Re: [Emc-users] rotary table .... has anyone tried this?

2013-11-03 Thread Mark Wendt
Only issue I can see here in this configuration is with tensioning both idlers. If the motor is spinning in either direction, one idler is always going to be tightening the belt, and the other is going to try to be loosening due to driving forces acting on the idler from the belt and the smaller p

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread John Thornton
You only peck tap when doing it by hand. When you machine tap you always go all the way in and back out. It is wise to use good quality taps and inspect the first few cutting edges with a strong glass before use to look for signs of wear like cupping. JT On 11/2/2013 3:50 PM, Gene Heskett wrot

[Emc-users] X-Box 360 Configuration

2013-11-03 Thread Sebastian Bachmann
Hi, We had a Logitech pad on our linuxcnc driven cnc but that unfortunately broke... now we bought a xbox 360 usb gamepad and the config we used before does not work anymore. does anybody has a working config laying around we could use? I would be very thankful :) thanks in advance! -sebastian

Re: [Emc-users] rotary table .... has anyone tried this?

2013-11-03 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I would not use a spring tensioner but rather tension the belt to a permanent fixed tension. Just check it on a regular basis. My experience with spring tensioners is that they will produce backlash or movement because they can. A good belt will have no stretch or very little over the short dist

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-03 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Andy, I am busy with such a design. I think it is called an Orbital drive. I have not cut any parts yet but will start soon. Can you share your experiences with this idea? On 2013/11/03 12:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 2 November 2013 19:47, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >> Andy, >>this is my idea

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - G-Code Meta Compiler

2013-11-03 Thread Tony Zampini
Hi Bertho, A quick question about gcmc. Are the contents of the prologue and epilogue hard-coded into the program? Or can I make them anything I want. Thanks, Tony -Original Message- From: Bertho Stultiens Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 3:10 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) S

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - G-Code Meta Compiler

2013-11-03 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/03/2013 03:08 PM, Tony Zampini wrote: > A quick question about gcmc. Are the contents of the prologue and > epilogue hard-coded into the program? Or can I make them anything I want. They are hard-coded, but you can disable its generation by adding the "-q" option on the command-line. The re

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread ed
John Thornton wrote: > You only peck tap when doing it by hand. When you machine tap you always > go all the way in and back out. It is wise to use good quality taps and > inspect the first few cutting edges with a strong glass before use to > look for signs of wear like cupping. > > JT > The

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling LinuxCNC externally with C++ program

2013-11-03 Thread Walter Cigana
Hi again, So, I have played with the xemc.cc code to uncover some C++ interfaces and I have also played with using linuxcncrsh to control remotely, which is obviously simpler. In my situation, I also need to monitor an analog input which will return a voltage. I have an example of doing somethin

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - G-Code Meta Compiler

2013-11-03 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/03/2013 03:32 PM, Bertho Stultiens wrote: > In principle, it should be possible to alter gcmc to output relative > position code, which subsequently can be reused in other programs. It > has been a thought I have been playing with. To that end,... I just had a look at relative outputs and i

Re: [Emc-users] rotary table .... has anyone tried this?

2013-11-03 Thread dave
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 06:28 -0500, Mark Wendt wrote: > Only issue I can see here in this configuration is with tensioning both > idlers. If the motor is spinning in either direction, one idler is always > going to be tightening the belt, and the other is going to try to be > loosening due to drivi

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-03 Thread Stuart Stevenson
it is a cycloidal drive On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > Andy, > I am busy with such a design. I think it is called an Orbital drive. I > have not cut any parts yet but will start soon. Can you share your > experiences with this idea? > > On 2013/11/03 12:53 AM, andy pu

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-03 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Thats the one!! I knew it has something to do with round and round. On 2013/11/03 05:49 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > it is a cycloidal drive > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Marius Liebenberg > wrote: > >> Andy, >> I am busy with such a design. I think it is called an Orbital drive. I >> ha

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling LinuxCNC externally with C++ program

2013-11-03 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 11/03/2013 08:04 AM, Walter Cigana wrote: > So, I have played with the xemc.cc code to uncover some C++ interfaces and > I have also played with using linuxcncrsh to control remotely, which is > obviously simpler. > > In my situation, I also need to monitor an analog input which will return a >

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 November 2013 12:58:44 John Thornton did opine: > You only peck tap when doing it by hand. When you machine tap you always > go all the way in and back out. It is wise to use good quality taps and > inspect the first few cutting edges with a strong glass before use to > look for signs

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread John Kasunich
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013, at 01:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I can appreciate that John, but my excuse is that I am at least 200 miles > from anyplace I can buy a 'quality' tap that I can eyeball for edge etc > before I drop the card for a 10 pack, one thats strong enough to do that. Gene: You

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 November 2013 13:56:49 John Kasunich did opine: > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013, at 01:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I can appreciate that John, but my excuse is that I am at least 200 > > miles from anyplace I can buy a 'quality' tap that I can eyeball for > > edge etc before I drop the card

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-03 Thread Eric Keller
I'm too lazy to get an igs viewer, is it a harmonic drive? I have a pile of harmonic drives in the basement off of a robot I bought cheap. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > it is a cycloidal drive > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Marius Liebenberg > wrote: > >> And

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: > Now if someone knows where I can buy an 8-32 tap that can tap an 8-32 blind > hole pre-drilled .250" deeper than the needed threads, tapped as deep as > the tap is long and do it repeatedly for a dozen holes before I am rigging > to EDM its broken pieces out of the hole, I

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Dave Cole
Spiral point taps are made for through hole tapping.. they tend to push the chips ahead of the tap. Not good for a blind hole. http://www.shars.com/product_categories/view/2160902/HSS_Spiral_Point_TapsPlug_Style Spiral flute taps work well for blind holes. http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/WIDIA

Re: [Emc-users] X-Box 360 Configuration

2013-11-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 November 2013 12:27, Sebastian Bachmann wrote: > We had a Logitech pad on our linuxcnc driven cnc but that unfortunately > broke... now we bought a xbox 360 usb gamepad and the config we used > before does not work anymore. > does anybody has a working config laying around we could use? I wo

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 November 2013 19:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > And maybe I'm just in a bad mood, its looking more & more as if I'll have > to find about 35 large for a new knee if I want to walk well again. 35k would buy you nicer set of machine tools. How hard can it be to machine a new knee? -- atp If you

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread David Armstrong
On 03/11/13 21:39, andy pugh wrote: > On 3 November 2013 19:31, Gene Heskett wrote: >> And maybe I'm just in a bad mood, its looking more & more as if I'll have >> to find about 35 large for a new knee if I want to walk well again. > 35k would buy you nicer set of machine tools. How hard can it b

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread John Kasunich
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013, at 04:39 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 3 November 2013 19:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And maybe I'm just in a bad mood, its looking more & more as if I'll have > > to find about 35 large for a new knee if I want to walk well again. > > 35k would buy you nicer set of machine to

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-03 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Not harmonic Same concept of two gears - one with one less tooth than the other. All parts are solid - no flexing. Search for orbital drive. On Nov 3, 2013 1:55 PM, "Eric Keller" wrote: > I'm too lazy to get an igs viewer, is it a harmonic drive? I have a > pile of harmonic drives in the basemen

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 November 2013 18:04:07 Jon Elson did opine: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Now if someone knows where I can buy an 8-32 tap that can tap an 8-32 > > blind hole pre-drilled .250" deeper than the needed threads, tapped > > as deep as the tap is long and do it repeatedly for a dozen holes > >

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 November 2013 18:39:01 Dave Cole did opine: > Spiral point taps are made for through hole tapping.. they tend to push > the chips ahead of the tap. Not good for a blind hole. > > http://www.shars.com/product_categories/view/2160902/HSS_Spiral_Point_Ta > psPlug_Style > > Spiral flut

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 November 2013 18:42:31 andy pugh did opine: > On 3 November 2013 19:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And maybe I'm just in a bad mood, its looking more & more as if I'll > > have to find about 35 large for a new knee if I want to walk well > > again. > > 35k would buy you nicer set of m

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 15:40:15 -0500, you wrote: >Spiral point taps are made for through hole tapping.. they tend to push >the chips ahead of the tap. Not good for a blind hole. > >http://www.shars.com/product_categories/view/2160902/HSS_Spiral_Point_TapsPlug_Style > >Spiral flute taps work well f

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: > What do you use for cutting oil in alu? I got this stuff about 20 years ago, called "alum-tap". It is amazing, I have compared hand-tapping with oil and the alum-tap, the effort is about half with the alum-tap. It is probably almost 100 % high-pressure lube. It is a pale bl

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 November 2013 18:46:42 David Armstrong did opine: > On 03/11/13 21:39, andy pugh wrote: > > On 3 November 2013 19:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> And maybe I'm just in a bad mood, its looking more & more as if I'll > >> have to find about 35 large for a new knee if I want to walk well >

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-03 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Stuart > Not harmonic > Same concept of two gears - one with one less tooth than the other. > All parts are solid - no flexing. Hmm, so I don't get it. The ratio is almost one so, right? Flo -- Android is increasing

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Dave Cole
I have a can of "Tap Magic Aluminum" that works better than anything else I have used. Pretty common. I think that even Amazon sells the stuff. Google it and pick your source. Even Walmart has it on their website! Crazy. Dave On 11/3/2013 6:47 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: >>

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 November 2013 20:09:14 Dave Cole did opine: > I have a can of "Tap Magic Aluminum" that works better than anything > else I have used. > Pretty common. I think that even Amazon sells the stuff. Google it and > pick your source. Even Walmart has it on their website! Crazy. > > Dave

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - G-Code Meta Compiler

2013-11-03 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/02/2013 08:10 PM, Bertho Stultiens wrote: >> In the future, would it be possible for you to provide an updated gcmc.exe >> whenever you update the linux version? Or is this asking too much :) > I am going to write a webpage dedicated to gcmc and I hope to be able to > have multiple builds on

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Dave Cole
At some point for hand tapping with a cordless drill, buying expensive taps has diminishing return. If you are doing 5000 holes with controlled feed in a nice mill then buying really good tooling might make perfect sense. But I oftentimes break off taps simply because I jog or twist. Unle

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Dave Cole
>>just got on their spammer list by asking for samples of all 4 You might want to tell them that you need a gallon of the stuff to do a fair comparison.. ;-) Dave On 11/3/2013 8:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 03 November 2013 20:09:14 Dave Cole did opine: > >> I have a can of "Tap Mag

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 November 2013 20:33:39 Dave Cole did opine: > >>just got on their spammer list by asking for samples of all 4 > > You might want to tell them that you need a gallon of the stuff to do a > fair comparison.. ;-) > > Dave Chuckle, I didn't want to push my luck. If it works as well a

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-03 Thread Stuart Stevenson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycloidal_drive this link - with the 11 outer teeth (white) and 10 teeth on the center (moving yellow) gear - gives a 10 to 1 gear reduction between the input (green) shaft and the output (purple) shaft with finer teeth the reduction can be much higher On Sun, Nov 3,

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 91, Issue 13

2013-11-03 Thread richshoop
You comment about McMaster Carr is right on target. Their sales office NEVER closes. They do have good quality material, and they somehow get it to you in record time. If you know someone who is a regular customer, they get a new catalog about every six months, ask to get the old one. It is

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 11/3/2013 2:39 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 3 November 2013 19:31, Gene Heskett wrote: >> And maybe I'm just in a bad mood, its looking more & more as if I'll have >> to find about 35 large for a new knee if I want to walk well again. > > 35k would buy you nicer set of machine tools. How hard can

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: > Chuckle, excellent reasoning Andy, but how long would it take me to learn > the new tools, and how many iterations & material tests would it take to > equal the commercial stuff? Then once we have that estimate, the next > question is do I have that much time left. > > So

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Cole wrote: > At some point for hand tapping with a cordless drill, buying expensive > taps has diminishing return. If you are doing 5000 holes with > controlled feed in a nice mill then buying really good tooling might > make perfect sense. But I oftentimes break off taps simply becaus

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread John Kasunich
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013, at 02:31 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 03 November 2013 13:56:49 John Kasunich did opine: > > > > You really need to get familiar with the McMaster Carr website. They > > tend to sell decent quality stuff, and even if you are so far back in > > the woods that they hav

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-03 Thread Dave Cole
I work with some machine builders and they generally use McMaster Carr for the things that they need either quickly for an "ok" cost or for something that they can't find elsewhere. MC has such a huge range of products and they ship very fast. Many times we would be working on a machine and