[Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; Is anyone aware of a quick dirty retrofit kit to brake an AC universal motor when the power is removed? I have a Ryobi BT-3000 table saw, which when kept properly adjusted, does a fine job. Its motor package is a universal motor that drives the blade with a gilmer belt. I

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread Dave
Gene, You were very lucky. Read this link down the page a bit... http://woodworking.com/forum/showthread.php?18869-Miter-Saw-Brake I think after you remove power, if you short out the motor, , the motor will come to a stop. You might want to short it out through a resistor to avoid having

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread doug metzler
I got one of those big old paddle switches: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FFglI1QNcfg/S9Ih9zOBQxI/Ac8/cNo6rBODOkw/s1600/Safety+Stop+Switch+%28Grizzly+H8243%29.PNG and mounted it exactly where my left knee is. The only downside is it's not a magnetic switch, so I left the original magnetic

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread Eric Keller
If you can't discipline yourself to watch it stop, it seems evident that should figure out how to mount an overhead guard. The BT3000 was a really nice saw, but mine developed a sticky off switch after a couple of years. Eric On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:13 AM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread Douglas Pollard
Seems to me the best way to cut off some fingers is to depend on a switch to stop the blade. At some point it will fail and you from habit will stick yore fingers near. Just keep your hands in your pockets until the blade stops. Just like any other safe working habits depend on good

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Is anyone aware of a quick dirty retrofit kit to brake an AC universal motor when the power is removed? Oh, if you want quick and dirty, I already answered that. If you want a faster stop, then a relay that would apply something like 12 VAC from a

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread Peter Blodow
Gene, I suppose that your AC universal motor is an induction motor with a field winding and a cage rotor. (If it were a motor with rotor windings and a brush armature, it would be a AC-DC-universal motor and the following recipe would not apply). When the power supply is cut off, there is no

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread Edward Bernard
Very good point Peter. I've had the same thing happen to me. A lot of angular momentum in a spinning blade. From: Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 1:45:20 PM Subject:

[Emc-users] Can I use Update Manager with EMC?

2011-06-01 Thread Peter Loron
Hello, folks. I'm getting a machine set up for EMC2. I have the 10.04 distro installed and the latency test looks ok so far. Is it ok to apply updates from Update Manager? Is there a subset (kernel, etc) to never update? Thanks. -Pete Issaqah, WA

Re: [Emc-users] Can I use Update Manager with EMC?

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Re: [Emc-users] Can I use Update Manager with EMC?

2011-06-01 Thread Igor Chudov
I update everything every night. It was rather trouble free. i On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Peter Loron pet...@standingwave.org wrote: Hello, folks. I'm getting a machine set up for EMC2. I have the 10.04 distro installed and the latency test looks ok so far. Is it ok to apply updates

Re: [Emc-users] No-kidding CAD/Cam package for milling

2011-06-01 Thread Andy Howell
Gene, I built it from source, What tarball version? I grabbed the latest from the source repository, following the instructions here: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/wiki/BuildWithCmakeOnUbuntu At the bottom of that link there is a script that does it all. If your not using

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 07:08:02 PM Dave did opine: Gene, You were very lucky. That's the way I read it. ;) Read this link down the page a bit... http://woodworking.com/forum/showthread.php?18869-Miter-Saw-Brake I think after you remove power, if you short out the motor, , the

Re: [Emc-users] Can I use Update Manager with EMC?

2011-06-01 Thread Peter Loron
Cool, thanks. On 06/01/2011 02:41 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I update everything every night. It was rather trouble free. i On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Peter Loronpet...@standingwave.org wrote: Hello, folks. I'm getting a machine set up for EMC2. I have the 10.04 distro installed and

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 07:36:24 PM doug metzler did opine: I got one of those big old paddle switches: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FFglI1QNcfg/S9Ih9zOBQxI/Ac8/cNo6rBODOk w/s1600/Safety+Stop+Switch+%28Grizzly+H8243%29.PNG Precisely what I am going to build, but rather than pay

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 07:43:11 PM Eric Keller did opine: If you can't discipline yourself to watch it stop, it seems evident that should figure out how to mount an overhead guard. The BT3000 was a really nice saw, but mine developed a sticky off switch after a couple of years. Eric

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:03:20 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Is anyone aware of a quick dirty retrofit kit to brake an AC universal motor when the power is removed? Oh, if you want quick and dirty, I already answered that. If you want a faster

Re: [Emc-users] Chuck key ( Jacobs? ) for lder version EMCO scroll 3 jaw

2011-06-01 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 06/01/2011 07:05 PM, Rondal Nannie wrote: I have a 3 jaw Emco chuck and would like to know where to buy a chuck key. I have a few Jacob chuck keys but they do not fit. Any Ideas as to where I could locate one or the size Jacob key that is used for these? Thanks in advance Ron Exactly

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread Dave
I have a Delta Chop saw that has a button on the handle. After I am done cutting I can just press the button and the saw comes to a complete and sudden stop. My 12 Dewalt doesn't have a separate button, releasing the trigger does it. Nice, the Delta chop saw I have is one of

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:14:32 PM Peter Blodow did opine: Gene, I suppose that your AC universal motor is an induction motor with a field winding and a cage rotor. Nope. (If it were a motor with rotor windings and a brush armature, it would be a AC-DC-universal motor It is, complete

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:40:41 PM Dave did opine: I have a Delta Chop saw that has a button on the handle. After I am done cutting I can just press the button and the saw comes to a complete and sudden stop. My 12 Dewalt doesn't have a separate button, releasing the trigger

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread cogoman
On 06/01/2011 07:36 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: The resistor I did use when I was building the interface for my mills spindle, because I read someplace that a dead short could result in field demagnetization under the right conditions. There I used a 20 ohm 20 watt

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: Well, I did the deed, and I have verified that when the switch is off, there is a dead short across the receptacle the motor is plugged into. About 20 tests with the saw motor plugged into it, no effect. Unplug the saw motor and plug in a cheap Skil router I have

Re: [Emc-users] Suicide brakes on an AC universal motor?

2011-06-01 Thread Jon Elson
cogoman wrote: *It seemed counter-intuitive to me, but from reading stepper motor controller data sheets I've found that if you short out a winding, the current takes longer to decay than if you put a resistor across it, and make it pump energy into a higher voltage. I don't know how this