Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Matt Tucci
I had inland motors on a Kearney and Trekker mill, Most problems I had with that machine was the encoders. The ones built in we're quite small and fit in the motor housing with a small set of gears driving them.I took one apart once the glass disk was damaged, damaged before I started taking it

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 11 May 2015, Rick Lair wrote: Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 10:53:40 -0400 From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Emc Users emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 May 2015 at 15:53, Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com wrote: Any thoughts/ pointers as to what may be causing this? It sounds like the PID tuning might be off. Is this LinuxCNC-controlled or is it a standalone PID? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
Its Linuxcnc controlled, and has been running fine for over a year, the operators started noticing a poor finish on the parts just as of recent. The material is hardened D2 Tool steel, and we are using ceramic and diamond inserts, so machine issues, even very small and non noticeable on a

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
On 5/11/2015 11:02 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: Non linear resolver output points to an overloaded input For a 7I49, I would check that the maximum resolver output voltage is less than 1V RMS (you need to rotate the shaft to find the peak on one or measure both sine and cosine and

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Peter C. Wallace
] Servo Motor Question On 5/11/2015 11:02 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: Non linear resolver output points to an overloaded input For a 7I49, I would check that the maximum resolver output voltage is less than 1V RMS (you need to rotate the shaft to find the peak on one or measure both sine

[Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
A little off topic, but I figured this would be the best place to ask, On one of our turning centers using Linuxcnc, the operator was complaining of a poor finish on the bores of the parts we were making. After a lengthy investigation, I saw that while the Z axis was in motion at low speeds (

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 May 2015 at 17:05, Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com wrote: I thought that the deadband value would only effect the positioning when the axis was idle, not while in motion? No, it is the position error required before there is any output from the PID. Out of interest, how big was the tiny

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 5/11/2015 9:51 AM, Karlsson Wang wrote: Mechanical problem? I'd start with the easiest, take the motor, resolver, encoder apart and clean everything then put it back together. That's also a good time to look for damaged mechanical parts. A fault that has been steadily getting worse or

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 May 2015 at 17:45, Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com wrote: I had 0.1 in the entry. That is indeed quite small. I think it turns out to be actual inches unless there is an unusual scaling somewhere. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
I had 0.1 in the entry. On 5/11/2015 12:43 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 11 May 2015 at 17:05, Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com wrote: I thought that the deadband value would only effect the positioning when the axis was idle, not while in motion? No, it is the position error required before

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
I messed with everything, I even started changing the individual cards on the servo drive, and didn't notice any favorable changes, some even brought out other gremlins, I had a very minute value in the DEADBAND entry in my INI, I zeroed that, and it went away, go figure. I thought that the

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Dave Cole
I have had to tweak the deadband value to get rid of loop instability due to worn ball screws. Noise and mechanical slop would cause the loop to hunt badly without some deadband. Sounds like you had a similar problem. Dave On 5/11/2015 12:45 PM, Rick Lair wrote: I had 0.1 in the entry.

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Karlsson Wang
Mechanical problem? On Mon, 11 May 2015 11:10:52 -0400 Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com wrote: Its Linuxcnc controlled, and has been running fine for over a year, the operators started noticing a poor finish on the parts just as of recent. The material is hardened D2 Tool steel, and we are