Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread jeremy youngs
iges, stl , dxf if they didnt want to be able to share files these would not exist. My personal note linux itself exists just to spur one rebellious side to say i dont need your pay as you go sometimes works crap. I would like to extend thatx to those involved in the development of lcnc as this is

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc error message

2012-10-18 Thread jeremy youngs
thanx for the better link jon I was running out the door to work when i responded On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Rick Pereira wrote: >> Hi , I am new to linuxcnc Im having a problem loading the cnc application, >> any help would be great. This is the error code I'm getting.

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread cogoman
On 10/18/2012 02:53 PM, Mark Cason wrote: >Yes, and you will have to be connected to the internet, or it won't > work.:-) And this FEATURE assures that no one can have a trade secret, because you are compelled by law to share your designs. --

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread cogoman
On 10/18/2012 02:30 PM, Dave wrote: > A patent is only good if you can enforce it. If not, it is worthless. Not necessarily. If something like this gets in the way of honest people, but is easily circumvented by the crafty, then it has strong NEGATIVE worth. --

Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital

2012-10-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
tongue in cheek/ if you want exposure think IMTS /tongue in cheek On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Ron Ginger wrote: > > What if we had the vendor part of the workshop at CF, since its already > > running a big vendor exhibit, then had Monday and Tuesday of just CNC > > class

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc error message

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Elson
Rick Pereira wrote: > Hi , I am new to linuxcnc Im having a problem loading the cnc application, > any help would be great. This is the error code I'm getting. > > > [0.00] Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with "lapic" > [0.00] APIC: disable apic facility > This i

Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Elson
Ron Ginger wrote: > What if we had the vendor part of the workshop at CF, since its already > running a big vendor exhibit, then had Monday and Tuesday of just CNC > classroom sessions in a York Hotel? Didnt the EMC guys stay on after > NAMES and meet in Ann Arbor a few times? > Yes, this has

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Elson
Dave wrote: > That is a joke. > > Are they going to put programming into place so that 3D scanners can > recognize copyrighted designs? > Well, of course this only works on the printers of manufacturers that use this "patent". And, I can't imagine companies paying $100K for a printer with this

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Elson
jeremy youngs wrote: > so make the file yourself > No, that's the idea. Unless the file has some kind of encrypted code authorized by the manufacturer of the printer in collaboration with the CAM system, the printer will refuse to print it. Probably the scheme requires that you have a valid l

Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital

2012-10-18 Thread Ron Ginger
On 10/18/2012 1:30 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > I'm > hoping we can figure out some way to have a longer CNC meeting with > multiple > classrooms and get the LinuxCNC group to attend, too. If we could do that > by tagging on to Cabin Fever, that would be OK. What if we had the vendor part of the works

Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital

2012-10-18 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
I used to work in York several years back. The main hall (Toyota Hall) is in the middle of a parking lot and is where the Cabin Fever events have been. https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=york+fairgrounds+map+pa&fb=1&gl=us&hq=york+fairgrounds+map&hnear=0x882d80261e32e589:0xc24621475022

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread Mark Cason
On 10/18/2012 01:30 PM, Dave wrote: > That is a joke. > > Are they going to put programming into place so that 3D scanners can > recognize copyrighted designs? Yes, and you will have to be connected to the internet, or it won't work. :-) If this does happen, then it will drive the people w

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:17 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: > so make the file yourself > -- > Whole thing seems like a non-starter. Is this going to be like DAT, where a musician couldn't even record their own music at full fidelity? The number of parts where it even applies seems somewhat limited.

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread Dave
That is a joke. Are they going to put programming into place so that 3D scanners can recognize copyrighted designs? How long did it take for someone to break the DRM stuff on DVDs?How successful were they in preventing the ripping of CDs? A patent is only good if you can enforce it. If n

Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital

2012-10-18 Thread Dave
I agree that the fairground building in York is almost perfect for that show, but like Ron said it really lacks rooms for classes. The other buildings on the grounds are some distance from the main venue building. I recently drove across the PA turnpike when I moved my daughter to DC and the

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread jeremy youngs
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Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread Mark Cason
On 10/18/2012 12:43 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: > from the woefully uninformed. > AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT THE ACTIVITY Until you run into this: http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/onepercent/2012/10/patent-could-shackle-3d-printers-drm.html -- MC Cason Eagle3D: http:/

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc error message

2012-10-18 Thread jeremy youngs
oen grub edit line Quiet splash lapic you need to turn lapic off this is common http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TroubleShooting -- jeremy youngs -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faste

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread jeremy youngs
from the woefully uninformed. AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT THE ACTIVITY On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:13 PM, doug metzler wrote: > It's all fun and games until the BATFB* finds out > > DougM > > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > .

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc error message

2012-10-18 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 01.10.2012 um 05:02 schrieb Rick Pereira: > Hi , I am new to linuxcnc Im having a problem loading the cnc application, > any help would be great. This is the error code I'm getting. Rick, did you verify your installation does run one of the supplied configurations? if yes, please post /hom

Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Elson
Ed Nisley wrote: > A 3D printer build class, along the lines of what you do with the > mini-mill, could be a lot of fun. Start with, say, a box containing a > Makergear M2 printer: > I'd like to see more on 3-D printers, I've been following the progress of some DLP projector 3-D printers that

Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Elson
Ron Ginger wrote: > Maybe we can start small with getting a few more CNC vendors to the 2013 > show, and scheduling just 4 or 5 talks, and Ill run my build class. We > can talk it up on this and other CNC forums. Any volunteers to give a talk? > OK, assuming no big move to set up a CNC Worksho

[Emc-users] linuxcnc error message

2012-10-18 Thread Rick Pereira
Hi , I am new to linuxcnc Im having a problem loading the cnc application, any help would be great. This is the error code I'm getting. Linux terminated on Error Print file information: RUN_IN_PLACE=no LINUXCNC_DIR= LINUXCNC_BIN_DIR=/usr/bin LINUXCNC_TCL_DIR=/usr/lib/tcltk/linuxcnc LINUXCNC_SCRIP

Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Elson
Matt Shaver wrote: > Jon, other than NAMES, what other shows do you go to for Pico Systems? > I have not been back to NAMES since they left Toledo. Now, at the Yack arena, what a joke! No way I'm going back to that place. So, no, I have not gone to any other shows recently. > Personally, if

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread doug metzler
It's all fun and games until the BATFB* finds out DougM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . *Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Freezer Brackets On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM, craig wrote: > On 10/16/2012 7:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 16 October 2012 22:23:47 Ed Nisley did

Re: [Emc-users] Crowdsourced mass CNC produced private weapons

2012-10-18 Thread craig
On 10/16/2012 7:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2012 22:23:47 Ed Nisley did opine: > >> On 10/16/2012 06:35 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: >>> having some real fun with their 3D printers! >> Oh, no, that's not fun. It's *practice* for serious projects! >> >> Like, for example, we decided

Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital

2012-10-18 Thread Ed Nisley
On 10/18/2012 07:59 AM, Ron Ginger wrote: > Any volunteers to give a talk? I could spiff up my Intro to 3D Printing presentation and do an hour of performance art: http://softsolder.com/2011/10/11/lilug-meeting-presentation/ My talk for the local ACM chapter covered more of the math and modelin

Re: [Emc-users] how much to make this

2012-10-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 October 2012 13:55, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > Remember the mount has > to be adjusted for both tilt and offset so that distance from the > workpiece doesn't cause errors. Yes and no... With the webcam the axis of the spindle is the pixel that doesn't move when you wiggle the spindle back a

Re: [Emc-users] how much to make this

2012-10-18 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
$200 is the import version. The good ones are *MANY* times that. There are no specs on the import but the good ones are tenths reading/accurate. Often w/ replaceable templates so they work as a mini optical comparator (sort of a mini toolmakers microscope reticle.) They were used with jig borers

Re: [Emc-users] how much to make this

2012-10-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 October 2012 13:28, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PARTPG=INSRAR2&PMAKA=240-0404&PMPXNO=487 $200? For that price you can buy and mount a USB Webcam and buy a cheap tablet for the display. Then you have a cheap tablet too. -- atp If you can't fix it, you

Re: [Emc-users] how much to make this

2012-10-18 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: ... and when that surface > is in contact with your part there is no parallax. There is also no light or any way to see the reticle then either;) The commercial ones have magnifying eyepieces too. Heres an import version from enco but it

Re: [Emc-users] how much to make this

2012-10-18 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Marcus Bowman wrote: > Richard, > Interesting device, but... > To avoid errors, I would have thought you need to eyeball the centre dot > directly, from above, otherwise the axis of eyeball and dot is at an angle > and will only be coincident with the spindle axi

Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital

2012-10-18 Thread Ron Ginger
Attaching the CNC workshop to an existing event like Cabin Fever does have advantages. They already manage about 200 vendors, so handling a few more is simple. The existing vendors are selling things like tools and machines and metal stock, so they are very compatible with the CNC aspect. They

Re: [Emc-users] how much to make this

2012-10-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 October 2012 08:24, Marcus Bowman wrote: > Interesting device, but... > To avoid errors, I would have thought you need to eyeball the centre dot > directly, from above, otherwise the axis of eyeball and dot is at an angle > and will only be coincident with the spindle axis at one point al

Re: [Emc-users] how much to make this

2012-10-18 Thread Marcus Bowman
Richard, Interesting device, but... To avoid errors, I would have thought you need to eyeball the centre dot directly, from above, otherwise the axis of eyeball and dot is at an angle and will only be coincident with the spindle axis at one point along that axis. I use a "proper" centering scope

Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux

2012-10-18 Thread Peter Blodow
Bruce, here ist the answer concerning the NC Box 189 from Taiwan. Too much fuss for me to order one from far east, though. I want to have a local distributor to talk with just in case. Peter Blodow -Original Message- From: Anthony_DMP [mailto:anth...@dmp.com.tw] Sent: Monday, October 15,