Re: [Emc-users] Which encoder to use, heidenhain or US Digital

2011-10-08 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:21:16 -0500, you wrote: Expansion of spindles is a major concern, the high-end machines have chillers for the spindle oil bath. The REALLY high-end ones run chiller water through hollow ballscrews to prevent thermal expansion. Not just spindles - the machine needs to

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread Jon Elson
Bruce Klawiter wrote: Sorry what I meant was .0005 between multiple parts Sure, once you have it dialed in to the best click on the encoder, it should repeat quite well, except for thermal expansion. The machine did not dither or do the jerking with the old Anilam control.Someone said the

Re: [Emc-users] Which encoder to use, heidenhain or US Digital

2011-10-08 Thread Jon Elson
Steve Blackmore wrote: Always makes me smile when I see people talking of making machines with micron accuracy ;) Oh, yeah, the guys with the desktop mills, running steppers with microstepping and all-thread leadscrews, and crowing that they have a machine that is ACCURATE to 25

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 08:48:33PM -0700, Bruce Klawiter wrote: The machine did not dither or do the jerking with the old Anilam control.Someone said the axis might be drifting then snap back into position, I put an indicator on an axis and it holds position and when it jerks it moves about

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, October 08, 2011 04:42:00 PM Chris Radek did opine: On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 08:48:33PM -0700, Bruce Klawiter wrote: The machine did not dither or do the jerking with the old Anilam control.Someone said the axis might be drifting then snap back into position, I put an indicator

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread andy pugh
On 8 October 2011 22:08, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:  And there weren't any wire nuts in sight, just twisted together and taped. I am amazed that you guys use wire nuts, they look so gimcrack compared the the screw clamps that are mandatory here. (This is a typical UK wiring junction

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 08:48:33PM -0700, Bruce Klawiter wrote: The machine did not dither or do the jerking with the old Anilam control.Someone said the axis might be drifting then snap back into position, I put an indicator on an axis and it holds position and when it

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread Peter Blodow
Andy, I had the priviledge to learn home electrics at Muskegon High school in 1966 when I was an exchange student. I could have started a career as an electrician right there but, even at my age of 17, I realized that there must have been a lot more to electricity than what I had learned so

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, October 08, 2011 08:01:44 PM andy pugh did opine: On 8 October 2011 22:08, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: And there weren't any wire nuts in sight, just twisted together and taped. I am amazed that you guys use wire nuts, they look so gimcrack compared the the screw

[Emc-users] Electrical regulations

2011-10-08 Thread Jon Elson
Peter Blodow wrote: Don't speak of wire nuts or other compromises (I can't find gimcracks in my dictionary), it's all . Electrical power supply is a big mess in the US and as long as there is no central legislation it will probably stay that way. You may tell me a lot about different

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: Yikes! Perhaps marginally useful with stranded wire, but cold flow after 6 mo to a year would have me laying awake nights unless your locale has flat outlawed alu wire. Most countries were smart enough to have never IN-LAWED aluminum wire is the smaller sizes, and of

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread Karl Cunningham
On 10/07/2011 08:48 PM, Bruce Klawiter wrote: That sounds as good as it is going to get. Bruce stated that the original machine couldhold .0005 tolerances on parts. I find this hard to believe with an encoder resolution of.0004. Maybe a good machinist could get it to make consistent parts

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, October 08, 2011 11:49:12 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: Yikes! Perhaps marginally useful with stranded wire, but cold flow after 6 mo to a year would have me laying awake nights unless your locale has flat outlawed alu wire. Most countries were smart enough

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Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-08 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: And when going after repairs, I have never been offered a thing with any springs in it, just those little tubes of deoxit (sp?) grease to seal the air out. If I ever have to do that again, I'll definitely ask. They are not OBVIOUS springs, but the parts of the