Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 21:47 -0400, Kenneth Lerman wrote: > Does anyone use a single chip solution consisting of a single 8 pin > microprocessor? > > An Atmel atTiny13 is $1.40 in an 8 pin dip package. These chips power up > nicely, require no external oscillator, and are easy to program. If you

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 21:08 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: ... snip > After I wrote my reply I looked closer at the schematic and saw the how > big your caps are. I also noticed that you are using an LS14. I used > much smaller caps, probably 0.1uF for the filter and 0.01uF or smaller > for the pump

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 21:07 -0400, Greg Michalski wrote: ... snip > improve it please feel free to post :) ) Are you running that directly off > a parallel port pin or is it buffered/opto-isolated? ...snip My charge pump is being feed by a parallel port buffer which is a 54HCT541. There isn't m

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-28 Thread Kenneth Lerman
a failure of the failsafe circuit be undetected. Ken - Original Message - From: "John Kasunich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs > Greg Michalski wrote: >

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-28 Thread John Kasunich
Greg Michalski wrote: > > So in order to get my CNC4PC charge pump board to work correctly (it relies > on a 12.5kHz constant signal) I am going to need to create it's own thread > in addition to the servo thread and the base thread? I am thinking this is > possible to do, are there any negat

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-28 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:54 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: > ... snip >> Using a schmidt trigger to clean up the output is good. However, there >> is one potential problem. The two stage charge pump can produce more >> than 5V, which the '14 might not like. Maybe a clamp diode

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-28 Thread Greg Michalski
> Here is what I breadboarded that seems to work. > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/watchdog-1b.png That looks nice and simple. If I have troubles with what I've got on hand (the CNC4PC charge pump board) I might try your circuit out. (So if you improve it please feel free t

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:54 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: ... snip > Using a schmidt trigger to clean up the output is good. However, there > is one potential problem. The two stage charge pump can produce more > than 5V, which the '14 might not like. Maybe a clamp diode to the > supply rail? Or

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-28 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: > Here is what I breadboarded that seems to work. > > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/watchdog-1b.png > > I used John's circuit and added the two inverters to the output because > the EMI from the mechanical relay engaging would cycle the solid-state > rel

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
Here is what I breadboarded that seems to work. http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/watchdog-1b.png I used John's circuit and added the two inverters to the output because the EMI from the mechanical relay engaging would cycle the solid-state relay which would cycle the mechanica

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 23:17 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: > Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip > > If the input is constantly high, the signal to the FET will be the division > > of > > R2 and R5? Dooh. It's as plain as day that R2 is grounded. Somehow I visualized current going through R2, the diodes, R

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-25 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: > > I guess I need a little more help than I thought. Here is my first pass > at your board schematic: > > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/watchdog-1a.png That looks correct. > I guessed at the FET array pins and some bits are missing but I think I > got

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 17:02 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: ... snip > exactly right. I do know it is over 5V, enough to nicely saturate a > logic level FET, and would probably do OK with a normal FET. > > If you need more details don't hesitate to ask. > > Regards, > > John Kasunich I guess I ne

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-25 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 11:47 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: > ... snip >> That HAL component makes the charge pump signal. I think Kirk is >> looking for the real circuit that uses the charge pump signal to turn on >> a relay. > > Thats correct. > >> I built one for my Shopta

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 11:47 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: ... snip > That HAL component makes the charge pump signal. I think Kirk is > looking for the real circuit that uses the charge pump signal to turn on > a relay. Thats correct. > I built one for my Shoptask, unfortunately I think I just d

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-25 Thread John Kasunich
Chris Radek wrote: > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 07:47:32AM -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> I have every thing controlled by parport pins on my Shizuoka which makes >> for an inexpensive conversion, but one of the problems is that if I have >> my main breaker on while booting the EMC2 PC the mill will co

Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-25 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 07:47:32AM -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: > I have every thing controlled by parport pins on my Shizuoka which makes > for an inexpensive conversion, but one of the problems is that if I have > my main breaker on while booting the EMC2 PC the mill will come up in an > unsafe sta

[Emc-users] Watchdogs

2008-04-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
I have every thing controlled by parport pins on my Shizuoka which makes for an inexpensive conversion, but one of the problems is that if I have my main breaker on while booting the EMC2 PC the mill will come up in an unsafe state. One of the solutions I was thinking about is, I seem to recall a w