Re: [Emc-users] polyurethane resin casting

2013-10-02 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:33:55 -0700, you wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 18:23 -0600, Gregg Eshelman wrote: How about trying a different resin? Call Smooth-On and see if they have any recommendations that may fit your needs. Or perhaps an epoxy might work better? There are many manufacturers of

[Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread andy pugh
The PSU on my milling machine blew up again last night. This is the second time it has happened. I haven't pulled the box out of the machine yet, but I expect to see this again: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/xxfP_tT7Ae0op6GxUhSDvtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink Which is a power

Re: [Emc-users] polyurethane resin casting

2013-10-02 Thread Erik Friesen
So far, I have realized a number of mistakes. #1. I didn't wax the modeling board the first round, so the silicone surface is much too porous. Because of this, the surface releases bubbles during molding process and any residual moisture causes issues as well. #2. The back suction action

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread john d norton
Maybe look into using a starter solinoid maybe 12 or 24 v I know but should handle a fair amount of current failing that could you use all three phase contacts of a three phase contactor or even four contacts if you get the spare as n/o John d norton C/o John Norton Fabs Ltd On 2 Oct 2013, at

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 October 2013 11:09, john d norton j...@jnfabs.co.uk wrote: Maybe look into using a starter solinoid maybe 12 or 24 v I know It really needs to have interlocked NO / NC contacts and be controlled by 240V. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread John Kasunich
Various companies make contactors intended for DC drives. They have a conventional three-pole frame, but the center pole has NC contacts (the two outer poles have conventional NO contacts). The center pole is intended to apply a DB resistor across the motor armature after the outer poles

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 October 2013 13:54, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: Various companies make contactors intended for DC drives. Ah, yes, that looks approximately perfect apart from the cost and the delivery time. (I can't see any on eBay UK) I have ordered the 220VDC rated contactor from RS,

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread jrmitchellj .
The relay or contactor you use must be a break before make style. I like contactors better as the distance between contacts tends to be larger, so more time between break make. A larger value resistor for bleed off might be in order. I usually put a very large value resistor across the power

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread Les Newell
Contactors are generally a lot more robust than relays. Since switching to contactors on my supplies I have never had any welded contact issues. I normally switch the AC before the rectifier instead of the DC. This does mean the smoothing caps are permanently connected to the load but in my

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 October 2013 14:55, jrmitchellj . jrmitche...@gmail.com wrote: The relay or contactor you use must be a break before make style The ones I have been using are meant to be, but they are not force-guided to ensure it. A larger value resistor for bleed off might be in order. I usually put a

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread jrmitchellj .
Large in value sense. --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 “Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies.” — Ron Paul On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 7:47 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 October 2013 14:55, jrmitchellj . jrmitche...@gmail.com wrote: The relay or

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 October 2013 16:00, jrmitchellj . jrmitche...@gmail.com wrote: Large in value sense. The problem here is that my capacitors are large (in both senses) and so a large value resistor will take a long time to discharge the caps. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread John Kasunich
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013, at 10:47 AM, andy pugh wrote: I guess I could use a 250W resistor, which is 30s to 5V, or a 1kW resistor, which is 7.5 seconds to 5V. But both seem wasteful, and I am not sure I have the space. (Also quite expensive:

[Emc-users] Following Error with Steppers

2013-10-02 Thread Russell Brown
I'm getting joint following errors on my Z-Axis when I increase the jog speed above ~1015 mm/min. I also see it on X (and presumably Y) when I increase its max speed to over 2336 mm/min; not quite linear given Z has twice (4mm/rev) the pitch of X (2mm/rev) with the same microstepping (800/rev).

Re: [Emc-users] Following Error with Steppers

2013-10-02 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Russell Brown wrote: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:08:50 +0100 (BST) From: Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Following Error with Steppers

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread Russell Brown
Quoth John Kasunich. $13 gets the same ohms and watts, but can run continuously if needed: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131001379245 That's brilliant... stick a kettle on top and Andy automatically gets a nice cuppa when he's finished making chips :-) -- Regards, Russell

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread Dave Cole
Andy, I think you need to add a sealed in relay on your input power contactor circuit. You start the machine by pushing a power on button which has a seal in contact to hold the contactor in place after the button is released. When the power drops out the contactor drops out and will not

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 October 2013 17:33, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: When the power drops out the contactor drops out and will not pull back in when the power recovers unless you push the power on button. I think I am happy to trust this to HAL. I may add an input to HAL from the contactor

Re: [Emc-users] Following Error with Steppers

2013-10-02 Thread Russell Brown
Quoth Peter C. Wallace. On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Russell Brown wrote: It's a stepper based system using a Mesa 5I25 and the standard BASE_PERIOD of 50us which should allow 20,000 steps per second (according to TFM). There should be no base thread at all with hardware stepgens (it will make

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: I think that the failure mode is that, in the case of a power glitch, the crowbar relay switches and is discharging 300V DC at a fair current, then the power returns and the NC contact tries to break 300V 10A and welds the NC contacts closed. Then the NO contacts close and we

Re: [Emc-users] Following Error with Steppers

2013-10-02 Thread John Thornton
You might post this on the forum in the pncconf section, it does sound like a little bug with pncconf. Is this a 5i25/7i76 combo? You might just try a plain config that is known to work... http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/configs/index.html JT On 10/2/2013 12:26 PM, Russell Brown wrote: Quoth

[Emc-users] CNC meeting near Chicago

2013-10-02 Thread Jon Elson
In case people don't know, there will be a CNC-related meeting October 5th (Saturday) in Wheaton, IL. Contact saku...@gmail.com for more info, or check http://www.osmoces.org/ It is at the IIT Rice campus. I'll be there representing LinuxCNC, and bring along my minimill to demo. I will give a

Re: [Emc-users] Following Error with Steppers

2013-10-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 October 2013 18:26, Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com wrote: loadrt abs names= loadrt lowpass names= This is a stepfconf bug. I can't recall what prompts it. I thought it was fixed. (it tries to load a bunch of components with blank names, and then their pin names collide)

[Emc-users] Highz-720 with Zero3 controller

2013-10-02 Thread RINDERT SCHUTTEN
I have a Highz-720 CNC machine from Heiz in Germany . I cant get EMC to work with it.I run Linux-CNC 2.4.6 I also have another CNC machine for which EMC works perfectly! Any suggestions? Anyone else has this combination? Rindert Schutten Designer/Owner SchuttenWorks

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 October 2013 18:28, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: If this is the case, the contacts will still be welded, so open up the relay and examine it. I will, but as I still have the welded relay from last time, I think I know that it can happen. Normal relays are severely derated

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread John Kasunich
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013, at 01:58 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 2 October 2013 18:28, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: or use a FET to control the dump resistor. I would like to do this, but I am not sure how to wire a FET to discharge the cap when AC power is removed (Whereas an NC

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread Dave Cole
That could work as well. I thought this was part of your safety circuit to bring the power supply voltage down to zero ASAP. As in the motor is running away and I need to kill the drive. Dave On 10/2/2013 1:11 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 2 October 2013 17:33, Dave Cole

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
Just wire the relay to the AC line. Connect the resistor to the COM NC contacts. Relay connects bleeder resistors when AC line is removed. No need to get fancy. Stephen On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: That could work as well. I thought this was

Re: [Emc-users] Crowbars

2013-10-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 October 2013 20:41, Stephen Dubovsky smdubov...@gmail.com wrote: Just wire the relay to the AC line. Connect the resistor to the COM NC contacts. Relay connects bleeder resistors when AC line is removed. No need to get fancy. That was what I thought.

[Emc-users] What does these do?

2013-10-02 Thread Sven Wesley
Power up brakes? There were nine of these at the power source side in the mill I am retrofitting. They are grouped in three. I guess they have something to do with the power-on process. Or energy dumping when stopping the spindle. On top of that I have no idea why they are connected like this.

Re: [Emc-users] What does these do?

2013-10-02 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/10/3 Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com Power up brakes? There were nine of these at the power source side in the mill I am retrofitting. They are grouped in three. I guess they have something to do with the power-on process. Or energy dumping when stopping the spindle. On top of that I

Re: [Emc-users] What does these do?

2013-10-02 Thread Dave Cole
Probably braking resistors for the spindle. The resistors are connected across the 3 phases of the motor to bring the motor to a rapid stop. Looks like they are wired in a Wye or Star connection..One center connection and the three phases which probably connect to a contactor which is

Re: [Emc-users] Following Error with Steppers

2013-10-02 Thread Chris Morley
From: bodge...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 18:47:08 +0100 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Following Error with Steppers On 2 October 2013 18:26, Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com wrote: loadrt abs names= loadrt lowpass names= This

Re: [Emc-users] CNC meeting near Chicago

2013-10-02 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 10/02/2013 12:40 PM, Jon Elson wrote: In case people don't know, there will be a CNC-related meeting October 5th (Saturday) in Wheaton, IL. Contact saku...@gmail.com for more info, or check http://www.osmoces.org/ It is at the IIT Rice campus. I'll be there representing LinuxCNC, and

Re: [Emc-users] CNC meeting near Chicago

2013-10-02 Thread Jon Elson
TJoseph Powderly wrote: Wow, thx Jon need anything? I'm in Elgin, could save you carrying stuff registered / bought tix already I hadnt heard _anything_ about this thx Yes, this is more a mechatronics sort of thing than specifically CNC, but I think there will be significant interest