Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
did you test limit2 and limit3, or just limit3? I'm not sure whether second-derivative limiting (since command is speed, I guess that makes it a jerk limit) is useful for spindle speed, and it would be nice to hear real-world results. Just limit3. I used the basic motion equations s=vt and

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Jeff Epler
you're using feedback speed to decide when to turn off the spindle? why not use commanded speed instead? or maybe just a timeout based on the 3 second time you mentioned for acceleration (the component 'timedelay' can do this)? Jeff

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15 did you test limit2 and limit3, or just limit3? I'm not sure whether second-derivative limiting (since command is speed, I guess that makes it a jerk limit) is useful for spindle speed, and it would be nice to hear real-world results. Just limit3. I used the basic

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
Sorry, a typo. I was using commanded speed. But the timedelay option sounds more efficient. -Original Message- From: Jeff Epler [mailto:jep...@unpythonic.net] Sent: Friday, 8 May 2009 12:38 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
the place. I used lowpass, and got good enough results. Is there a component that will smooth out a curve? A moving average? Are you using HostMot2? HostMot2 has a much better velocity output than the old M5I20 driver/firmware. Yes, I'm using HostMot2. The velocity coming out

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Frank Tkalcevic wrote: Are you using HostMot2? HostMot2 has a much better velocity output than the old M5I20 driver/firmware. Yes, I'm using HostMot2. The velocity coming out of the encoder was fuzzy, and combining that with my poor PID tuning caused vibration at low speeds. Hm, the hm2

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Frank Tkalcevic wrote: Yes, I'm using HostMot2. The velocity coming out of the encoder was fuzzy, and combining that with my poor PID tuning caused vibration at low speeds. Which version of emc2 are you using? -- Sebastian Kuzminsky you press what you hope is the right switch, and you

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
Hm, the hm2 encoder velocity output is supposed to be really smooth. I'll double check it tonight. Any chance you can supply a halscope trace of it looking bad on your machine? I'm using 2.3. Here's a trace of the commanded velocity (after going through limit3), encoder velocity (*60) and

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Frank Tkalcevic wrote: Hm, the hm2 encoder velocity output is supposed to be really smooth. I'll double check it tonight. Any chance you can supply a halscope trace of it looking bad on your machine? I'm using 2.3. Here's a trace of the commanded velocity (after going through limit3),

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Frank Tkalcevic wrote: Hm, the hm2 encoder velocity output is supposed to be really smooth. I'll double check it tonight. Any chance you can supply a halscope trace of it looking bad on your machine? I'm using 2.3. Here's a trace of the commanded velocity

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-07 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
Here's a trace of the commanded velocity (after going through limit3), encoder velocity (*60) and the lowpass output. http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/img_bin/Velocity.png The encoder scale is 12000; 12000 pulses representing 1 revolution. The encoder velocity output is then

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2009-05-06 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 04:37:07PM +1000, Frank Tkalcevic wrote: I've just configured my first emc project, a 9x20 lathe conversion. I'm using a large servo for the spindle - I'm hoping to be able to use it as a 4th axis for some light engraving down the track. My problem - I've