane, Lauren
-Original Message- From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:14 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity Hi folks, I design and manufacture light machinery that includes some sub-assemblies which

Re: [PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity

2015-01-16 Thread Brian Oconnell
...@bhemail.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 10:14 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity Hi folks, I design and manufacture light machinery that includes some sub-assemblies which we purchase and integrate. The sub-assemblies come with their own DoI. In

[PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity

2015-01-16 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Hi folks, I design and manufacture light machinery that includes some sub-assemblies which we purchase and integrate. The sub-assemblies come with their own DoI. In particular I may integrate automatic and non-automatic weighing scales that would come with a DoI or DoC for the machinery and d

Re: [PSES] Definition of Declaration of Conformity

2014-06-25 Thread Charlie Blackham
Whilst it's (only) a "guide", section 4.4 of the recently updated Blue Guide has quite a bit of information on EU Declaration of Conformity: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/documents/internal-market-for-products/new-legislative-framework/index_

Re: [PSES] Definition of Declaration of Conformity

2014-06-25 Thread Tyra, John
guidance and may not be applicable to your product -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:54 AM To: Tyra, John; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Definition of Declaration of Conformity Hi John, The info is clear that DoC is

Re: [PSES] Definition of Declaration of Conformity

2014-06-25 Thread Scott Xe
; From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:30 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] Definition of Declaration of Conformity > > In the field, lots of people such as customers, market surveillances, customs, > etc. are asking for a D

Re: [PSES] Definition of Declaration of Conformity

2014-06-25 Thread Scott Xe
wrote: > Hi Scott, > > CE Marking and associated Declaration of Conformity is complicated when viewed > as a whole but greatly simplifies when considered for just a single product > (including variants). > > It's almost impossible to give a 'universal' a

Re: [PSES] Definition of Declaration of Conformity

2014-06-25 Thread Anthony Thomson
Hi Scott,   CE Marking and associated Declaration of Conformity is complicated when viewed as a whole but greatly simplifies when considered for just a single product (including variants).   It's almost impossible to give a 'universal' answer because whilst there are common

Re: [PSES] Definition of Declaration of Conformity

2014-06-24 Thread Brian Oconnell
John has provided the essential stuff. Some of my employer's customers seem to get the Declaration of Conformity confused with a (contractual) 'Certificate of Conformity'. Methinks the important stuff is framed by the how the document meets the directives' requirements

Re: [PSES] Definition of Declaration of Conformity

2014-06-24 Thread Tyra, John
scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:30 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Definition of Declaration of Conformity In the field, lots of people such as customers, market surveillances, customs, etc. are asking for a DoC on particular product and/or its variants in Europe. Wh

[PSES] Definition of Declaration of Conformity

2014-06-24 Thread Scott Xe
In the field, lots of people such as customers, market surveillances, customs, etc. are asking for a DoC on particular product and/or its variants in Europe. What is the exact meaning of the DoC? Is it the one to support the compliance of CE mark? Or the compliance of all legal requirements (mor

Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity

2014-03-01 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
and forth with signatures. -Dave From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 4:51 AM To: Nyffenegger, Dave; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity Dave et all Note that however correct the int

Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity

2014-03-01 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
l.com] Verzonden: zaterdag 1 maart 2014 4:34 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity Thanks. The explanatory pages seem to be consistent with my interpretation. -Dave From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Friday, Februa

Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity

2014-03-01 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Thanks. The explanatory pages seem to be consistent with my interpretation. -Dave From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 3:54 PM To: Nyffenegger, Dave Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity Dave

Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity

2014-02-28 Thread Nick Williams
r legal person established > in the Community who has received a written mandate from the manufacturer to > perform on his behalf all or part of the obligations and formalities > connected with this Directive;" > > ANNEX II declares > > "The EC declaration of

[PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity

2014-02-27 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
ity who has received a written mandate from the manufacturer to perform on his behalf all or part of the obligations and formalities connected with this Directive;" ANNEX II declares "The EC declaration of conformity must contain the following particulars: 2. name and address

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2013-12-03 Thread Nick Williams
The reason for this is that the workplace safety requirements introduced under Article 137 of the TFEU require an employer to ensure that equipment which they supply for the use of their employees complies with the applicable essential requirements. The Declaration is a useful piece of paper to

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2013-12-03 Thread Kunde, Brian
a bound manual completely impossible and impractical. Thanks for the information and references. The Other Brian From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:47 AM To: Kunde, Brian Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Declaration

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2013-12-02 Thread Kunde, Brian
-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity It is a requirement of the Machinery Directive that a copy of the declaration be supplied with each machine. Whether it should be a DoI or DoC will depend on the circumstances, but either way it should be something tha

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2013-12-02 Thread Mark Schmidt
all, Mark From: John Cotman [mailto:john.cot...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 12:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity It is a requirement of the Machinery Directive that a copy of the declaration be supplied with each machine

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2013-12-02 Thread John Cotman
ent of a DoI has to carry out further work to bring the equipment into full compliance, so they need to know what that work involves. JohnC _ From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: 02 December 2013 15:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES]

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2013-12-02 Thread Crane, Lauren
<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:14:23 PM Subject: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity Hello List, I need some help. I am very new to the Machinery Directive and my customer received a non-conformance from their customer about their DoC. It appears that my

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2013-12-01 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
iance Engineer Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: "Mark Schmidt" To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:14:23 PM Subject: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity Hello List,   I need some help. I am very new to the Machinery Directive

[PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2013-11-25 Thread Mark Schmidt
Hello List, I need some help. I am very new to the Machinery Directive and my customer received a non-conformance from their customer about their DoC. It appears that my customer's distributor generated a DoI, and it appears that it needs to be a DoC and most importantly their complaint is that

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-14 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
. Gert Gremmen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens John Woodgate Verzonden: donderdag 14 februari 2013 16:23 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity In message

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message <7B9D892F88F070469771832D78B3086E062AF24B@013-BR1MPN1-012.MGDPBI.global.p vt>, dated Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Jim Hulbert writes: However, if the product assessment (most likely a test report) shows the product complies with Class A limits but not the Class B limits, the warning statement

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-14 Thread Jim Hulbert
e.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:24 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity In message <7B9D892F88F070469771832D78B3086E062AC1C4@013-BR1MPN1-012.MGDPBI.global.p vt>, dated Thu, 14 Fe

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-14 Thread Helge Knudsen
Of Jim Hulbert Sent: 14. februar 2013 14:49 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity Thanks for the responses. However, this also brings me to a follow-up question. EN55022 in clause 4.2 states that for Class A ITE a warning shall be included

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-14 Thread Charlie Blackham
TC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity Jim, Good question regarding statements in the standard that is not covered in the Directives. Do you really have to do them? If you are claiming compliance with a directive via compliance to a harmonized sta

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message <7B9D892F88F070469771832D78B3086E062AC1C4@013-BR1MPN1-012.MGDPBI.global.p vt>, dated Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Jim Hulbert writes: Thanks for the responses.  However, this also brings me to a follow-up question.  EN55022 in clause 4.2 states that for Class A ITE a warning shall be included

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-14 Thread Kunde, Brian
.@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hulbert Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:49 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity Thanks for the responses. However, this also brings me to a follow-up question. EN55022 in clause

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-14 Thread Jim Hulbert
V.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity A number of commercial products that I've worked on met the Class B limits with margin. But since they were commercial products, and were not marketed to the "public", marketing stayed with the Class A compl

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-13 Thread Bill Owsley
dgate >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:17 PM >To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >Subject: Re: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity > >Not on the DoC but in your EMC Assessment statement. It could hardly be >a requirement on the DoC because that would have to be specifi

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-13 Thread Bill Owsley
ments is so annoying! > > From: "Crane, Lauren" >To: Jim Hulbert ; "EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG" > >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:44 PM >Subject: RE: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity > > >

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-13 Thread Crane, Lauren
Tencor From: Jim Hulbert [mailto:jim.hulb...@pb.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:02 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity On CE Declarations of Conformity, where EN 55022 standard has been referenced, is it a requirement that the limit tha

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity Not on the DoC but in your EMC Assessment statement. It could hardly be a requirement on the DoC because that would have to be specified in the Directive. Not all standards have 'Class A' and 'Class B', and those that do don

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-13 Thread John Woodgate
In message <7B9D892F88F070469771832D78B3086E062A6FEA@013-BR1MPN1-012.MGDPBI.global.p vt>, dated Wed, 13 Feb 2013, Jim Hulbert writes: On CE Declarations of Conformity, where EN 55022 standard has been referenced, is it a requirement that the limit that was applied (class A or class B) also be

[PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

2013-02-13 Thread Jim Hulbert
On CE Declarations of Conformity, where EN 55022 standard has been referenced, is it a requirement that the limit that was applied (class A or class B) also be stated? We show the limit on our DoCs, but some of our OEMs do not. I can't find where it is actually required. Jim Hulbert ___

Re: [PSES] EC Declaration of Conformity with standards and Amendments

2013-02-12 Thread Mobers Jan (ST-VS/EAP1.4-NL)
document itself. No consolidated version will be issued for including a corrigendum. Therefore, two documents will exist separately. In the light of this, you might declare this AC:2011 also on your EC DoC declaration of conformity. But please do check this also with your National Electrotechnic

Re: [PSES] EC Declaration of Conformity with standards and Amendments

2013-02-11 Thread Mobers Jan (ST-VS/EAP1.4-NL)
8 februari 2013 19:37 To: John Woodgate; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] EC Declaration of Conformity with standards and Amendments Good answer! __ James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485

[PSES] Recall: [PSES] EC Declaration of Conformity with standards and Amendments

2013-02-11 Thread Mobers Jan (ST-VS/EAP1.4-NL)
Mobers Jan (ST-VS/EAP1.4-NL) would like to recall the message, "[PSES] EC Declaration of Conformity with standards and Amendments". - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussio

Re: [PSES] EC Declaration of Conformity with standards and Amendments

2013-02-08 Thread Knighten, Jim L
, February 08, 2013 4:58 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EC Declaration of Conformity with standards and Amendments In message , dated Fri, 8 Feb 2013, "Mobers Jan (ST-VS/EAP1.4-NL)" writes: >A question came up for the EC DoC. The applicable standards with >versio

Re: [PSES] EC Declaration of Conformity with standards and Amendments

2013-02-08 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Fri, 8 Feb 2013, "Mobers Jan (ST-VS/EAP1.4-NL)" writes: A question came up for the EC DoC. The applicable standards with version / year need to be mentioned. But what about the some times applicable amendments of the standards so called AC:x. Acs are not amendment

[PSES] EC Declaration of Conformity with standards and Amendments

2013-02-08 Thread Mobers Jan (ST-VS/EAP1.4-NL)
Dear newsgroups readers A question came up for the EC DoC. The applicable standards with version / year need to be mentioned. But what about the some times applicable amendments of the standards so called AC:x. For instance the EMC: EN 55022:2010 EN 55022:2010/AC:2011 Does the AC:2011 also

Re: [PSES] Need for a EU Signature on a Declaration of Conformity??

2010-12-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
To all who replied to my question regarding the need for an EU based signatory to the Declaration of Conformity, Thank You. You confirmed what I already knew. Much appreciated! -- Doug Nix Office: (519) 650-4753 Mobile (519) 729-5704 Skype: cic-inc d...@complianceinsight.ca

RE: Need for a EU Signature on a Declaration of Conformity??

2010-12-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Need for a EU Signature on a Declaration of Conformity?? Hi Doug, I believe your client is in error. The Blue Guide <http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policie /single-market-goods/files/blue-guide/guidepublic_en.pdf> only indicates that a person residing the EU is re

RE: Need for a EU Signature on a Declaration of Conformity??

2010-12-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Community is entitled to carry out all the certification procedures at his premises and, therefore, to sign the declaration of conformity, unless otherwise provided for in the directive(s).” The EMC, LVD and R&TTE Directives do not require somebody domiciled within the EC to sign the DoC. T

Need for a EU Signature on a Declaration of Conformity??

2010-12-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Colleagues, I have recently heard from a client in the UK, that a Declaration of Conformity is not valid without a signature from an EU entity. I cannot find any legal basis that supports this. Can anyone enlighten me on this? -- Doug Nix Office: (519) 650-4753 Mobile (519) 729-5704 Skype: cic

Re: EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Tue, 3 Aug 2010, lauren_cr...@amat.com writes: >Jumping in not having researched the full thread... be sure to see also >the new framework directive/regulation on CE Marking that strives to >provide legal certainly regarding these various economic actors >(manufacturer's, d

Re: EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
sider the environment before printing this e-mail. John Woodgate Sent by: emc-p...@ieee.org 08/03/2010 01:04 PM To EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG cc Subject Re: EU Declaration of Conformity In message , dated Tue, 3 Aug 2010,

Re: EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Carl Newton writes: >I believe that this last statement, above, may apply to company B that >is private-labeling a product manufactured by company A and placing it >on the EU market.  In this case, Company B assumes the role of the >manufacturer and is res

Re: EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I believe that we need to consider the definition of 'manufacturer' . Consider the following from Section 3 of the Blue Guide: "The manufacturer may design and manufacture the product himself. As an alternative, he may have it designed, manufactured, assembled, packed, processed or labelled with

Re: EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <001801cb3329$482681f0$d600a...@tamuracorp.com>, dated Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Brian O'Connell writes: >While the term 'agency' my not apply to that side of the cod pond, >these institutions all have specific requirements for this when a >product bears their mark. But these are nothing to

RE: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In my particular example it is not a relabel, only a resell of an untouched product. From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:31 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity While the term 'agen

RE: EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
mc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of John > Woodgate > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:28 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: EU Declaration of Conformity > > In message <002001cb3291$73038b90$d600a...@tamuracorp.com>, > dated Mon, 2 > Aug 2010, Br

Re: EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <002001cb3291$73038b90$d600a...@tamuracorp.com>, dated Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Brian O'Connell writes: >You cannot operate on your own cognizance and wills if you re-label a >product that bears the mark of an 'agency'. I don't see that 'agency' applies in Europe. The manufacturer bears an

Re: EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <617df0128820f9458ac39149a627ee6c01a6981...@mbx.dialogic.com>, dated Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Dan Roman writes: >I hate to rehash this again, it has been discussed in the past but it >seems every new twist or added detail raises doubts.  If company A >inside the EU resells a product from c

RE: EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-02 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
ay, August 02, 2010 1:45 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: EU Declaration of Conformity EU legal experts, I hate to rehash this again, it has been discussed in the past but it seems every new twist or added detail raises doubts. If company A inside the EU resells a product from company B outsid

EU Declaration of Conformity

2010-08-02 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
EU legal experts, I hate to rehash this again, it has been discussed in the past but it seems every new twist or added detail raises doubts. If company A inside the EU resells a product from company B outside the EU, then the companies are jointly responsible for compliance is my understanding

RE: Declaration of Conformity Question

2007-05-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Richard and all, I encourage my customers to include the wording of the DoC in the manual is a way that it will be translated when the manual is translated into the needed languages of use. One implementation of this is to print the DoC info in the manual (not a pho

Re: Declaration of Conformity Question

2007-05-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Richard, Sec. 5.4 of of the EN Blue Guide reads: "The EC declaration of conformity must be drawn up in one of the official languages of the Community. If the Community directives contain no further provisions concerning the language of the declaration, the requirements of the Member Stat

Declaration of Conformity Question

2007-05-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear Approvals Experts: This question has probably been asked before, but here goes again: Is it required, or advisable, to use multi-lingual Declaration of Confomities, such that all of the information on the Declaration is provided in all of the languages where the product will be mar

RE: Declaration of Conformity to new EMC Directive

2007-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Sorry for the confusion. Best wishes Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of jharring...@f2labs.com Sent: 23 April 2007 14:26 To: j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Declaration of Conformity to new EMC Directive John, Brian Annex IV, section

Re: Declaration of Conformity to new EMC Directive

2007-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Mon, 23 Apr 2007, jharring...@f2labs.com writes: >Annex IV, section 2 EC declaration of conformity, of the new directive >includes > >- a dated reference to the specifications under which conformity is >declared to ensure the conformity of the apparatus with

RE: Declaration of Conformity to new EMC Directive

2007-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
John, Brian Annex IV, section 2 EC declaration of conformity, of the new directive includes - a dated reference to the specifications under which conformity is declared to ensure the conformity of the apparatus with the provisions of this Directive. At the risk of sounding like a pedant, there

Re: Declaration of Conformity to new EMC Directive

2007-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <200704231033.l3naxwhp009...@hormel7.ieee.org>, dated Mon, 23 Apr 2007, Brian Jones writes: >My text that you quote below is from the Guide. I know that this is >not legislation, but the Guide will be read by enforcement authorities >as well as manufacturers, so enforcement authori

RE: Declaration of Conformity to new EMC Directive

2007-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
of conformity. Best wishes Brian Brian Jones EMC Consultant From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 23 April 2007 08:57 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Declaration of Conformity to new EMC Directive In message <200704230740.l3n7e5vl

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