Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-29 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:40:29 +, you wrote: Haven't seen the belated 2.5 yet... It has, indeed, been imminent for a long time. I suspect that a lot of the delay has been due to the EMC lawyers. Last time I asked here the reason given for the delay was bugs - not so long ago either. I have

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-28 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:06:40 +, you wrote: On 27 January 2012 08:32, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: I'm not asking that the existing G33 be abandoned, just an addition, correct version added, preferably using G32. As I said earlier, that's fairly easy to do with the G-code

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-28 Thread andy pugh
Haven't seen the belated 2.5 yet... It has, indeed, been imminent for a long time. I suspect that a lot of the delay has been due to the EMC lawyers. I have a suspicion that 2.6 will follow fairly shortly after 2.5. It is available as pre-compiled packages, and as far as I know has few bugs. --

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-27 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:06:30 +, you wrote: On 26 January 2012 21:55, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: http://pdf.directindustry.com/pdf/delectron/g-code-programming-manual/14577-33189-_23.html Andy - that is for Milling Machines. Typical function for lathes, can also be used in

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 January 2012 08:32, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: I'm not asking that the existing G33 be abandoned, just an addition, correct version added, preferably using G32. As I said earlier, that's fairly easy to do with the G-code remapping functions in version 2.6. -- atp The

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-26 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:20:22 +, you wrote: On 25 January 2012 08:27, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: Be MUCH better if along the hypotenuse was G33.1 and along the axis was G33 (or even better G32). At least then threading would be industry standard. It isn't even that

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-26 Thread andy pugh
On 26 January 2012 21:55, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: http://pdf.directindustry.com/pdf/delectron/g-code-programming-manual/14577-33189-_23.html Andy - that is for Milling Machines. Typical function for lathes, can also be used in milling machines is what it says. -- atp The

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-25 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:47:26 -0500, you wrote: And that is the reason EMC measures pitch along the hypotenuse. A fairly famous quote from Allan Kay goes: Simple things should be simple, complex things should be possible. Butt you've made a simple thing complex. Be MUCH better if along the

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 January 2012 08:27, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: Be MUCH better if along the hypotenuse was G33.1 and along the axis was G33 (or even better G32). At least then threading would be industry standard. It isn't even that clear-cut:

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-25 Thread John Thornton
IIRC Jeff Eppler cut a fusee for a mousetrap powered car... John On 1/24/2012 3:52 PM, John Prentice wrote: - Original Message - From: Kent A. Reedknbr...@erols.com Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-25 Thread sam sokolik
You can see it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACvRilmIKDQ (that was JohnK) I really like the flexibility over a standard. (I didn't know there was a 'standard' from research I have done) And with a little math - it will make a perfect tapered thread. With re-mapping now there are

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-25 Thread John Thornton
well they both have a first name that starts with J LOL so I got one letter right. John On 1/25/2012 6:04 AM, sam sokolik wrote: You can see it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACvRilmIKDQ (that was JohnK) I really like the flexibility over a standard. (I didn't know there was a

[Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner workings of LinuxCNC well enough to contribute to discussion of the first item, No jog on feedhold. However, the second item Taper thread pitches are measured along

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 16:09 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: ... snip how else they cut tapered threads on a lathe in the old days, My guess is by using a taper attachment: http://its.fvtc.edu/machshop2/operations/taperw_attach.htm http://www.lathes.co.uk/hardinge/img19.gif

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 21:09, Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com wrote: At best I'm a dilettante with machine tools and certainly I'm no expert with a lathe. That not withstanding, long, long ago, I was taught to cut a tapered thread on a manual lathe by shifting the tailstock over. It seems to me

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread John Prentice
- Original Message - From: Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner workings of LinuxCNC well enough to contribute to discussion of the first item, No jog on feedhold. However,

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 21:52, John Prentice j...@castlewd.freeserve.co.uk wrote: (b) For most practical tapered pipe threads no one will notice the pitch error. On one hand I think it is unusual CNC behaviour in threading (so possible difficulties for CAM users without a special postprocessor).

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 1/24/2012 4:52 PM, John Prentice wrote: - Original Message - From: Kent A. Reedknbr...@erols.com Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner workings of LinuxCNC well enough to contribute to discussion of the

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:09:34 -0500, you wrote: Not being able to imagine (I said limited brain, remember) how else they cut tapered threads on a lathe in the old days, I expect the standard specifications (ASME B1.20.1, fer instance) of the times would reflect this. Hi Kent Commercially

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 22:54, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: My CAM programs know this, and cut the threads accordingly - unfortunately they turn out wrong. With the ability to remap G-codes which is in Master it will be possible to re-map G33 to calculate the trigonometric correction

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread dave
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:33:04 + andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 January 2012 22:52, Kenneth Lerman kenneth.ler...@se-ltd.com wrote: 4 -- Hire someone to do #2. (Don't even ask -- I have two prices for my work on LinuxCNC, the first is free and you probably can't afford the

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
Thanks, Andy, Kirk, John, and Steve, for the input on lathe taper attachments. It took me a minute to realize what I was looking at but then the light bulb turned on. Obviously, I never made it past the row of entry-level South Bend lathes in my own work, although I was acutely aware of the

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote: At best I'm a dilettante with machine tools and certainly I'm no expert with a lathe. That not withstanding, long, long ago, I was taught to cut a tapered thread on a manual lathe by shifting the tailstock over. It seems to me this would necessarily mean the thread pitch

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 10:02 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 24 January 2012 21:52, John Prentice j...@castlewd.freeserve.co.uk wrote: (b) For most practical tapered pipe threads no one will notice the pitch error. On one hand I think it is unusual CNC behaviour in threading (so possible

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/24/2012 11:34 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Kent A. Reed wrote: At best I'm a dilettante with machine tools and certainly I'm no expert with a lathe. That not withstanding, long, long ago, I was taught to cut a tapered thread on a manual lathe by shifting the tailstock over. It seems to me this

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
On 1/25/2012 1:11 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: It may be annoying to know LinuxCNC works best with G-code programs tailored to it, but isn't this true also for other controllers? Yes. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current