[PSES] Fw: Shake and Bake! MIL-STD 810/DO-160 for Military and Aerospace Devices and Systems

2024-07-24 Thread Ronald Wilson
From: WL Academy Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 1:52 PM To: Info Subject: Shake and Bake! MIL-STD 810/DO-160 for Military and Aerospace Devices and Systems Join us for a Hybrid Event! In-Person and Virtual Event on August 15, 2024 [https://oy8can6ab.cc.rs6.net/

[PSES] Fw: Re: [PSES] Radiated Emissions - How many points to QP?

2024-04-10 Thread Brian Gregory
Just finished some testing at an accredited lab. For an accredited report, they run QPs on all measurements whose peak are w/in 6 dB of the limit. I don't know if that's their rule, or by the regulations. FYI Colorado Brian -- Forwarded Message -- From: Bill Owsley <00f5a

[PSES] Fw: Re: [PSES] ISED Requirements for Self-Declaration of Conformity

2024-02-22 Thread Brian Gregory
Doug, applicable CSA reg is RSS-247. We put "ICES-003" on our label. Brian -- Forwarded Message -- From: Douglas Nix Subject: Re: [PSES] ISED Requirements for Self-Declaration of Conformity Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:55:30 -0500 Hi Brian, Do you know which ICES standard appli

Re: [PSES] Fw: FCC/ISED file change update

2023-08-29 Thread Charlie Blackham
(0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Brian Gregory Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2023 11:13 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Fw: FCC/ISED file change update Good afternoon, I'll repeat my earlier story and give

Re: [PSES] Fw: FCC/ISED file change update

2023-08-29 Thread Jim Bacher, WB8VSU
Brian, I agree that Class II permissive changes only applies to intentional radiators. The catch is if your device contains a Wi-Fi device, then your device is also a Wireless device / intentional radiator. However as you are not modifying the Wi-Fi module there is no reason to do a formal fi

[PSES] Fw: FCC/ISED file change update

2023-08-29 Thread Brian Gregory
Good afternoon, I'll repeat my earlier story and give the group an update. We have made some small changes to our product (prominently to Y-caps, and some beads) which unfortunately did not increase our margin vs EMC limits, but the product still passes FCC and ISED. Engineering wanted to use

[PSES] FW: Regulatory & Standard Updates / Oct 2021

2023-06-21 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Brian: I have found this listing to be useful. Unfortunately, I don’t know how to subscribe. Good luck! Rich From: TÜV Rheinland North America Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 8:58 AM To: ri...@ieee.org Subject: Regulatory & Standard Updates / Oct 2021 If you do

[PSES] Fw: Re: [PSES] How to Measure Surface Conductivity?

2023-04-11 Thread Brian Gregory
Conductive epoxy bonding the probe to the surface?Calibrate with a current shunt. "Colorado" Brian 720-450-4933 -- Forwarded Message -- From: Marko Radojicic <052300254e41-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] How to Measure Surf

[PSES] FW: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / Midwest Region

2023-03-24 Thread Richard Nute
FYI. From: Roland Gutzky Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 1:32 PM To: char...@sulisconsultants.com; ri...@ieee.org Subject: FW: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / Midwest Region Hi Folks, One of my colleagues passed this thread to me as he follows the

Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

2022-11-07 Thread Doug Powell
bout “cutting off your nose to spite your face”!)* > > > > John E Allen > > W. London, UK > > *From:* Doug Powell > *Sent:* 07 November 2022 16:15 > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending > Regu

Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

2022-11-07 Thread John E Allen
) John E Allen W. London, UK From: Doug Powell Sent: 07 November 2022 16:15 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program I've been watching the latest UK news with interest. From my perspectiv

Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

2022-11-07 Thread Doug Powell
> *From:* John E Allen <09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2022 9:01 AM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending > Regulatory Change to UKCA Program > > > &g

Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

2022-11-07 Thread Richard Georgerian
sday, August 4, 2022 9:01 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program For anyone who has not seen this or something similar! John E Allen W.London, UK From: Intertek mailto:nore...@e.intertek.

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

2022-08-05 Thread Dan Roman
, August 05, 2022 2:24 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program You know, I’m curious what is meant by a conformity assessment by a UK body? What equipment requires this and what value

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

2022-08-04 Thread Lfresearch
> Fra: John E Allen > Sendt: 4. august 2022 17:01 > Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Emne: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory > Change to UKCA Program > > For anyone who has not seen this or something similar! > > John E Allen

[PSES] SV: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

2022-08-04 Thread Amund Westin
Fra: John E Allen Sendt: 4. august 2022 17:01 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program For anyone who has not seen this or something similar! John E Allen W.London, UK From: Intertek

[PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

2022-08-04 Thread John E Allen
For anyone who has not seen this or something similar! John E Allen W.London, UK From: Intertek Sent: 03 August 2022 12:58 To: john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program The UK Government has announced its intention to introduce

[PSES] FW: Korean stand KS X 3124 Radiated Emission Requirements

2022-03-15 Thread David Shidlovsky
Hello 1. According Table 1 of KS X 3124; radiated emission testing is applicable to he main body and auxiliary devices enclosure port for the following instruments: * Fixed wireless devices and assistive devices (e.g. base station equipment) * Vehicle wireless devices and assis

[PSES] FW: Join us Online: Micro-Thermography – Temperature Measurement in the Micrometer Range

2021-10-06 Thread Pete Perkins
For those who are wishing that temperature measurements could be made easier with thermal cameras, here’s an update on the technology. :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 1067 Albany, ORe 97321-0413 503/452-120

Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to IEC 60601-1-2-2014 + A1-2020

2021-03-10 Thread T.Sato
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 07:03:43 +, David Shidlovsky wrote: > Any opinions as to when testing conducted and radiated missions of a medical > device being tested to IEC 60601-1-2 can be performed to CISPR 14-1 or CISPR > 32 instead of CISPR 11? > Would it be more appropriate to test a medical

[PSES] FW: Testing to IEC 60601-1-2-2014 + A1-2020

2021-03-09 Thread David Shidlovsky
Hi Any opinions as to when testing conducted and radiated missions of a medical device being tested to IEC 60601-1-2 can be performed to CISPR 14-1 or CISPR 32 instead of CISPR 11? Would it be more appropriate to test a medical device used in home health care environment using CISPR 14-1 instead

[PSES] FW: ESD Failure per EN 301 489-1 vs EN 55035

2021-03-09 Thread David Shidlovsky
Hello all, 1. One of our customers manufactures coffee printers. 2. Recently the customer has manufactured a new model to which he has added a CE approved radio 2.4 GHz module. 3. Since the coffee printer is not equivalent to the host used for the initial assessment of the module, accor

[PSES] FW: Help with petition to be an IEEE President Elect candidate in 2021

2021-01-22 Thread Richard Nute
See following message. You must be an IEEE member to sign the petition. After you log in to your IEEE account, you will get the petition page. Click on the "Annual Election Petition," and you will get the petition page. Best regards, and stay safe! Rich -Original Message- From: T

[PSES] FW: IEC Warning: increased prevalence of malware

2020-10-12 Thread lauren . crane
FYI - Probably many listserv members have already received this... but just in case. Regards, -Lauren From: Megan Pahl Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 11:42 AM To: Megan Pahl Subject: IEC Warning: increased prevalence of malware TO: USNC Constituents COPY: USNC Staff Please note there has bee

[PSES] FW: [PSES] engineers-turned-detectives have become heroes in the village of Aberhosan Wales

2020-09-23 Thread itl-emc user group
From: Sykes, Bob Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:06 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] engineers-turned-detectives have become heroes in the village of Aberhosan Wales Another EMC war story written for the general public, but interesting (to me) and certainly geek humor 😊

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] Legal opinion on the European standardisation system published by the Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy

2020-09-14 Thread Chuck August-McDowell
emc user group Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 6:04 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FW: [PSES] Legal opinion on the European standardisation system published by the Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Documents downloaded to \\server-ts\sysdata\REFER

[PSES] FW: [PSES] Legal opinion on the European standardisation system published by the Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy

2020-09-12 Thread itl-emc user group
Documents downloaded to \\server-ts\sysdata\REFERENCE\Compliance Data Base\01-Standards Library\01-(MAIN) EMC\EU Directive Related David From: loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:08 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Legal opinion on the European st

[PSES] FW: [PSES] Question on 15.407 spurious emissions testing method enforcement

2019-11-25 Thread itl-emc user group
From: micha...@acbcert.com Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:24 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Question on 15.407 spurious emissions testing method enforcement Hi Charles, I hope you are well. When performing your 15.109 emissions (part 15 subpart B) on the digital d

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EN62311 - Human Exposure to Electromagnetic Fields

2018-07-05 Thread John Woodgate
Sounds a bit fishy to me. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-07-05 22:43, John Allen wrote: In other words, become an "aquaphibian"/(or something like that :) )/ – “back to the Future” J -Original Message- From:

[PSES] FW: [PSES] EN62311 - Human Exposure to Electromagnetic Fields

2018-07-05 Thread John Allen
In other words, become an "aquaphibian" (or something like that :) ) – “back to the Future” J -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 05 July 2018 22:04 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN62311 - Human Exposure to Electromagne

Re: [PSES] FW: Industrial Printer

2018-05-26 Thread bart.de.gee...@telenet.be
-certified radio module, or has own antenna designed for it (which is not certified by the manufacturer of the module) also specific radio testing is needed.Greetings, BartVerzonden vanaf mijn Huawei mobiele telefoon Oorspronkelijk bericht Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] FW: Industrial PrinterVan

Re: [PSES] FW: Industrial Printer

2018-05-26 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
That is a valuable remark. Instead one should look-out for EN 55035 to be published; until then equipment legally need to comply with EN 55024  and both standards should be considered. The publication date of that standard is currently unknown. The scope of the affiliated standards EN 55022

Re: [PSES] FW: Industrial Printer

2018-05-26 Thread John Woodgate
EN 55024 has only a very limited future life. I would not recommend applying it to a new product. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-05-26 08:50, Gert Gremmen; ce-test wrote: Hi David, CISPR 32 is not relevant as this i

Re: [PSES] FW: Industrial Printer

2018-05-26 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
Hi David, CISPR 32 is not relevant as this is not a Harmonised European standard. While CISPR IEC and EN standards may have similar numberings, they are not the same in all aspects. EN 55032 _is_ a Harmonised European Standard (based on CISPR32) and applies to both Industrial and Residentia

Re: [PSES] FW: Industrial Printer

2018-05-25 Thread McCallum, Andy
20:33 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: Industrial Printer The manufacturer can choose which standards to apply. There is no point at all in applying two emission standards. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk<https://eme

Re: [PSES] FW: Industrial Printer

2018-05-24 Thread John Woodgate
The manufacturer can choose which standards to apply. There is no point at all in applying two emission standards. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-05-24 06:01, itl-emc user group wrote: An industrial printer has been t

[PSES] FW: Industrial Printer

2018-05-23 Thread itl-emc user group
An industrial printer has been tested to EN 55011: 2009 + A1: 2010 and EN 61000-6-2: 2005 + AC: 2006 (latest EMCD OJ). Another industrial printer has been tested to EN 61000-6-4: 2007 + A1: 2011 and EN 61000-6-2: 2005 + AC: 2006 (latest EMCD OJ). The printers are used in an industrial environment

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ

2018-05-06 Thread Gert Gremmen / Ce-test
07, USA > Email: kevin.mccandl...@schneider-electric.com | Site: > www.schneider-electric.com/buildings > > *** Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > -Original Message- > From: James Pawson (U3C) [mailto:ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ

2018-03-15 Thread Kevin McCandless
ore printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: James Pawson (U3C) [mailto:ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:07 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ Hi Bernd, John, Thanks for the useful information

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ

2018-03-15 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Hi Bernd, John, Thanks for the useful information, much appreciated. All the best James -Original Message- From: Dürrer Bernd Sent: 15 March 2018 10:00 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] AW: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ Hello James, EN 50491 is a series of

[PSES] AW: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ

2018-03-15 Thread Dürrer Bernd
check when other parts of EN 50491 will be replaced by their IEC 63044 counterparts. Kind regards, Bernd Von: James Pawson (U3C) [mailto:ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. März 2018 09:11 An: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Betreff: Re: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ Hi

Re: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ

2018-03-15 Thread John Woodgate
EE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ These delays in updating the OJ list are very troublesome. Lawyers are involved, which says it all. The 63044 series (and other new, not yet listed standards) cannot be formally used to demonstrate conformity. A possible solution i

Re: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ

2018-03-15 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Hi John, Do you have an idea why a new series of standards are being introduced rather than updating the older ones? Thanks James From: John Woodgate Sent: 14 March 2018 23:19 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ These delays in

Re: [PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ

2018-03-14 Thread John Woodgate
These delays in updating the OJ list are very troublesome.  Lawyers are involved, which says it all. The 63044 series (and other new, not yet listed standards) cannot be formally used to demonstrate conformity. A possible solution is to ensure that the product passes the OJ listed standard, cit

[PSES] FW: HBES/BACS Standards in the OJ

2018-03-14 Thread Kevin McCandless
Hello Experts, I didn't see my first request show up in my inbox. So I'm trying again... A customer in Turkey has stated that the EN 50491-1 family of HBES/BACS standards has been replaced by the EN 63044-1 family. They want a DoC drafted with the new standards called out. When I check the OJ fo

[PSES] FW: [PSES] God EMC practice

2017-09-01 Thread John Woodgate
Please see the URL below. With best wishes John Woodgate 3 Bramfield Road East, RAYLEIGH Essex SS6 8RG UK OOO - Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Beware averages! They hide or discard data, and may distort it (them?). From: J

[PSES] FW: [EDAS-CFP] SPCE Boston Call for Papers! Submit Today

2017-07-13 Thread Brian O'Connell
The 'first' compliance engineering symposium? Why the split from the annual ISPCE? Brian -Original Message- From: EDAS Conference Manager [mailto:h...@edas-help.com] On Behalf Of Rachel Brockhoff Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:32 PM To: Brian O'Connell Subject: [EDAS-CFP] SPCE Boston

[PSES] FW: Intel Job Opportunity - Internet of Things Product Regulatory Engineer

2017-07-12 Thread Ron Pickard
Hi to all as it’s been a while since I’ve posted. I’m now enjoying retirement after a brief and final regulatory stint. Anyway, this regulatory job posting came my way (see below) and I suggested forwarding it to this group. Hopefully it will be of some interest for some of you. Please c

[PSES] Fw: [PSES] Machinery Directive Exemption for products specially designed and constructed for military purposes

2017-01-16 Thread Philip Stevenson
From: Philip Stevenson Sent: 16 January 2017 18:43 To: 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG; Philip Stevenson; Philip Stevenson Subject: RE: [PSES] Machinery Directive Exemption for products specially designed and constructed for military purposes Dear Members I am

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1

2016-10-20 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
2016 14:18 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1 John, et al,     Just remember that this is a dynamic document and any circulated version will, like fish left lying around, age rather quickly and leave an unpleasant odor behind.     

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1

2016-10-20 Thread John Woodgate
manent. From: Pete Perkins [mailto:peperkin...@cs.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:18 PM To: 'John Woodgate' ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1 John, et al, Just remember that this is a dynamic document and any circulated version

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1

2016-10-20 Thread Pete Perkins
0, 2016 12:40 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1 It's only 16 kB, so it's not size that is the problem. The copy-and paste version came through to me. This may help: Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1

2016-10-20 Thread John Woodgate
AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1 Hi All, I spoke to the Secretary of IEC TC 108 and he is happy to share the current state of affairs. However, it's in the form of an Excel spreadsheet which exceeds the maximum size permitted by this message board [I know, I tr

[PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1

2016-10-19 Thread Lovell, Paul
Hi All, I spoke to the Secretary of IEC TC 108 and he is happy to share the current state of affairs. However, it's in the form of an Excel spreadsheet which exceeds the maximum size permitted by this message board [I know, I tried to copy-and-paste it - the message bounced back]. If anyone ca

Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032

2016-09-19 Thread Michael Derby
468 1746 (USA area code) Mobile phone: (+44) 7939 880829 (UK area code) From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: 19 September 2016 08:32 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032 Who decides if a given technology makes &

Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032

2016-09-19 Thread John Woodgate
2016 8:00 AM To: John Woodgate ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032 I'm not sure whether or not you're being serious, but I'll bite - It's got nothing to do with "suppressing stuff" Excerpt the Directive &quo

Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032

2016-09-19 Thread Charlie Blackham
37 To: Charlie Blackham; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032 As I said, nodded through. This 'efficient use' provision is carte blanche for suppression of anything the government doesn't like. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO

Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032

2016-09-18 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
r by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your co-operation. From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Sunday 18 September 2016 22:37 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032 As I said, no

Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032

2016-09-18 Thread John Woodgate
eigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:04 PM To: John Woodgate ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032 John Receiver Sensitivity is an Article 3.2 R

Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032

2016-09-18 Thread Charlie Blackham
jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: 18 September 2016 20:45 To: Charlie Blackham; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032 The draft specifies receiver sensitivity, which is surely not an EMC matter and severely restricts manufacturers' freedom of design and offering of a

Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032

2016-09-18 Thread John Woodgate
o: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032 David The other thing to add is that this is within scope of the Radio Equipment Directive, which must be applied from 13th June 2017, so you may wish to look at the receiver performance requirements in Draft ETSI EN 303

Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032

2016-09-18 Thread Charlie Blackham
345%5C01.01.01_20%5Cen_303345v010101a.pdf> Regards Charlie From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: 18 September 2016 08:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032 EN 55032 is the successor of EN 55013, but 55013 is still valid at p

Re: [PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032

2016-09-18 Thread John Woodgate
- Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: itl-emc user group [mailto:itl...@itl.co.il] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 8:31 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FW: T

[PSES] FW: Testing to EN 55013 or EN 55032

2016-09-18 Thread itl-emc user group
Hi Would an FM receiver used in a motorcycle helmet be subject to testing under EN 55013 or EN 55032? Thanks in advance for any opinions. Regards, David Shidlowsky | Technical Reviewer Address 1 Bat-Sheva St. LOD 7120101 Israel Tel 972-8-9186113 Fax 972-8-9153101 Mail : dav...@itlglobal.org

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

2016-06-22 Thread John Allen
J!! From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: 22 June 2016 20:13 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light John said: “There have been lots of press reports of medics advising not to use computers late at night

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

2016-06-22 Thread Ed Price
of the letter “c” that you find attached to the end of your latest status report? Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:59 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FW: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm

[PSES] FW: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

2016-06-22 Thread John Woodgate
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:46 PM To: 'John Allen' Subject: RE: [PSES] AMA Warns

[PSES] FW: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-27 Thread John Woodgate
With best wishes OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:50 PM To: 'Scott Xe' Subject: RE: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 If a stan

[PSES] New 'white space' rules for FCC FW: New notification G/TBT/N/USA/1094

2016-03-30 Thread Crane, Lauren
I thought some in this group might be interested in this FCC proposal (notification is from the EU WTO monitor). Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: grow-tbt-mail...@ec.europa.eu [mailto:grow-tbt-mail...@ec.europa.eu] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:31 AM To: Crane, Laur

[PSES] FW: [PSES] Pre-Amp mounted to antenna

2016-03-16 Thread Ed Price
I have used these in the past, with excellent results. MiniCircuits Model ZFBT-4R2G+, 3 SMA ports, 10 MHz-4200 MHZ (I used them in the 30 MHz to 2 GHz range), currently $60 each, stock. Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA From: Brent DeWitt [mailto:bdew...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday,

[PSES] Fw: new message

2015-10-29 Thread Lesleigh Campanale
Hello! New message, please read Lesleigh Campanale - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list,

[PSES] Fw: new message

2015-10-29 Thread Lesleigh Campanale
Hello! New message, please read Lesleigh Campanale - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send

[PSES] Fw: new message

2015-10-29 Thread Lesleigh Campanale
Hello! New message, please read Lesleigh Campanale - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send y

[PSES] FW: [PSES] QP Detector - how to confirm accuracy & functionality

2015-10-20 Thread Ed Price
I believe that you can fully characterize the response of a QP detector by exposing it to a regimen of varying pulse widths and repetition rates. I used an HP-85650A external Quasi-Peak detector module (perhaps obsolete now), and here is HP's advice on the response characteristics for compliance wi

[PSES] Fw: new message

2015-10-08 Thread Jones Richard
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Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-14 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
eezer. And a hardness test to see if the stuff in the cold drawer stays colder at it should or freezes. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday 14 September 2015 13:27 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Pape

Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-14 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
15 13:27 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing In message <033d01d0eeda$824d0030$86e70090$@acbcert.com>, dated Mon, 14 Sep 2015, Michael Derby writes: >Well, once the document is finalised, I think it will be very impor

Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message <033d01d0eeda$824d0030$86e70090$@acbcert.com>, dated Mon, 14 Sep 2015, Michael Derby writes: Well, once the document is finalised, I think it will be very important to speak with standards committees, Notified Body groups, test lab associations and manufacturer forums, etc. Of cour

Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-14 Thread Michael Derby
me form and finally posted on the EMCTLA website, I will be happy to e-mail a link to it, on this group. Thanks, Michael. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 11 September 2015 10:13 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: EM

Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message <55f2db46.8040...@earthlink.net>, dated Fri, 11 Sep 2015, CR writes: Experience has convinced me that adhering to a _customer's_ test plan, just as the customer wrote it, is thought to relieve test labs of liability for noncompliance with standards to which those plans claim compl

Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-11 Thread CR
On 9/11/2015 4:32 AM, McCallum, Andy wrote: Abstract: The EMC testing industry is mature but test labs are simply not testing products as per the requirements of standards. Experience has convinced me that adhering to a _customer's_ test plan, just as the customer wrote it, is thought to

Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Fri, 11 Sep 2015, "McCallum, Andy" writes: Have sent you copy of white paper in separate email. Maybe Michael can provide you with an answer on the standards issue. Thank you. The point is that standards won't be improved if no-one says they need it. -- OOO - Own Opini

Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-11 Thread McCallum, Andy
: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing In message , dated Fri, 11 Sep 2015, "McCallum, Andy" writes: >The EMC test house association has produced a white paper for >discussion on Modes of operation for EMC testing. Be interested to hear >yo

Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Fri, 11 Sep 2015, "McCallum, Andy" writes: The EMC test house association has produced a white paper for discussion on Modes of operation for EMC testing. Be interested to hear your comments – I can provide a pdf copy on request. Yes, please. Is EMCTLA planning to take

[PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-11 Thread McCallum, Andy
All The EMC test house association has produced a white paper for discussion on Modes of operation for EMC testing. Be interested to hear your comments – I can provide a pdf copy on request. The abstract reads: Abstract: The EMC testing industry is mature but test labs are simply not testing p

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Gotta love good ol' Reddy Kilowatt From: John Allen [mailto:jral...@productsafetyinc.com] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:50 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track Thanks Rich!  The video was great!  

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Allen
@ieee.org> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:49 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FW: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track Rich, Thanx for chasing the video's. My kids saw Hagagrd's live demo in the 70&#

[PSES] FW: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Pete Perkins
Rich, Thanx for chasing the video's. My kids saw Hagagrd's live demo in the 70's and I met him briefly when I picked them up. We'll have to see how to fit some of this in. :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal P

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Allen
ecure product safety and Read more... From: Kevin Robinson Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:30 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track About 10-15 years ago, there was an advertising video

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Kevin Robinson
About 10-15 years ago, there was an advertising video for a Bapco Safety Analyzer that was making the rounds. As I recall the President of the company said he had all of his sales engineers experience what high leakage current felt like by having them hold on to the bare conductors of a circuit

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Woodgate
In message <000c01d0de82$1350c6c0$39f25440$@cs.com>, dated Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Pete Perkins writes: But I do get to describe my own reaction to electric shock (bus not as satisfying for the audience). You could show a video, with sound effects. (;-) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes

[PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Pete Perkins
John, et al, Well, no demonstration... Looked into it several years ago and the IEEE didn't want to cover the liability for such. Too, bad, I've always felt that EE product folks should always know what allowable electric shock feels like. But I do get to describe my own reaction to elec

[PSES] FW: ISO TC 15223-1 TR 60878 iso/CD 15223-1

2015-07-31 Thread Gary McInturff
Can anyone tell me the difference between these two documents ISO TC 15223-1 and TR 60878 The both have similar titles and scopes I have the 15223-1 document but can only read the scope of the TR 60878, which is similar to the 15223-1 also. I don't want to purchase another standard if the one I

[PSES] FW: [PSES] Nameplate and DoC requirements Machinery Directive

2015-03-16 Thread Pete Perkins
Brian et al, Too bad you are getting beat-up by some local authorities (in France, altho that's probably not the only place where such folks push their authority). Altho Rich Nute recommended getting the references for the requirements (which is a good idea) it may not come from the compl

[PSES] FW: [PSES] OSM decision

2015-01-26 Thread Pete Perkins
Rich, et al, I wouldn't be so quick to claim that dc systems will not have transient voltages on them. I recently worked on a certification project that included solar panels feeding power back into the line to make the overall project 'greener'. In commercial systems

[PSES] FW: [PSES] Open Protective Earth Conductor Fault

2014-11-13 Thread Pete Perkins
Ron, et al, Most product standards specify low levels of touch current to protect users from injury - whether direct electric shock injury or even getting caught up and not be able to let go of the electrical unit. Worse is going into VF (Ventricular Fibrillation) which require

Re: [PSES] Fw: [PSES] California Prop 65

2014-10-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message <9be23e9ea1124ad19730e503fa709...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> , dated Fri, 3 Oct 2014, Brian Oconnell writes: It my professional recommendation is that the Kalifornia wines be considered HAZMAT. Mr. Woodgate should pursue the local 'micro-brew' ales - the better microb

Re: [PSES] Fw: [PSES] California Prop 65

2014-10-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message <1412285639.63431.yahoomail...@web141402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, dated Thu, 2 Oct 2014, FW Miller <012cd6de8c7b-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> writes: First, my sympathies in that you have to go to LA: the Bay Area's weather will be much better by comparison. As

Re: [PSES] Fw: [PSES] California Prop 65

2014-10-02 Thread Brian Oconnell
#x27;Santa Ana' - but temps should be under 38C. Good time to verify ESD immunity of your equipment. Brian From: FW Miller [mailto:012cd6de8c7b-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:34 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Fw: [PSES] California Prop

[PSES] Fw: [PSES] California Prop 65

2014-10-02 Thread FW Miller
, Trypsin, etc.) in the wine, you & your lead John, will look good by comparison! And, you may be able to hail a taxi faster with wine in hand... FW Miller On Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:48 AM, John Woodgate wrote: In message <86089981.284126.1412263641329.javamail.r...@comcast.net

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