Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-02 Thread Andy Pugh
On 2 August 2010 05:49, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Well, if you made tiny jogs in each direction, small enough so that they didn't cause a following error, then the servo amp would go live and all would be fine. You _could_ do it explicitly in the HAL file, before the pins are

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-02 Thread Jon Elson
Andy Pugh wrote: On 2 August 2010 05:49, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Well, if you made tiny jogs in each direction, small enough so that they didn't cause a following error, then the servo amp would go live and all would be fine. You _could_ do it explicitly in the HAL

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Peter C. Wallace
: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 23:15 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: I know a number of people are using my PWM servo amps with Mesa controller boards. A feature of the dumb control logic on the servo amp is that it needs a short pulse

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: Is this the high side bootstrap that creates the high side FET gate control voltage? No, not really. That may be where John Kasunich got the name to call it the bootstrap parameter of the driver (I didn't supply that name to him). These servo amps do have such a bootstrap

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: By normal fab techniques, there is not a P type FET, they all need a + signal on the gate to turn them on. That said, a separate + and - 5 volt supply winding whose center tap rail is common to the FET's source rail is the much preferred method of deriving the high

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Alex Joni
I used these in the past along with some IRFZ44N http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irf4905.pdf Regards, Alex On 8/1/2010 8:27 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: Is this the high side bootstrap that creates the high side FET gate control voltage? No, not

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Jon Elson
Peter C. Wallace wrote: Yes, this is the high side gate supply voltage. Well, no, despite the name, it actually has nothing to do with the bootstrap supply. Our amps DO, indeed, have such a supply. But, this one pulse each way thing is needed to clear the shutdown latch in the IR FET driver

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Jon Elson
Alex Joni wrote: I used these in the past along with some IRFZ44N http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irf4905.pdf This is a 55 V transistor. At 200 V they are at least unobtainable at reasonable cost. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday, August 01, 2010 05:19:09 pm Jon Elson did opine: Gene Heskett wrote: By normal fab techniques, there is not a P type FET, they all need a + signal on the gate to turn them on. That said, a separate + and - 5 volt supply winding whose center tap rail is common to the FET's

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday, August 01, 2010 05:40:41 pm Alex Joni did opine: I used these in the past along with some IRFZ44N http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irf4905.pdf Wow Alex, I obviously need to update my library, that looks like a quite decent P channel device. [...] -- Cheers, Gene

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Andy Pugh
On 1 August 2010 18:44, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Our amps DO, indeed, have such a supply.  But, this one pulse each way thing is needed to clear the shutdown latch in the IR FET driver chip. Would setting the direction to be opposite to the home direction in the HAL suffice? ie,

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Alex Joni
On 8/2/2010 2:06 AM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 1 August 2010 18:44, Jon Elsonel...@pico-systems.com wrote: Our amps DO, indeed, have such a supply. But, this one pulse each way thing is needed to clear the shutdown latch in the IR FET driver chip. Would setting the direction to be

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Jon Elson
Andy Pugh wrote: On 1 August 2010 18:44, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Our amps DO, indeed, have such a supply. But, this one pulse each way thing is needed to clear the shutdown latch in the IR FET driver chip. Would setting the direction to be opposite to the home

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-08-01 Thread Jon Elson
Alex Joni wrote: That means you can't jog before homing... Well, if you made tiny jogs in each direction, small enough so that they didn't cause a following error, then the servo amp would go live and all would be fine. That's why I put this in the driver so it just got done immediately

[Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-07-31 Thread Jon Elson
I know a number of people are using my PWM servo amps with Mesa controller boards. A feature of the dumb control logic on the servo amp is that it needs a short pulse in each direction to clear the shutdown latches on the FET driver chips. I built a little state machine into the driver to

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-07-31 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 23:15 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: I know a number of people are using my PWM servo amps with Mesa controller boards. A feature of the dumb control logic on the servo amp is that it needs a short pulse in each direction to clear the shutdown latches on the FET driver chips.

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Pico Systems PWM servo amp with Mesa 5i20 controller

2010-07-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:56:35 am Kirk Wallace did opine: On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 23:15 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: I know a number of people are using my PWM servo amps with Mesa controller boards. A feature of the dumb control logic on the servo amp is that it needs a short pulse in