Re: [Emc-users] Gantrykins + 5axiskins

2010-09-02 Thread Viesturs Lācis
My personal opinion: If You have double joints on all 3 linear axis, it might be easier to modify a kinematics module, where You explicitly assign particular joint to particular axis in forward/inverse kinematics calculations. That is how my gantry setup is working. Viesturs 2010/9/2 Lars Levin :

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Igor Chudov
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Igor Chudov wrote: >> >> >> This is pretty much OK with me. Now, what about interpolation. Say, I >> issue a command G1 X1 Y1 W1, would it move on a straight line? >> > Assuming your W is precisely normal to the XY plane of motion, you > would ge

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Stuart Stevenson
if each of the axes is perfectly straight you will get a straight line even if the axes are not ortogonal. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Igor Chudov wrote: > > > > > > This is pretty much OK with me. Now, what about interpolation. Say, I > > issue a command G1 X1 Y1 W1, wou

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: > > > This is pretty much OK with me. Now, what about interpolation. Say, I > issue a command G1 X1 Y1 W1, would it move on a straight line? > Assuming your W is precisely normal to the XY plane of motion, you would get interpolation of a straight line. All axes would acceler

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Ed
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Ed wrote: > > >>On a completely mechanical note, be aware that the Z and W may not be >>parralel. If you feed Z then feed W you may end up with a bore that has >>a kink in it. I suppose you could feed both at the same time and get a >>dia

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Igor Chudov
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Igor Chudov wrote: >> So, my question is, does EMC2 support "two Z axes" and if so, what >> sorts of EMC2 facilities would I need for this. Different kinematics? >> > It would be much better to make the knee the W axis (auxiliary linear > axis par

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Ed wrote: > > On a completely mechanical note, be aware that the Z and W may not be > parralel. If you feed Z then feed W you may end up with a bore that has > a kink in it. I suppose you could feed both at the same time and get a > diagonal bore. ;-) Didn't Stuart

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Ed
Jon Elson wrote: > Igor Chudov wrote: > >>So, my question is, does EMC2 support "two Z axes" and if so, what >>sorts of EMC2 facilities would I need for this. Different kinematics? >> > > It would be much better to make the knee the W axis (auxiliary linear > axis parallel > to the Z axis). E

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: > So, my question is, does EMC2 support "two Z axes" and if so, what > sorts of EMC2 facilities would I need for this. Different kinematics? > It would be much better to make the knee the W axis (auxiliary linear axis parallel to the Z axis). EMC2 has facilities to handle an

Re: [Emc-users] Jog behavior in EMCrsh

2010-09-02 Thread Owen Merrick
Eric, Thanks for looking into it. I think i've figured it out. SET_WAIT ON + SET JOG == crashing your machine. It seems that when EMC is set to SET_WAIT on it stops listening for any other commands until the given command completes. Since a jog doesn't complete, it just goes until it crash

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Chris Radek
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 05:15:10PM -0500, Igor Chudov wrote: > > So, basically, EMC2 can use Z and W simultaneously with themselves and > other axes, right? > > So I could say > > G1 X1 Y2 Z3 W4 F5 > > and it would move as would be expected? Yes! As long as you expect the right thing, heh. T

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Igor Chudov
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Igor, >  You have options with EMC2. You can use two different configuration files. > One configuration file to position the knee and use the quill as the Z axis > as Stephan suggests. Another configuration file to use the knee as the Z > a

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Andy Pugh
On 2 September 2010 22:53, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: >> Different kinematics? >> etc >> > No, but there is the "W" axis, which is defined as a linear axis > parallel to Z.  You could position W to get the right "range", and still > use the quill for Z. I think you could probably create a kine

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Igor Chudov
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > Igor Chudov wrote: >> My Bridgeport Series II Interact 2 CNC mill has a Z axis in the quill. >> >> http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Bridgeport-Series-II-Interact-2-CNC-Mill/ >> >> It has Z travel of only about 4.8 inches. Which is actual

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Igor, You have options with EMC2. You can use two different configuration files. One configuration file to position the knee and use the quill as the Z axis as Stephan suggests. Another configuration file to use the knee as the Z axis and the quill as the W axis. You can use the tool length com

Re: [Emc-users] Can I make my joystick control its own feedrate?

2010-09-02 Thread rng3
Hello Igor, For a way to add incremental moves take a look here... http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Adding_More_Controls_To_Simple_Remote_Pendant I use the number 4 button with a joystick combination to make incremental jog moves. >From the article... We decided to make our inc

Re: [Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Igor Chudov wrote: > My Bridgeport Series II Interact 2 CNC mill has a Z axis in the quill. > > http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Bridgeport-Series-II-Interact-2-CNC-Mill/ > > It has Z travel of only about 4.8 inches. Which is actually adequate > for most of what I do. > > But, the other nice thing t

[Emc-users] Two Z-Axes? (IOW, can I motorize the knee)

2010-09-02 Thread Igor Chudov
My Bridgeport Series II Interact 2 CNC mill has a Z axis in the quill. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Bridgeport-Series-II-Interact-2-CNC-Mill/ It has Z travel of only about 4.8 inches. Which is actually adequate for most of what I do. But, the other nice thing that it has is air assisted knee.

[Emc-users] Gantrykins + 5axiskins

2010-09-02 Thread Lars Levin
Hi Group! I am trying to set up a 5 axis router with double servos on x,y and z. I have a Mesa 3x20 with 3 7i33 servo cards. I have looked at the example file 5axiskins that uses 9 joints xyzabcuvw, but y2 seems to be linked to joint 7,u. Can I make a variant of this with x1y1z1abcx2y2z2, or is

[Emc-users] rtai_shm.ko not found

2010-09-02 Thread Pavol Liška
My question is about "rtai_shm.ko". Im using Ubuntu10.04 from http://www.linuxcnc.org/mozmck/ When I tried to resolve some latency issues I found out that in "rtapi.conf" is missing path for rtai_shm as you can see: MODPATH_rtai_shm= Is this correct or bug. palo --

Re: [Emc-users] Can I make my joystick control its own feedrate?

2010-09-02 Thread Igor Chudov
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:25 AM, rng3 wrote: > Hello Igor, > > To make the joypad even more useful you can add incremental jog moves. > > You can also add deadzones to the joystick to prevent accidentally moving > two axis at one time when you only want to move one. > > By using button combinations

Re: [Emc-users] Can I make my joystick control its own feedrate?

2010-09-02 Thread rng3
Hello Igor, To make the joypad even more useful you can add incremental jog moves. You can also add deadzones to the joystick to prevent accidentally moving two axis at one time when you only want to move one. By using button combinations to make moves, turn spindle on, etc. you add safety to