Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Way OT: Heater Wire

2017-08-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 August 2017 at 02:54, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Part of my thinking is that what's the point of having an old car if one > upgrades all of the parts. I agree. Hence the acetylene lights and magneto with mica capacitor on my Ner-a-Car. I replaced the selenium rectifiers on my lathe when I CNC-e

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Way OT: Heater Wire

2017-08-01 Thread Dave Cole
For something like this; I don't think that anyone would care if you upgraded it. But they would care if it died again on the highway. This is like ignitions.I have several old cars and I frequently install under cap electronic ignitions. I know they are there, but no one else does. The c

[Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
I rescued (loosely applied term) this compressor as it was being loaded on a neighbor's truck on its way to the dump: http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Sears_Compressor2/ It seems to be in decent shape except the cylinder bores. The plan is to re-sleeve the bores using: http://www.eb

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread Ed
On 08/01/2017 12:41 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I rescued (loosely applied term) this compressor as it was being loaded on a neighbor's truck on its way to the dump: http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Sears_Compressor2/ It seems to be in decent shape except the cylinder bores. The plan is

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 08/01/2017 10:56 AM, Ed wrote: First question is: What machinery do you have to work on this? Vertical mill? Boring head? What size head? Lathe with four jaw? Etc. Oops. Here is my website: http://wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/index.html

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread Bari 00000
Auto and speed shops use a boring bar on a similar mill or a boring jig. The boring jigs require the sleeves to be in the block in order to mount the jig. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMpeo-0Gl9E I had to do a few sleeves a bit larger than yours (4.5" x 9.75") but I only had a .001-.002" to re

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 August 2017 at 18:41, Kirk Wallace wrote: > My first thought is to set up a boring bar and do a straight plunge in Z That is what I would do. But then I have a rather nice boring head. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread Ken Strauss
To mill a hole more than 4 inches deep would seem to be problematic using an endmill plus helically interpolated holes are seldom precisely round. Why wouldn't you use a boring head? The beauty of boring is that it produces a round hole! The cheapie boring heads are hard to adjust but not too ba

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 August 2017 at 19:35, Ken Strauss wrote: > The beauty of boring is that it produces a > round hole! The cheapie boring heads are hard to adjust but not too bad if you > work slowly. Maybe make a special boring tool from one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/KENNAMETAL-BORING-CARTRIDGE-E102AP

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread Ed
Oops. Here is my website: http://wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/index.html The likely mill would be the Shizuoka: http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/ My Zubal might swing it, but it's not CNC yet: http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/ A lathe is the most stable, a

[Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings everybody; One of the things I have noted recently was a correlation between the thread fit, and a commercial bolt screwed into the hole, and I believe it has to do with my use of a peck routine to do the tapping, more pecks=sloppier fit. My spindle doesn't have enough power to drive

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread Ken Strauss
It doesn't answer your question but have you considered using thread forming taps? Certainly no gullets to fill! > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 4:57 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] Q

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 August 2017 at 21:56, Gene Heskett wrote: > I could take the filter out, but I'd have to reduce Pgain by at least 75% > just to keep it from hammering the gears in the head from the perceived > errors in the velocity signal caused by a 5% quadrature timing error > wobble in a 4 step repeatab

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread Stuart Stevenson
You should attempt to mechanically trap the sleeve in the bore. You can leave a shoulder at the bottom of the bore - press the sleeve into the bore - and then machine the top of the sleeve flush with the block. or you can mill/bore a counter bore at the top of the block - turn the sleeve to leav

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 August 2017 at 22:17, andy pugh wrote: > (both have > more than adequate power, though). (This is my milling spindle at the lowest speed and the VFD cranked down, it doesn't lack for torque). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thtDRjgbxRE -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemoni

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread jeremy youngs
.001 interference per inch of diameter. Leave a step in the bottom. Bore to size do doubt worry about honing for sleeve. Pack sleeve full of ice crushed and compacted with a hammer. Place in ziploc bag and fill a container with crushed ice and rock salt place sleeve/ bag deep in ice/rock salt. Wa

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 01 August 2017 17:14:55 Ken Strauss wrote: > It doesn't answer your question but have you considered using thread > forming taps? Certainly no gullets to fill! True Ken, but what is the difference in required torque? I am afraid that if I use a peck routine, it might get stuck and the

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread Ken Strauss
> -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 7:49 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping > > On Tuesday 01 August 2017 17:14:55 Ken Strauss wrote: > > > It doesn'

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread john mcintyre
Good Day All, The international workshop manual suggests that bore and fit oversize pistons. We always used cylinder boring bar such as Van Norman . These boring bars only rotate a cutter at the bottom of the boring bar, also there is adjustable traveling steadies ( called cats paws ) that s

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 01 August 2017 17:17:39 andy pugh wrote: > On 1 August 2017 at 21:56, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I could take the filter out, but I'd have to reduce Pgain by at > > least 75% just to keep it from hammering the gears in the head from > > the perceived errors in the velocity signal caused b

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 01 August 2017 17:19:55 andy pugh wrote: > On 1 August 2017 at 22:17, andy pugh wrote: > > (both have > > more than adequate power, though). > > (This is my milling spindle at the lowest speed and the VFD cranked > down, it doesn't lack for torque). > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 01 August 2017 20:33:11 Ken Strauss wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 7:49 PM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread Ken Strauss
Have you considered using a larger tap drill? A lesser thread depth makes a huge reduction in the required tapping torque without significantly reducing the holding power. Some references (http://www.tapmatic.com/tapping_questions_torque_vs_thread_strength.ydev for example) show that a 50% thread r

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/01/2017 12:41 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I rescued (loosely applied term) this compressor as it was being loaded on a neighbor's truck on its way to the dump: http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Sears_Compressor2/ It seems to be in decent shape except the cylinder bores. The plan is

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 01 August 2017 23:26:31 Ken Strauss wrote: > Have you considered using a larger tap drill? A lesser thread depth > makes a huge reduction in the required tapping torque without > significantly reducing the holding power. Some references > (http://www.tapmatic.com/tapping_questions_torqu

Re: [Emc-users] Question on Z backlash vs rigid tapping

2017-08-01 Thread dave
From the dept of various information: https://www.parlec.com/Parlec/media/technical_specs/Tapping-Speeds-Torque-Requirements.pdf?ext=.pdf http://www.tapmatic.com/tapping_questions_torque_setting_data_for_hss.ydev Dave On 08/01/2017 07:34 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 01 August 2017 20:33:

Re: [Emc-users] Cylinder Boring

2017-08-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 08/01/2017 08:50 PM, Jon Elson wrote: ...snip All this work for a 1 HP compressor? I would think the boring bar can make a much straighter and rounder hole that orbiting with an end mill. Yes, it is more work to keep setting the cutter diameter. I have a soft spot for all machines especia