Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-28 Thread Dave Cole
Atmel's Windows based IDE can also be used with avrdude as an interface with M$. With that you can load into the Arduino USB port as well. The software is really nice for being free. Dave On 2/27/2017 1:38 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 26.02.17 17:55, Martin Dobbins wrote: >> At some

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-28 Thread Dave Cole
Yes.. they have very good service apparently! :-) Dave On 2/28/2017 1:00 PM, Ken Strauss wrote: > As a followup: I ordered the ICE from Microchip > (http://www.microchip.com/developmenttools/productdetails.aspx?partno=atatmel-ice > on Sunday using the $50 discount code that expires today. The

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-28 Thread Ken Strauss
As a followup: I ordered the ICE from Microchip (http://www.microchip.com/developmenttools/productdetails.aspx?partno=atatmel-ice on Sunday using the $50 discount code that expires today. The ICE arrived at my Canadian door this afternoon (Tuesday) with no additional fees owing. >

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-27 Thread Dave Cole
The software is free but the hardware debugger ICE unit is not. But it works nicely on the AVR boards. Dave On 2/27/2017 4:34 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 26/02/17 17:01, Dave Cole wrote: >> I tried to buy it from the Atmel store as well and I was told the same >> thing and I am in the US. >>

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-27 Thread Ken Strauss
The software is free but the ICE hardware must be purchased. > -Original Message- > From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:34 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - A

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-27 Thread Lester Caine
On 26/02/17 17:01, Dave Cole wrote: > I tried to buy it from the Atmel store as well and I was told the same > thing and I am in the US. > So they aren't picking on Canadians yet. ;-) Am I missing something? Like the Microchip IDE, the Atmel one is available as a free download. You do not

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 26.02.17 17:55, Martin Dobbins wrote: > At some point in the future you might want to alter fuses; Atmel bare > chips ship using the onboard 8Mhz oscillator and divide the result by > 8. If you want a chip to perform as it does on an arduino board with > an external 16Mhz crystal you have to

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Gregg Eshelman
(EMC) <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? Well... you might want to read this. https://www.howtogeek.com/244678/you-dont-need-a-product-key-to-install-and-use-windows-10/ ht

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Dave Cole
On 2/26/2017 12:38 PM, Martin Dobbins wrote: > My only concern with limited experience with Windows 10 is that the software > seems to update itself whenever it pleases. It can, but you can limit when it updates. So on my one laptop I told it could only update between 3 and 4 am and since my

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Dave Cole
ows licence to run the software. >> >> >> I do have a legal copy of windows vista, but I don't think studio 7 will run >> on anything earlier than windows 7? >> >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> From: Dave Cole &

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Ken Strauss
February 26, 2017 12:01 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? > > I tried to buy it from the Atmel store as well and I was told the same thing and > I am in the US. > So they aren't picking on Cana

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Martin Dobbins
_ > From: Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:18 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? > > > >>Good luck and let us know ho

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Martin Dobbins
; > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:18 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? > > > >>Good luck and let us know how you get on. > > Just some feedback on this Atmel ICE and Atmel Studio 7. >

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Dave Cole
, February 26, 2017 9:27 AM >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? >> >> Thanks for the update Dave, it's a shame that I'd also have to factor in > the cost >> of buying a windows licence to

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Dave Cole
un > on anything earlier than windows 7? > > > Martin > > > > From: Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:18 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Ken Strauss
age- > From: Martin Dobbins [mailto:tu...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:27 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? > > Thanks for the update Dave, it's a shame that I'd also have

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-26 Thread Martin Dobbins
: Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:18 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? >>Good luck and let us know how you get on. Just some feedback on this Atmel ICE and Atmel Studio

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-25 Thread Dave Cole
our program might not be the only >> advantage according to this guy: >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=648Tx5N9Zoc >> >> >> Good luck and let us know how you get on. >> >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> _________

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-25 Thread Dave Cole
know how you get on. > > > Martin > > > > > From: Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:02 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-25 Thread R.L. Wurdack
4 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? > > > > I have several brands of MCU with Arduino being one. I am wondering if > anyone on the list has tried a Parallax Propeller for any cnc type app. It

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-25 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 02/25/2017 09:22 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > Once I've built familiarity with a chip family's peripherals, and a > debugged library of routines to use them, then it is just dufus to rock > up with "My cpu core is sexier than yours." They all execute code > reliably, so the core is quite

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-25 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 19:22:38 +1100 Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 24.02.17 15:18, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > > If you have to use on chip peripherals such as DMA, ADC, or PWM you very > > much have to "learn a chip" (some are part of the core, some are part of > > the

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 24.02.17 15:18, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > If you have to use on chip peripherals such as DMA, ADC, or PWM you very > much have to "learn a chip" (some are part of the core, some are part of > the silicon manufacturer implementation.) An Arduino OS will sield you > from much of that but if

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-24 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
If you have to use on chip peripherals such as DMA, ADC, or PWM you very much have to "learn a chip" (some are part of the core, some are part of the silicon manufacturer implementation.) An Arduino OS will sield you from much of that but if doing more bare metal implementation or even running a

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-24 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > > Indeed support is VERY useful. There are many more ARM forums (and > professional users) then Arduino. That is an odd thing to say because Arduino is moving to ARM. Tool chains used to be such a big deal.

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-24 Thread mcgyver
I have several brandsĀ  of MCU with Arduino being one. I am wondering if anyone on the list has tried a Parallax Propeller for any cnc type app. It ha 8 - 32 bit processors called cogs.Robert -- Check out

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-24 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > ARM has over 80 licensees for just the Cortex family. Atmel has... only > themselves. If you are going to invest the time & money to setup and > develop for a chip, not just for a current project but unknown future

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 24 February 2017 09:54:13 Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Erik Christiansen > wrote: > ... > > > Conversely, why is the ATtiny15 > > "best" for the job at hand? Answer: Because it has a few ADC > > channels, I have a few of them in my

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-24 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote: ... > Conversely, why is the ATtiny15 > "best" for the job at hand? Answer: Because it has a few ADC channels, I > have a few of them in my goodies box, AND I'm set up to develop with > them. That last one is

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-23 Thread Martin Dobbins
ursday, February 23, 2017 9:02 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? Wow, Thanks guys... lots of great info! I did end up buying the Atmel ICE. It turned out to be $80 plus shipping and tax after a $50 coupon which e

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-23 Thread Dave Cole
Wow, Thanks guys... lots of great info! I did end up buying the Atmel ICE. It turned out to be $80 plus shipping and tax after a $50 coupon which expires on 2/28. I will feel better having it available. This is the full Atmel ICE kit, not the basic kit.

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-23 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 23.02.17 17:51, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > Atmel ICE and Atmel Studio is useful but a micro controller with a > Cortex-M*- CPU is probably a lot better choice. Nicklas, we are all entitled to our personal preferences, but "Which is the god-ordained cpu to use" is in this case not the question

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-23 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> Search on ebay for STM32F103. These are 72MHz ARM Cortex M3 (if I recall). I use STM32 and they are indeed very good, the others are similar so if they are the best I do not know. -- Check out the vibrant tech

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-23 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Atmel ICE and Atmel Studio is useful but a micro controller with a Cortex-M*- CPU is probably a lot better choice. They are very good, cheap, very common and used by many manufacturers. Most of them if not all will be able to do PWM for DC or 3-phase motors and probably the same with a

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-23 Thread Gregg Eshelman
There's the STM Discovery boards like the STM32F3 and STM32F4. There's a ton of aftermarket stuff for the F4 board. Not so much for the F3 to start with, but a quick Google turns up some interesting addons for both. I also see there's a newer version of the F3 with some mention of mass storage

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-23 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 22.02.17 09:50, Dave Cole wrote: > Is anyone using the ATMEL ICE and Atmel Studio 7 IDE to do Arduino > programming and debug? > > http://blog.solutions-cubed.com/debugging-arduino-sketches-with-atmel-studio-7/ The Atmel ICE referenced there is fancier than the one I used more than a decade

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-22 Thread Chris Albertson
These and the like are all over eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-Arduino-DHUS-/321569700934?hash=item4adf0c3c46:g:Q7AAAOSw0kNXhGr~ The search term is "minimum system arm" There are two types both under $5 but I'm using the

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-22 Thread Groups
The Teensy3.1 is under $20 Cheers Peter Homann - (from my mobile) http://www.homanndesigns.com > On 23 Feb 2017, at 2:26 pm, Dave Cole wrote: > >> On 2/22/2017 12:36 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: >> Now that ARM based boards are available for under $5 I've completely >>

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-22 Thread Ralph Stirling
Search on ebay for STM32F103. These are 72MHz ARM Cortex M3 (if I recall). They are as easy to use as an Arduino Mini Pro, but a bit more trouble than an Arduino Nano, as you need to use a usb to ttl serial cable to download. These aren't in the same league as a Pi, but way better than an

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-22 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > On 2/22/2017 12:36 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: >> Now that ARM based boards are available for under $5 I've completely >> moved away from AVR. > > I'm missing something. > > Where can you buy ARM based boards for under

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-22 Thread Dave Cole
On 2/22/2017 12:36 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > Now that ARM based boards are available for under $5 I've completely > moved away from AVR. I'm missing something. Where can you buy ARM based boards for under $5.00? Or did you mean $50 ? The Arduino Zero is $54 -$40 and the Neutrino, the

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-22 Thread Chris Albertson
Now that ARM based boards are available for under $5 I've completely moved away from AVR. I can get 32-bits and faster performance for the same price and form factor.Once you move to ARM the available programming options explode.I can still use the Arduino IDE on ARM but there are many

[Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ?

2017-02-22 Thread Dave Cole
Guys, I figure if anyone would know.. it would be one of you since I know some of you have done a lot of Arduino development. Is anyone using the ATMEL ICE and Atmel Studio 7 IDE to do Arduino programming and debug?