Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

Jon, Jon Elson wrote: > John Kasunich wrote: > > >> This subject seems to come up every month or two. The answer is and >> will probably always be the same. >> >> Yes, it is possible to make a box that lives outside the PC and can >> queue up enough motion "in advance" that it doesn't requir

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Engvall wrote: > On Oct 30, 2008, at 9:06 PM, John Kasunich wrote: > > >> Dave Engvall wrote: >> >> ay have to try something else. Will check for a menu. >> >>> After the comments (JMK) this afternoon about problems with the Mazak >>> at Galesburg I >>> tried running a program on my m

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

On Oct 30, 2008, at 9:06 PM, John Kasunich wrote: > Dave Engvall wrote: > > ay have to try something else. Will check for a menu. >> >> After the comments (JMK) this afternoon about problems with the Mazak >> at Galesburg I >> tried running a program on my machine while doing other things. >> Th

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Engvall wrote: ay have to try something else. Will check for a menu. > > After the comments (JMK) this afternoon about problems with the Mazak > at Galesburg I > tried running a program on my machine while doing other things. > The program was a pretty generic mill a bunch of identical bl

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

John Kasunich wrote: > This subject seems to come up every month or two. The answer is and > will probably always be the same. > > Yes, it is possible to make a box that lives outside the PC and can > queue up enough motion "in advance" that it doesn't require realtime > performance from the P

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Houghton wrote: > Jon wrote > > Because the latency test is a realtime application, and so is EMC2. You > can't run two realtime apps a the same time. > > Regards. > > John Kasunich > > > Hi John > > Thanks John. So these computer's are not as good as they think they are! > You CAN, actua

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

Dave Caroline wrote: > The amount of data one could put in a USB microframe, may allow for > more loops per frame so make it easier > I can see some ways that one could export the software step generation to a USB parallel port. Both the FTDI2232 and the Cypress 7C68013 (EZ-USB FX2 chip) can t

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

On Oct 30, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Dave Engvall wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> Interesting idea to run for a long time. My numbers get bad enough >> even in a short time. >> I've installed the patched .ko for Ubuntu 6.06 smi and that improved >> things greatly. >> However, I'm still getting

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Houghton wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ > It (terminal) will not allow me to 'Backspace' or 'delete' > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ > I think I'm really missing something here. > Mostly you can't. (Actually you can, if you really want to, but it is a little complicated.) That string is your "prompt

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Engvall wrote: > > > Hi, > Interesting idea to run for a long time. My numbers get bad enough > even in a short time. > I've installed the patched .ko for Ubuntu 6.06 smi and that improved > things greatly. > However, I'm still getting realtime messages. Can someone point me to > a chec

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

alan, have you considered replacing the fan? this seems like the cheapest solution to me :-D and you could probably find a complete heatsink with fan for your laptop on ebay, people part out laptops alot on there. - This SF.N

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Tomp wrote. Dave sorry if it sounds fatalistic i had tried every trick known before this test, and began with a system that seemed a good bet i ran no cnc at same time the results on the wiki are my best 1 day run, i think they are marginal for stepper system the result on same box after that w

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Houghton wrote: > Tomp wrote > > dave, > yes, my test was running those programs > but just idle, i was gone for a week > and while idle it went 'over the top' > > 32K > so (imo) it doesnt matter much that you would never use those apps > i wasnt there to touch a key/open a file/drag a sc

Re: [Emc-users] EMC pumpkin

Darn, I was too late! 2008/10/30 Sven Wesley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's a must, isn't it? :) > > http://lumenlab.com/2008/10/pumpkin/ > - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the

[Emc-users] EMC pumpkin

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Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Houghton wrote: >Tomp wrote > >dave, >yes, my test was running those programs >but just idle, i was gone for a week >and while idle it went 'over the top' > > 32K >so (imo) it doesnt matter much that you would never use those apps >i wasnt there to touch a key/open a file/drag a screen for

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Tomp wrote dave, yes, my test was running those programs but just idle, i was gone for a week and while idle it went 'over the top' > 32K so (imo) it doesnt matter much that you would never use those apps i wasnt there to touch a key/open a file/drag a screen for a week it was the 'system' t

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

Jim Combs wrote: > BUT, USB is a shared resource. Up to 127 devices can be on the bus and > there is no guarantee of timed delivery. > > You could identify the device a as a video interface and the USB bus would > allocate specific bandwidth to an interface. > > Making a USB based IO EMC2 hardware

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Houghton wrote: >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> > the wiki page 'latency-test' says > Let the test run for at least 15 minutes while you r

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

John Harris wrote: > Hi Jim, > I'm very interested in your proposed project, of moving the > 'Real Time' out of the box and into a USB replacement for the parallel port > breakout board. > > I design motorized microscope XY stages and focus knob drives for Z, with a > 3-axis control

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Andre' wrote They are assuming that while the machine is running a part you could be designing the next part in a CAD program, while playing some background music, and downloading a full length movie. I always assumed the latency test, EMC and Stepconf all use the same parts of the real time

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Jon wrote Because the latency test is a realtime application, and so is EMC2. You can't run two realtime apps a the same time. Regards. John Kasunich Hi John Thanks John. So these computer's are not as good as they think they are! Regards Dave ---

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

Hi Jim, I'm very interested in your proposed project, of moving the 'Real Time' out of the box and into a USB replacement for the parallel port breakout board. I design motorized microscope XY stages and focus knob drives for Z, with a 3-axis controller running from a USB port. I al

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

> ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > the wiki page 'latency-test' says Let the test run for at least 15 minutes while you run glxgears or a similar application t

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

At 12:44 PM 10/30/2008, you wrote: > > > > Now it says I should "abuse" the computer to find the worst case. > > > > But do not run EMC2 or Stepconf. > > > > Right now I have two questions. > > 1. Why would I what to do any thing to make it worst? > > 2. Why can I not run EMC2 and/or Stepconf. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Houghton wrote: > > -Original Message- > From: Wayne Parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 October 2008 06:25 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test > > Dave Houghton wrote: >> In general, you're supposed to type only what's after the

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Houghton wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Wayne Parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 October 2008 06:25 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test > > Dave Houghton wrote: > >> In general, you're supposed to type only what's after th

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

-Original Message- From: Wayne Parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 06:25 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test Dave Houghton wrote: > In general, you're supposed to type only what's after the $ (or #, if > you're supposed to do

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

Guess it would do well for me to sign my message! BUT, USB is a shared resource. Up to 127 devices can be on the bus and there is no guarantee of timed delivery. You could identify the device a as a video interface and the USB bus would allocate specific bandwidth to an interface. Making a USB

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

BUT, USB is a shared resource. Up to 127 devices can be on the bus and there is no guarantee of timed delivery. You could identify the device a as a video interface and the USB bus would allocate specific bandwidth to an interface. Making a USB based IO EMC2 hardware controller would be the way

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

-Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 06:42 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test Jon wrote> You may have to type the command like this : ./latency-test depending on how you downloaded and unpacked

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

-Original Message- From: John Kasunich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 06:24 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test "[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~" is your command line prompt. You don't want to get rid of it. That is your system's way

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

The amount of data one could put in a USB microframe, may allow for more loops per frame so make it easier Dave Caroline - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux ba

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Houghton wrote: > Hello everyone > > I didn't get far trying to set up EMC2 > > I decided to do the Latency Test first, having read both sets of > instructions. 'Configuration Wizard for Steeper Machines' & 'EMC2 Getting > Started' both have identical instructions regarding the Latency Test. >

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

alan wrote: > So any suggestions for a cheap replacement computer. What is the > smallest, cheapest desktop or laptop with a parallel port? I thought > about using a pc/104 card but again here in the UK they seem to be quite > expensive? Has anyone got experience using pc/104 ? > Stuart Stevenso

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Engvall wrote: > On Oct 30, 2008, at 8:41 AM, tomp wrote: > > >> Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: >> >>> Dave Houghton wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello everyone I didn't get far trying to set up EMC2 I decided to do the Latency Test first, having read both sets of >>

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

Chris - what is a typical number of pulses per second that EMC2 can generate on one of these with 256Mb of RAM? I'd like to compare it to what I am currently using. Andy Chris Radek wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 02:10:59PM +, alan wrote: >> I have built an ornamental turning lathe with s

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Houghton wrote: > In general, you're supposed to type only what's after the $ (or #, if > you're supposed to do things as root). Everything before the $ is the > prompt printed by the terminal program. So you should be typing only > "latency-test" (without the quotes). What are numbers ar

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

> Thanks for the "super quick" response. > OK I understand, now how do I get rid of: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ > It (terminal) will not allow me to 'Backspace' or 'delete' > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ > I think I'm really missing something here. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~" is your command line prompt. You don'

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 & Linux OS

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:27 +0200, Dave Houghton wrote: > Thanks for you're reply and help, I'll soon know what I'm talking about. Well, that'll make one of us! Thanks, Matt - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Y

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

Jeff Epler wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:34:36PM +, alan wrote: >> So really my query is also about the future. Where will emc go if >> parallel ports become a thing of the past? > > It can go into embedded systems that are as powerful as today's desktop > PCs, but with appropriate I/O

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

-Original Message- From: Stephen Wille Padnos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 05:13 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test Dave Houghton wrote: >Hello everyone > >I didn't get far trying to set up EMC2 >I decided to do the Latenc

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

On Oct 30, 2008, at 8:41 AM, tomp wrote: > Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: >> Dave Houghton wrote: >> >> >>> Hello everyone >>> >>> I didn't get far trying to set up EMC2 >>> >>> I decided to do the Latency Test first, having read both sets of >>> instructions. 'Configuration Wizard for Steeper Machi

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > Dave Houghton wrote: > > >> Hello everyone >> >> I didn't get far trying to set up EMC2 >> >> I decided to do the Latency Test first, having read both sets of >> instructions. 'Configuration Wizard for Steeper Machines' & 'EMC2 Getting >> Started' both have identica

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test

Dave Houghton wrote: >Hello everyone > >I didn't get far trying to set up EMC2 > >I decided to do the Latency Test first, having read both sets of >instructions. 'Configuration Wizard for Steeper Machines' & 'EMC2 Getting >Started' both have identical instructions regarding the Latency Test. > >Qu

[Emc-users] Latency Test

Hello everyone I didn't get far trying to set up EMC2 I decided to do the Latency Test first, having read both sets of instructions. 'Configuration Wizard for Steeper Machines' & 'EMC2 Getting Started' both have identical instructions regarding the Latency Test. Quote "To run the test, from Appl

[Emc-users] pumpkin carving with EMC2

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Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

fan alan wrote: > The fan on my laptop quit the other day so I started looking around for > a replacement computer. Looking on the Ebuyer website here in the UK it > seems that most new laptops (especially the smaller ones) now only have > usb outputs. There is a wonderful little acer computer just

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

Jack Coats wrote: > If you get a little brave, design a smaller case that is more > appropriate. Wood is good! > Put a good fan or two in it with filters, and keep a 'positive pressure' > in the case. This will > keep much of the dust/dirt/chips out. > Personally I wouldn't go for wood - meta

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

If you get a little brave, design a smaller case that is more appropriate. Wood is good! Put a good fan or two in it with filters, and keep a 'positive pressure' in the case. This will keep much of the dust/dirt/chips out. In the OLD days before the IBM PC was a dream in Boca Raton FL, a guy

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 02:10:59PM +, alan wrote: > > I have built an ornamental turning lathe with stepper control, on a > moveable stand and I am really looking for something that sits on a > narrow shelf under the lathe next to my stepper controller box. So I am > looking for a eorocard or

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 08:00 -0500, Jeff Epler wrote: > Cast-off Pentium-III or AMD Athlon desktops are probably the best > systems to seek out to run emc today. > I have come to appreciate that this is the case. I even have an Athlon that I can use (if I can persuade my wife to give it back) but I

Re: [Emc-users] EMC BDI CD Burn

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 05:45, John Domville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had a copy of Linux already running on my CNC dedicated computer long > before the disk arrived from SHERLINE. (No ECM2 on the computer) I had down > loaded the ISO image to another Windows (XP Pro) computer and with that >

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

As others have said, laptops have issues. Dumpster diving and using discards from offices is probably the cheapest way to support this habit :) Eventually, I see EMC2 going to a 'client server' model, taking the real time portion and putting it in an external controller, like a pc/104 or even a

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 08:00, Jeff Epler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:34:36PM +, alan wrote: >> So really my query is also about the future. Where will emc go if >> parallel ports become a thing of the past? > > It can go to systems that still have parallel ports, ev

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 & Linux OS

-Original Message- From: Jason Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 09:06 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 & Linux OS how about JeOS (Ubuntu cut down from their site). It is designed for appliances and has a 300meg footprint if I reme

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 & Linux OS

-Original Message- From: Matt Shaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 03:43 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 & Linux OS On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 23:54 +0200, Dave Houghton wrote: > There is a distro called Puppy Linux is this the same yo

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:34:36PM +, alan wrote: > So really my query is also about the future. Where will emc go if > parallel ports become a thing of the past? It can go to systems that still have parallel ports, even after they become unusual in new consumer PCs. It can go to systems wher

[Emc-users] Parallel port in the future - query

The fan on my laptop quit the other day so I started looking around for a replacement computer. Looking on the Ebuyer website here in the UK it seems that most new laptops (especially the smaller ones) now only have usb outputs. There is a wonderful little acer computer just released very small, on

Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD

Ah, I figured it out. Your first link was to caelinux.org, which brings you to the wiki page. caelinux.com brings up the page that talks about SALOME. Mark At 07:18 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: >Strange you didn't see a link. It's right there on first page at > >http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/ > >Y

Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD

Strange you didn't see a link. It's right there on first page at http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/ You have two options. Get full set of CAE software on a LiveDVD or download Salome only as separate package which would run on any Linux distro from this page - http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/index.php?op

Re: [Emc-users] EMC BDI CD Burn

I had a copy of Linux already running on my CNC dedicated computer long before the disk arrived from SHERLINE. (No ECM2 on the computer) I had down loaded the ISO image to another Windows (XP Pro) computer and with that computer burn it to a CD. That CD would not boot on the LINUX CNC machine. So

Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD

I'm planning on doing the same. Thanks for the link! Mark At 05:52 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: >Mark, > >Link to Salome cad. I am not familiar with this software at this >point but I will be testing. >http://www.salome-platform.org/home/presentation/overview/ > >Reg > > > >On Thu, Oct 30,

Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD

Mark, Link to Salome cad. I am not familiar with this software at this point but I will be testing. http://www.salome-platform.org/home/presentation/overview/ Reg On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 08:52 PM 10/29/2008, you wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD

With a little more digging, I found this on the caelinux site: There weren't any direct links to it, but I ended up finding it using the search box. Mark Mark At 05:46 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: >is it this ?

Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD

is it this ? http://www.salome-platform.org/home/presentation/overview/ Dave Caroline - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK &

Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD

At 08:52 PM 10/29/2008, you wrote: >The tool I end up with is SALOME. See caelinux.org. It is real 3D CAD as >BRL-CAD. Compare to BRL-CAD, SALOME has advantages of quite advanced >GUI, support for stl, iges and step formats, faster renderer and does >not require drag on intermediate objects that m

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 & Linux OS

how about JeOS (Ubuntu cut down from their site). It is designed for appliances and has a 300meg footprint if I remember correctly. Jason On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 21:42 -0400, Matt Shaver wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 23:54 +0200, Dave Houghton wrote: > > There is a distro called Puppy Linux is this