Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-06 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/9/6 Gregg Eshelman > On Thu, 9/5/13, Sven Wesley wrote: > > ... > gantry weight around 80-90 kg and is driven by small Nidec > servos rated at 80 V (really small). > > > That's not even 200 pounds. The table on this mill is 10x50" - 25.4x127 > centimeters, 4" - 10cm at its th

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Thu, 9/5/13, Sven Wesley wrote: I don't know what your machine looks like, but I think many people believe they need much larger servos than actually needed. My steel router has a gantry weight around 80-90 kg and is driven by small Nidec servos rated at 80 V (really small).

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread dave
On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 20:19 -0400, Kerry Lynn wrote: > On 9/5/13 7:07 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > On Thu, 9/5/13, andy pugh wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Kerry Lynn
On 9/5/13 7:07 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > On Thu, 9/5/13, andy pugh wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Date: Thursday, September 5, 2013, 3:19 AM > > On 5 September 2013 05:40

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Sven Wesley
> Anyway, you can compute the linear force a ballscrew can exert from > some given motor torque, and then compute how much acceleration in > G's that will give. That is a good exercise, rather than talking about > motor Watts. > > Jon > > ...which you can do with my calc sheet posted earlier. :)

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Jon Elson
Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > What I'm looking for is for each type of motor (AC and BLDC) is "You want at > least x watts and n amps to at least be in the same range as the old motor." > On cncdrives.com I noticed the torque values listed are different for AC and > DC motors of the same watts. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/9/5 Gregg Eshelman > On Thu, 9/5/13, andy pugh wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Date: Thursday, September 5, 2013, 3:19 AM > > On 5 September 2013 05:40, Gregg > Eshelman

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Thu, 9/5/13, andy pugh wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Thursday, September 5, 2013, 3:19 AM On 5 September 2013 05:40, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > The old motors were 5.8 amp cont, 30 amp peak. Stal

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 September 2013 05:40, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > The old motors were 5.8 amp cont, 30 amp peak. Stall torque 3NM cont. Max RPM > 2400. Max voltage 140 DC 140V * 30A = 4200W 140V * 5.8A = 800W 3Nm * 2400 rpm = 750W You probably want at least 750W motors, geared to suit any difference in nominal

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-04 Thread Dave Caroline
wrote: > On Wed, 9/4/13, Jack Coats wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Date: Wednesday, September 4, 2013, 8:18 PM > > >From what I have been told, the > Amps is the 'po

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Wed, 9/4/13, Jack Coats wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Wednesday, September 4, 2013, 8:18 PM >From what I have been told, the Amps is the 'power', but more volts is the 'speed&#

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-04 Thread Jack Coats
>From what I have been told, the Amps is the 'power', but more volts is the 'speed' and responsiveness component. Watts is Volts times Amps, and is defined as 'power'. The 'torque' would be more the 'amps' than power, but obviously they are related. Does that help? --

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-04 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 09/04/2013 06:25 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: ... snip > That's why I'm concerned about the peak torque. The mill has a 10x50" > table which is a large hunk of iron to push around and I don't want > to end up with a real slowpoke of a machine. Ideally I'd like to have > it performing quite a bit b

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Wed, 9/4/13, Sven Wesley wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Wednesday, September 4, 2013, 3:29 PM 2013/9/4 Gregg Eshelman > ... > This CNC parts business makes the worst of PC parts vendors I&

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Wed, 9/4/13, Sven Wesley wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Wednesday, September 4, 2013, 3:29 PM 2013/9/4 Gregg Eshelman > ... > This CNC parts business makes the worst of PC parts vendors I&

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 September 2013 20:36, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Since my "deal" on the Sanyo-Denki closed loop stepper motors and drivers is > a bust*, I'm still hunting motors and drivers at an affordable price. (Which > right now is as much under $1,000 as I can get.) This guy (in South Korea) is listing

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-04 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/9/4 Gregg Eshelman > ... > This CNC parts business makes the worst of PC parts vendors I've dealt > with in 30 years look like the pinnacle of responsiveness to customers. > > > Gregg, are you in EU? I have bought a bunch of stuff from cncdrive.com. Balazs is very friendly and service minded

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Wed, 9/4/13, andy pugh wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Wednesday, September 4, 2013, 1:57 PM On 4 September 2013 20:36, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Since my "deal" on the Sanyo-Denki clos

[Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Since my "deal" on the Sanyo-Denki closed loop stepper motors and drivers is a bust*, I'm still hunting motors and drivers at an affordable price. (Which right now is as much under $1,000 as I can get.) After spending hours looking, it appears that nothing under a NEMA34 size is going to do the