Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 December 2011 01:15, Dan Field danfi...@roadrunner.com wrote: 1 ea  2465 DMS 1 ea  2465 1 ea  2245A Which one should a garage hobbiest keep?  :-) I don't know, but you might find some information (and probably the manual) here at what appears to be a Tek Scope Wiki.

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 01:30 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 14 December 2011 17:31, cogomancogo...@optimum.net wrote: I don't know how accurate the waveform is, and 25 MHz doesn't sound like much, but it's fast enough to measure the speed of light

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 02:27 PM, gene heskett wrote: According to the blurb, DESCRIPTION: THIS IS A NEW TEKTRONIX VARIABLE OFFSET P6231 ACTIVE PROBE 1.5 GHz IN MANUFACTURER PACKAGING. SOME HOLES IN PACKAGING, INSTRUCTION MANUAL INCLUDED, ALL ACCESSORIES ARE STILL SEALED (SEE PICTURES). SOLD AS-IS.

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 03:46 PM, Dave wrote: On 12/14/2011 11:38 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: On 12/14/2011 11:29 AM, Dave wrote: Why, that's just a few years younger'n my dinosaur! ;-) Mark If you can afford the cash, the newer portable portable digital scopes are really nice. Fluke makes a nice

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 08:15 PM, Dan Field wrote: Since it's gone crazy on Scopes around here. I have 3 units and no clue how to use them nor any accessories. I wanted one just learn some basics but so far I haven't done that. I bought them with my Mill. 1 ea 2465 DMS 1 ea 2465 1 ea 2245A

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/15/2011 02:08 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: Gene, when I was studying physics back in the 60ies and 70ies, the labs of the Technical University of Munich were full of Tek 525's, 545's etc. Earning some extra money during study time at Siemens labs, I found the same models there. Even at this

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-15 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:04:59 AM Peter Blodow did opine: Gene, when I was studying physics back in the 60ies and 70ies, the labs of the Technical University of Munich were full of Tek 525's, 545's etc. Earning some extra money during study time at Siemens labs, I found the same

[Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
A bit off tangent, but Jon's post in the Encoder thread brought something to mind. I recently became the proud papa of a Tektronix 7623A O'scope, purchased off the Bay of E. It's a mainframe storage scope, capable of handling three plugins - two vertical amps and a horizontal timebase. I

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 09:02:43 AM Mark Wendt did opine: A bit off tangent, but Jon's post in the Encoder thread brought something to mind. I recently became the proud papa of a Tektronix 7623A O'scope, purchased off the Bay of E. It's a mainframe storage scope, capable of handling

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 09:42 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 09:02:43 AM Mark Wendt did opine: A bit off tangent, but Jon's post in the Encoder thread brought something to mind. I recently became the proud papa of a Tektronix 7623A O'scope, purchased off the Bay of E.

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, gene heskett wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:42:24 -0500 From: gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes On Wednesday, December

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 10:08 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: The 7623 is a 7000 series plug-in type scope35 years old vertical plugins (and the attenuators, which are socketed) are a dime a dozen... Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics Yep, and fairly easy to find replacement parts for. Mark

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Mark Wendt wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:20:51 -0500 From: Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes On 12/14/2011 10:08 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: The 7623 is a 7000 series plug-in type scope35 years

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 10:17 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Mark Wendt wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:20:51 -0500 From: Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes On 12/14/2011 10:08 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 December 2011 15:17, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: I know, I have a 7704 with a couple 7A26s and the delaying time base plus frequency counter ( 1PPM last time I checked) on a test bench here, bought used, and its been running for 20 years... I can't believe that you work

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 10:39 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 14 December 2011 15:17, Peter C. Wallacep...@mesanet.com wrote: I know, I have a 7704 with a couple 7A26s and the delaying time base plus frequency counter ( 1PPM last time I checked) on a test bench here, bought used, and its been running

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:01:55 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 12/14/2011 09:42 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 09:02:43 AM Mark Wendt did opine: A bit off tangent, but Jon's post in the Encoder thread brought something to mind. I recently became the proud

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 09:02:43 AM Mark Wendt did opine: A bit off tangent, but Jon's post in the Encoder thread brought something to mind. I recently became the proud papa of a Tektronix 7623A O'scope, purchased off

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 11:07 AM, gene heskett wrote: Gene, That's why I bought a 30 year old scope... ;-) I ain't too worried about Tek not honoring the warranty. I'm my own warranty. All the things you said about your Hitachi hold true for my Tek scope. And I've been picking and choosing Tek

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 11:10 AM, gene heskett wrote: That's great news Peter, but what does a fully stuffed 7623 weigh? My Hitachi, which of course is not a storage type, weighs maybe 10 pounds, goes anywhere. Probes won't reach? Stick an upside down 5 gallon paint bucket under it. :)

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Dave
On 12/14/2011 10:47 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: On 12/14/2011 10:39 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 14 December 2011 15:17, Peter C. Wallacep...@mesanet.com wrote: I know, I have a 7704 with a couple 7A26s and the delaying time base plus frequency counter ( 1PPM last time I checked) on a

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 11:29 AM, Dave wrote: Why, that's just a few years younger'n my dinosaur! ;-) Mark If you can afford the cash, the newer portable portable digital scopes are really nice. Fluke makes a nice one that I used to chase down some encoder problems on an SSI installation

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:32:46 AM Peter C. Wallace did opine: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, gene heskett wrote: That's great news Peter, but what does a fully stuffed 7623 weigh? My Hitachi, which of course is not a storage type, weighs maybe 10 pounds, goes anywhere. Probes won't reach?

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:47:19 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 12/14/2011 11:10 AM, gene heskett wrote: That's great news Peter, but what does a fully stuffed 7623 weigh? My Hitachi, which of course is not a storage type, weighs maybe 10 pounds, goes anywhere. Probes won't reach?

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:59:06 AM Dave did opine: On 12/14/2011 10:47 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: On 12/14/2011 10:39 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 14 December 2011 15:17, Peter C. Wallacep...@mesanet.com wrote: I know, I have a 7704 with a couple 7A26s and the delaying time base plus

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 11:58 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:47:19 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 12/14/2011 11:10 AM, gene heskett wrote: That's great news Peter, but what does a fully stuffed 7623 weigh? My Hitachi, which of course is not a storage type, weighs

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 December 2011 16:10, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: That's great news Peter, but what does a fully stuffed 7623 weigh?  My Hitachi, which of course is not a storage type, weighs maybe 10 pounds, That's why I got the 336. It's smaller than a sheet of A4/letter paper. This means I

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:07:51 PM Mark Wendt did opine: On 12/14/2011 11:29 AM, Dave wrote: Why, that's just a few years younger'n my dinosaur! ;-) Mark If you can afford the cash, the newer portable portable digital scopes are really nice. Fluke makes a nice one that

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 12:12 PM, gene heskett wrote: Heck, you don't have to spend any where near that amount to get a Tek portable scope. Check out the Bay of E auction # 360417962464. Mark That is a great price Mark, but its one of those that suffer as described, and now 20 some years old.

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:18:32 PM Mark Wendt did opine: On 12/14/2011 11:58 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:47:19 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 12/14/2011 11:10 AM, gene heskett wrote: That's great news Peter, but what does a fully stuffed 7623 weigh?

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/14/2011 12:19 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:18:32 PM Mark Wendt did opine: On 12/14/2011 11:58 AM, gene heskett wrote: All depends on the kind of lead you're looking for. Your typical passive probe isn't dealing with that kind of stuff. Not sure if

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Mark Wendt wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:09:55 -0500 From: Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes On 12/14/2011 11:58 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:47:19 AM Mark Wendt did

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Peter C. Wallace
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes On 14 December 2011 15:17, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: I know, I have a 7704 with a couple 7A26s and the delaying time base plus frequency counter ( 1PPM last time I checked) on a test bench here, bought used, and its been running for 20 years

[Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread cogoman
Seems like a zillion years ago, when I was young and dumb, I bought a used Phillips PM3212 25MHz triggered sweep dual trace scope from a vendor at the Trenton Computer Fair. I wasn't dumb enough for them though. They sold it without scope leads, so I found some bare copper wire and took it

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 December 2011 17:31, cogoman cogo...@optimum.net wrote:   I don't know how accurate the waveform is, and 25 MHz doesn't sound like much, but it's fast enough to measure the speed of light http://www.physics.umd.edu/icpe/newsletters/n34/marshmal.htm -- atp The idea that there is no

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 02:23:12 PM Peter C. Wallace did opine: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Mark Wendt wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:09:55 -0500 From: Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes On 12/14/2011 11:58 AM

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 02:25:45 PM Mark Wendt did opine: On 12/14/2011 12:19 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:18:32 PM Mark Wendt did opine: On 12/14/2011 11:58 AM, gene heskett wrote: All depends on the kind of lead you're looking for. Your typical

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 02:28:02 PM cogoman did opine: Seems like a zillion years ago, when I was young and dumb, I bought a used Phillips PM3212 25MHz triggered sweep dual trace scope from a vendor at the Trenton Computer Fair. I wasn't dumb enough for them though. They sold it

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes On 14 December 2011 15:17, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: I know, I have a 7704 with a couple 7A26s and the delaying time base plus frequency counter ( 1PPM last

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 02:33:19 PM andy pugh did opine: On 14 December 2011 17:31, cogoman cogo...@optimum.net wrote: I don't know how accurate the waveform is, and 25 MHz doesn't sound like much, but it's fast enough to measure the speed of light

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Dave
On 12/14/2011 11:38 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: On 12/14/2011 11:29 AM, Dave wrote: Why, that's just a few years younger'n my dinosaur! ;-) Mark If you can afford the cash, the newer portable portable digital scopes are really nice. Fluke makes a nice one that I used to chase

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Dan Field
Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes On 14 December 2011 15:17, Peter C. Wallacep...@mesanet.com wrote: I know, I have a 7704

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Dan Field wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:15:43 -0800 From: Dan Field danfi...@roadrunner.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes On 14 December 2011 15:17, Peter C. Wallacep...@mesanet.com wrote: I know, I have a 7704 with a couple 7A26s and the delaying time base plus frequency counter

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread gene heskett
Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes Since it's gone crazy on Scopes around here. I have 3 units and no clue how to use them nor any accessories. I wanted one just learn some basics but so far I haven't done that. I bought them

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Gary P. Fiber
-0800 From: Dan Fielddanfi...@roadrunner.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes Since it's gone crazy on Scopes around here. I have 3 units

Re: [Emc-users] Scopes

2011-12-14 Thread Peter Blodow
Gene, when I was studying physics back in the 60ies and 70ies, the labs of the Technical University of Munich were full of Tek 525's, 545's etc. Earning some extra money during study time at Siemens labs, I found the same models there. Even at this time, they were considered models of