Re: [Emc-users] AC Servo Motor

2012-05-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 May 2012 15:33, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: However, for a bare motor, $115 shipping is a decent price.  I could eventually be interested in using one to replace the 300 watter on my mini- lathes spindle, but one project at a time. I am not sure that that motor is brushless,

Re: [Emc-users] AC Servo Motor

2012-05-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 May 2012 16:19, Mark Cason farmerboy1...@yahoo.com wrote:   The place I got this one just sent ~50 of them to the scrap yard last week... Did they say which scrap yard? -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong.

Re: [Emc-users] PID controller Q's

2012-05-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 May 2012 15:52, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: G76 doesn't use the velocity, it just looks at position. There is no way that that can be varying enough to cause your issue. Have you linked encoder.position or encoder.position-interpolated? I used velocity. Where? If you have

Re: [Emc-users] AC Servo Motor

2012-05-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 May 2012 16:16, Mark Cason farmerboy1...@yahoo.com wrote:   I've been messing around with steppers for a few years now, so I know next to nothing about servos.  What all is needed to run one? If it is brushless, then you need some way to tell the drive where the rotor is, so that it can

Re: [Emc-users] PID controller Q's

2012-05-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 May 2012 17:51, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: I've seen P values as low as 15 and as high as 600 FF1 values from 18 (ugh) down to -0.01. The parameters are not unitless, so will vary even on identical hardware between mm and inch machines, and depending on whether the pwmgen is

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 May 2012 17:38, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: That's the job of the infeed module to take the 3 phase 380vac and create 600vdc. Are you saying ditch all that and roll my own DC power supply and connect it to the DC buss for the drives? That's an interesting idea. I guess the first

Re: [Emc-users] PID controller Q's

2012-05-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 May 2012 18:21, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: Torque mode needs little FF1 and lots of D as effectively it must create the velocity part of the loop from D Or you can stack two PID loops in HAL. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply,

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 May 2012 18:35, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Mains Phase Converter [ Step Up Transformer Reactor Infeed Module (Power supply) drives via DC buss Servos] I think that the reactor is to keep your mains clean, which is probably a job adequately handled by the rotary converter.

Re: [Emc-users] Setting EPP Mode

2012-05-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 May 2012 22:58, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: Aha! There is no port number specified. I added the port and it loads fine now, thank you! I wonder if the original card also works fine with the port address put in? -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth

Re: [Emc-users] Why LinuxCNC website is compromised by Google ?

2012-05-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 May 2012 09:44, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Perhaps I've been lucky, but I've never seen the download page 'compromised' That is because the site was compromised in such a way that it served different content to Googlebot than to consumer web browsers. What completely baffles

Re: [Emc-users] AC Servo Motor

2012-05-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 May 2012 05:37, Mark Cason farmerboy1...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46689581@N03/7168795700/in/set-72157629660267772/ Doesn't look like a Hall sensor, quite possibly a magnetic quadrature sensor, but maybe just a tachometer.

Re: [Emc-users] First cut

2012-05-10 Thread andy pugh
Looking at the bed construction, is the idea to use it with a vacuum hold-down system? -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Live Security Virtual Conference

Re: [Emc-users] Why LinuxCNC website is compromised by Google ?

2012-05-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 May 2012 15:10, Steve Stallings steve...@newsguy.com wrote: These links then present the desired junk pages when clicked on in the search results No, the links always go to the correct LinuxCNC page. I have _tried_ to find the spam sites. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 May 2012 21:49, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 1) is there a way to do manual tool touch-off during manual toolchange in a middle of g-code file? Not yet. I think there is enough momentum now that there will be in the next major release. 2) can somebody suggest me a

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 12 May 2012 01:18, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: It sounds like the reactor is interacting with the capacitors on your phase converter (resonating). Now that's an interesting idea. Not having the reactor in the system may cause a lot of extra current through the capacitors on your phase

Re: [Emc-users] OT-Retrofitting machines

2012-05-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 May 2012 15:15, k...@gmail.com kliegelmach...@gmail.com wrote: There is a bit of talk on some machine shop forums, arguments perhaps, that retrofitting a machine is a waste of time. I think it depends on what you mean by retrofitting. Converting a manual machine probably does't make much

Re: [Emc-users] OT-Retrofitting machines

2012-05-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 May 2012 23:03, Tux Lab project.tux...@gmail.com wrote: Used cnc machines are so common and fairly inexpensive, retrofitting with EMC doesn't make that much sense once you factor in the amount of time it take to do a retofit. Are you talking about retrofitting LinuxCNC to a used CNC

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 May 2012 12:04, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: wire electric discharge cutting? I was thinking that might be the easiest approach for low volume. How many of these do you need to make? And what is the budget? As far as I know the only way to make internal gears is by shaving

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 May 2012 13:38, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: primitive clock gears were cut from wood by hand, One of Harrison's wooden clocks is still running, just short of 300 years later. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/content/articles/2009/04/06/nostell_john_harrison_feature.shtml -- atp

Re: [Emc-users] OT-Retrofitting machines

2012-05-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 May 2012 20:34, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: which means that nobody owns it and thus there is nobody to hold responsible for something. That is the only drawback of opensource I have seen so far. You can sell this as a feature, in some ways. If there is a problem then

Re: [Emc-users] OT-Retrofitting machines

2012-05-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 May 2012 21:12, Roger Holmquist ro...@abcnc.se wrote: 1) differential analogue ports: in 4, out 4 ,resolution 12 bits, sample rate 10 Ms / s That might be tricky, what's the application? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 May 2012 22:43, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: has anyone ever heard of a ball worm? I have seen one developed by a college urology department, which is slightly scary. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 73, Issue 61

2012-05-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 May 2012 22:48, Roger Holmquist ro...@abcnc.se wrote: 1) differential analogue ports: in 4, out 4 ,resolution 12 bits, sample rate 10 Ms / s That might be tricky, what's the application? Well, I know there is at least one analogue control signal in one of the lathes for the spindle

Re: [Emc-users] psu for atom boards

2012-05-13 Thread andy pugh
On 14 May 2012 00:51, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: http://www.logicsupply.com/categories/power_supplies/dc_converters?gclid=COeJt5m4_q8CFSIHRQodoQGGHA I've been looking at the power supplies in the above link. Does anyone have experience, recommendations, etc. Further what are people

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 May 2012 06:00, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: i wonder, in the ball worm mechanism, why not make the worm engagement happen over more like a quarter of the diameter of the gear. This can be done, to an extent, with conventional worms, but it gets a bit difficult as eventually

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 May 2012 13:41, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: There were/are some manufacturers of hydraulic cylinder driven milling machines. I used to drive a servo-hydraulic tensile-testing machine. The actuator was extremely stiff and extremely fast. And _extremely_ expensive. That particular one used

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 May 2012 20:51, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: I had two MHP machines. MHP = M(oog) H(ydra) P(oint) Interesting: http://www.lathes.co.uk/bridgeport/page18.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2012 07:29, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: If I cannot get the flexible bearings, then there is option of eccentric discs as a wave generator. You could probably dismantle a normal bearing, machine down the races to make them much thinnner, and then press them onto an

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2012 10:42, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: the discreet spline teeth are also an approximation.  in fact, anything made out of atoms is flexible and grainy.  why not construct mechanisms from massless rigid rods and such? I think Viesturs has a point about the sides being

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 12 May 2012 00:11, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that they do not have the tools for 0,5 module, smallest they have is 0,7. But with ~124 mm pitch diameter the tooth count changes from 247 to 177, which significantly reduces the reduction ratio - from

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2012 11:04, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: i dont see why to care what any part aside from the engagement area is doing Now I think about it some more, I think you might be right. The cup is probably a little stiffer with the edge fully restrained, but I don't think the

Re: [Emc-users] Some advice needed

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2012 13:28, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: No, those flexible bearings actually are _required_ to be flexed for normal operation . They even specify a range of min and max ovality - (D-d)/2 = 1,2...1.6mm (D and d - large and small diameters of elipse) for flexible

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2012 17:02, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: insmod: error inserting Invalid module format into your favorite search engine. Both Google and Bing point me to pages that discuss this message and its cause (mismatch of kernel and module). Which asks the question, Was the

Re: [Emc-users] Not so custom

2012-05-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 May 2012 08:54, Mike Bennett mjb1...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also edited the machine INI file which I knew would be overwritten, so I'll create a new file next time and load this in the INI file, so I only have one file to maintain. I am of the opinion (whilst accepting the validity of

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 May 2012 01:25, Tux Lab project.tux...@gmail.com wrote: but has SMI spiking issue.   I am hoping the latency spiking issue can solved You have seen: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FixingSMIIssues ? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Intel Board issues

2012-05-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 May 2012 02:40, Terry Christophersen tcninj...@yahoo.com wrote: I forgot that it says  [xx.xxx] pnpbios: dev_node_info function not supported     [xx.xxx] pnpbios: unable to get node info Is this you:

Re: [Emc-users] Intel Board issues

2012-05-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 May 2012 20:28, Terry Christophersen tcninj...@yahoo.com wrote: I will try the linux only method Can you boot from the LiveCD, or do both boot and install fail? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Not so custom

2012-05-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 May 2012 02:26, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: Andy you should qualify that with the point that you wouldn't use stepconf right from the beginning ! :) Starting from scratch with a stepper machine I probably would, actually. But I doubt I will ever be doing that again.

Re: [Emc-users] I'm sure I'm being stupid ....

2012-05-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 May 2012 08:02, Speaker To-Dirt speaker_2_d...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm running EMC2 v2.3.5 on Ubuntu 8.04. Yes it's obsolete but the atom board on my mill won't run under Lucid (10.04). You can run 2.5 (and master) on 8.04. LinuxCNC versions are not linked to Ubuntu versions. M6 T1 G00

Re: [Emc-users] CNC Tube Bender

2012-05-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 May 2012 11:43, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty impressive for DIY, too bad they don't know anything about straightening wire... those lead in rollers are totally wrong if their intention was to straighten the wire on that plane. Which lead-in rollers? I have watched the

Re: [Emc-users] motherboard

2012-05-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 May 2012 15:29, Dave Engvall dengv...@charter.net wrote: About a year ago I acquired a D510M0. ... After trying many times (insanity) to get the 510 to install 10.04/2.5 (live) I have a D510MO running 10.04 and 2.5 (and 2.4, and 2.6). I installed from USB stick. I don't know if that

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 May 2012 19:38, Eric H. Johnson ejohn...@camalytics.com wrote: I am using the coordinate systems as a means of getting multiple tools offset in X and Y from each other so they can land on top of each other. You _could_ do that with tool offsets in the tool table. (I think). All tools

Re: [Emc-users] Debian with LinuxCNC

2012-05-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 May 2012 19:41, Tux Lab project.tux...@gmail.com wrote: I insmod the rtai_smi.ko module but I am still getting that ~64sec latency spiking.    lax max is usually less than 10K but spikes to 160k. Latency spike every 64 seconds? Sounds exactly like SMI to me.

Re: [Emc-users] Setting coordinate systems

2012-05-18 Thread andy pugh
On 19 May 2012 02:40, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Anyway, the G10 L2 Px adds an offset from the CURRENT machine position, Are you sure about that? That isn't what the docs say. G10 L2 shouldn't consider the current position at all, it should simply define the offset between machine

Re: [Emc-users] A rose by any name? [Was: Not so custom]

2012-05-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 May 2012 17:07, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: LCNC is statistically bound to be an infringement.  licenced chiropractic nurses cooperative You can always rely on chiropractors to abuse the legal system and sue.

Re: [Emc-users] Power and data cables for CNC

2012-05-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 May 2012 17:40, Rafael Skodlar ra...@linwin.com wrote: I wonder what kind of power and data cables would you recommend for use in X-Y-Z CNC about 1.2mx1m size? The size of the machine is not the most relevant thing, though a bigger machine will might need bigger power cables to keep the

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 May 2012 09:26, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: Can you tell me what exactly is the goal? Do I want the P as high was possible while keeping it stable? The goal is the best achievable stable servo response. The PID terms need to be whatever achieves this, but the target is very

Re: [Emc-users] OT : large cnc

2012-05-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 May 2012 22:28, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: And how do they call those sub-tool-holders? Possibly Live tooling -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto --

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Offsets

2012-05-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 May 2012 20:51, Eric H. Johnson ejohn...@camalytics.com wrote: T3 M6 G43 H3 I never use the H-number, it is only useful for applying the offset of a non-loaded tool to the loaded tool. Though I doubt that is your problem. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Offsets

2012-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2012 02:04, Terry Christophersen tcninj...@yahoo.com wrote: I never use the H-number, it is only useful for applying the offset of It may be not useful in LinuxCNC but I guarentee you 90% + of the mill programs in the world use it Well, yes, but we are using LinuxCNC. -- atp If you

Re: [Emc-users] Power and data cables for CNC

2012-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2012 07:53, Rafael Skodlar ra...@linwin.com wrote: Using Cat-5 was a surprise to me as it's a bit stiff unless each wire is made of even smaller wires, not common in general use. There is solid stranded for fixed installation and stranded for patch cables.

Re: [Emc-users] OT : large cnc

2012-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2012 11:30, Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: I'd give my left you-know-what for a shop that size. It would be difficult to keep warm enough to work in. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Offsets

2012-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 21 May 2012 20:51, Eric H. Johnson ejohn...@camalytics.com wrote: Per the Setting Coordinate Systems thread, I converted from using coordinate systems (G54-G59.3) and setting the offsets with G10 L2, to using the offsets specified in the tool table. Mostly it worked without a problem. The

Re: [Emc-users] Servo system and glass encoder scales for position feedback

2012-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2012 15:01, Claude Froidevaux men...@bluewin.ch wrote: Basically, the concept is to use the motor encoder for high frequency information (Derivative term of the PID), and the glass scale for the Integrator term. Things start to get complex for the P term.. it may be a mix of both,

Re: [Emc-users] Servo system and glass encoder scales for position feedback

2012-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2012 19:28, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: It has just occurred to me that it might be possible to combine tacho and command voltages completely in the analogue domain for these machines? Isn't this exactly what velocity mode servo amps do? Almost certainly. But I just

Re: [Emc-users] OT : large cnc

2012-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2012 21:33, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:07 AM, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: a whole robot to swap tools:  the prelude to an opera of the waking maintenace nightmare. In the video it gets perilously close to smacking an expensive bit of live

Re: [Emc-users] Intel DN2800MT - possible new LinuxCNC star?

2012-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2012 22:17, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: While Ubuntu Linux 10.04 can be installed, functionality is limited and hardware graphics acceleration does not work. Because there are no drivers for the PowerVR graphics chip, the OS uses the generic VESA driver for X.org,

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder Redundancy?

2012-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2012 07:08, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: I am guessing there is not an easy way to detect this condition, It should be possible to check if your PID is saturated for more than a second or so. loadrt debounce cfg=3 addf debounce.0 servo-thread setp debounce.0.delay 1000 #1

Re: [Emc-users] G04 dwell in seconds not milliseconds?

2012-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2012 06:35, Claude Zervas cla...@utlco.com wrote: Just wondering if someone might know why LinuxCNC interprets the G04 dwell command parameter as seconds instead of milliseconds? The glib answer is because that is how the programmer coded it. I suspect that the G04 code has been

Re: [Emc-users] G04 dwell in seconds not milliseconds?

2012-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2012 12:25, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: U and X can't be used as these are axis position commands. isn't T one of the modern coordinate axes as well? No, the axes are ABC UVW XYZ. T is tool number. (and acts as a standalone command, changing the value of tool-prepare

[Emc-users] Tablet

2012-05-23 Thread andy pugh
I wonder if there is any use for a touchscreen tablet as a remote/pendant? A friend of mine is trying to push these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fineslate-Capacitive-Ice-cream-Sandwich-Facebook/dp/B007L9YZP4/ref=sr_1_1?s=computersie=UTF8qid=1337766725sr=1-1 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own

Re: [Emc-users] TOT Bamboo Fly Rods

2012-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2012 15:12, Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Ebay.  Look for Montagues, lower end Heddons, Horrocks-Ibotson (sp?) and Looks to be two bs in Ibbotson. http://www.ebay.com/itm/350560285513 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder Redundancy?

2012-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2012 15:19, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: Les Watts had some interesting shock absorbers on his router. Half-inch threads on the cylinder with about .75 travel on the plunger. They are reasonably standard components. http://www.slamproof.co.uk/Industrial-Shock-Absorbers Though not

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Offsets

2012-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2012 16:52, Eric H. Johnson ejohn...@camalytics.com wrote: Andy, I am not sure I am the one to best answer this. My question is, do named external subroutine files need to end with '%'. If I include a '%' at the end of the file, on rerunning I get an error: Bad character '%' used.

Re: [Emc-users] Tablet

2012-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2012 15:06, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: I got as far as bringing up my own custom build of Linux with a cut-down X, but then it got taken up as a display for my grandkids This looks vaguely interesting in this context:

Re: [Emc-users] Intel DN2800MT - possible new LinuxCNC star? (BeagleBone q.)

2012-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 24 May 2012 00:23, Yishin Li y...@araisrobo.com wrote: Releasing HDL of the FPGA design is another issue. IMHO, it doesn't help too much for the development by releasing the HDL source code. AFAIK, the hostmot2 logic is only maintained by mesa; there is no community for developing it yet.

Re: [Emc-users] G04 dwell in seconds not milliseconds?

2012-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 24 May 2012 00:37, Claude Zervas cla...@utlco.com wrote: According to The NIST RS274NGC Interpreter, version 3, NISTIR 6556 (2000), section 3.5.4, the G04 parameter 'P' is in seconds... there you have it. Yes and no. Because NIST wrote EMC… -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Flash hole drill sizes for BP with 209 ignition?

2012-05-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 May 2012 02:42, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Does anyone have any links in their bookmarks that might give me a 'rule of thumb' at least for BP nipples using #209 primers?  I have the 2nd one at the all the cylindrical work done stage, and so far a single #74 drill (0.0235) in

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Offsets

2012-05-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 May 2012 07:50, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: LinuxCNC - not using the H value loads the offset for the current tool. Mach3 - not using the H value sets the tool offset to zero ! Eeek! Well, there is something lurking to catch me out in a big way if ever I try using Mach.

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 May 2012 17:53, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: an Aurdino like processor could measure the voltage and current on each phase and switch capacitors in or out as needed. With 8 capacitors in a binary sequence you could have 256 different levels of capacitance (on top of a

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 May 2012 21:26, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder why they don't publish their prices or show you the open cabinet? You think there is a man hidden behind the curtain winding the handle on a rotary converter? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2012 11:42, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the price sheet. That is over double what I can get a diesel generator for around here. It might be a better / cleaner solution, though. And it might release some capital if you can sell your existing rotary convertors? How

[Emc-users] Custom Encoders

2012-05-25 Thread andy pugh
I have built a motor. Internal space is quite tight, so I am using the Avago AEDR8340K encoder detector http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotary-encoders/7160604P/ (Also available from Mouser etc). This is a 3mm x 5mm two-channel quadrature detector. TTL output wires direct to Mesa / Parport / Pico. I

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2012 15:13, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: = For this it gets sticky, because you have 2 choices of how to attach the scope probes, BOTH of which leave the case of the scope lethally hot, We had the right tool for the job on a piece of equipment I designed once (an electric

Re: [Emc-users] Custom Encoders

2012-05-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2012 15:37, Jan de Kruyf jan.de.kr...@gmail.com wrote:  I have made one before with just a piece of photo negative film. Unfortunately these sensors need a shiny/non-shiny contrast. I was anticipating using laserprint, but both white and black paper are equally invisible to the

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread andy pugh
On 24 May 2012 21:54, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: I just asked them for pricing...and they sent me a price sheet. Same pricing on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/370557969294 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2012 18:00, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: For only generating 1 phase (the missing leg) they are charging some serious money for those inverters. They are doing rather more than a typical inverter drive does. They create a smooth 3-phase waveform regardless of load. -- atp If you

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2012 18:39, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: Ahh its a standard kind of thing: www.mtecorp.com/SineWave_Filter_4pg_Form1214A-2.pdf The Mesa cards can output a 3-phase PWM. Presumably a lot of the cost of the PhasePerfect is the control software... (I also suspect that they

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2012 18:57, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: The Mesa cards can output a 3-phase PWM. With a inverter of any type, a post filter is likely needed so the mill infeed sees nice 3 phase sine waves rather than Indeed. And you would need to work voltage-mode too, I assume. So,

Re: [Emc-users] Custom Encoders

2012-05-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2012 13:09, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: I will get pictures later. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/izs9EehSiBmY_omIxaSJBtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink Central diameter is 46mm, there are 512 window/bar combinations, so 2048 counts per rev. -- atp If you can't

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2012 20:17, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: The infeed unit is a 6SN1145-1BA00-0BA0 This looks like the manual. http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/llisapi.dll/csfetch/59401543/PJU_0212_en.pdf?func=cslib.csFetchnodeid=60683460forcedownload=true There is an interesting

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder Interference

2012-05-26 Thread andy pugh
On 26 May 2012 09:26, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: I wish I had a magnet implant like this guy that can feel magnetic fields: Get careless enough with the swarf on your machine and it is likely to happen. (I have had painful shocks from 5V which has led me to locate bits of embedded

Re: [Emc-users] spindle tachometer strangeness

2012-05-26 Thread andy pugh
On 26 May 2012 16:21, lloyd wilson llwilso...@rochester.rr.com wrote: The velocity output always reports as a negative number I don't know why it does that, but setting the encoder scale to a negative number will fix it. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder Interference

2012-05-26 Thread andy pugh
On 26 May 2012 21:10, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: http://3DTOPO.com/CNC-enclosure.png Don't judge me too harshly, I was making sure everything works before I finish tiding things up! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! You could try routing the power and encoder in

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder Interference

2012-05-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 May 2012 05:16, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: The drive is dithering at 0.0003 - 0.0006 with the worst spike now at 0.0012. ... One encoder pulse is 0.0003 on this axis. Would tuning the PID help with the spikes You could consider setting the PID deadband to 1 or 2 encoder

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 May 2012 17:59, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: I did manage to get two traces last night with a kick start from your instructions and lots of help from the IRC One thing that occurred to me is that phase balance on the drive-side of the reactor is possibly more important than

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder Interference

2012-05-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 May 2012 18:48, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/NivmHU8OuXIcP2EQHUPruNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink Your cabinet looks a lot better than mine, but... I have a thing about Zip-ties. Zip ties! How very dare you! That's

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2012 09:39, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: True, they just wind 3 sets of coils on a 3 legged core.  My suggested use was to convert the delta connected source with its 'wild leg' into a wye connected source that doesn't have the wild leg because the center of the wye is now

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle suggestions

2012-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2012 17:53, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: Really what I'd like is something with quick change tools, but not sure where to look.  I'd like to keep it under $500, but probably wouldn't happen with quick change. I am sure I have seen references to cheap ATC spindle motors from

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2012 13:26, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: I've been searching for isolation transformer but they all seem to be 480 to 240 or similar. Not had any luck so far on finding a 240-240 transformer. I think this is close, but isn't exactly 1:1

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2012 17:19, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: This one is definitely 1:1, but I am not at all clear what terminals it has.. http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/auto-transformers/4368861/ And both are auto transformers Andy, and will not fix this problem. Can you have a 1:1

Re: [Emc-users] Question with gantry setup

2012-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2012 20:34, Bryce Johnson sie...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like I lose some flexibility when using gantrykins vs just slaving the drives together (although I would like to be able to home both X1 and X2 independently).  Is there a way to home the drives and then run it as if they

Re: [Emc-users] Question with gantry setup

2012-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2012 22:08, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: Probably a C10 config is no big deal I would just need to know when inputs and outputs are, and if there is a chargepump, preferred step/dir pins etc It looks to be an uncommitted breakout, so the physical wires could be arranged

Re: [Emc-users] Working on my lathe again

2012-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2012 23:33, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: front v-way rising a thou or so to allow this twist before the flat slide at the rear of the carriage starts moving when the direction is reversed.  My thoughts are to add a couple small ball bearings, spring loaded against the

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 May 2012 06:00, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: Is it possible to make those changes to LinuxCNC? In other words, can LinuxCNC currently command a serial port using those additional M words? M100-M199 can easily call a shell script, and a shell script can write to a serial port.

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 May 2012 08:48, Joachim Franek joachim.fra...@pibf.de wrote: I am looking for a solution for the analog a/d part with a resolution of 12 bit with interface to LCNC (temperatur control of head and bed). An Arduino is one solution. http://axis.unpy.net/01198594294 Another idea is to use

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 May 2012 13:16, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Well I'll be a monkeys uncle, the step up transformer does have a N lug but nothing is connected to it. Do you know if that is on the input or output side? (it should be possible to test with a multimeter) I seem to recall that some

Re: [Emc-users] cutter radius compensation versus tool table data

2012-05-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 May 2012 14:08, charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com wrote: why should one linear axis have a metric that is 2x or 1/2x any of the others, even on a lathe? Inserts are described by nose radius, not nose diameter, whereas milling cutters are described by diameter. Though, the pedant in my

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 May 2012 17:00, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: N to each X is.1 ohm X to X is .2 ohm That sounds like the tapping you needed. I would say earth it, put on rubber boots, rubber gloves and operate the machine with a long, dry stick :-) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 May 2012 17:22, Alex Hunt al...@ieee.org wrote: I have a Mesa 5i20 card … Sending serial port commands from LinuxCNC One of the Mesa card functions is a serial UART and I am currently working on HAL hooks for it. I should have something usable in the next few days. -- atp If you can't

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