[E-devel] new docbook style for the cookbooks

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Torri
Hey, in case some people do not read the forum, a guy wrote some docbook styles for the cookbooks. Follow that link: http://forum.enlightenment.org/comments.php?DiscussionID=277&page=1#Item_0 Vincent - This SF.Net email i

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Ah yes, the licensing issue. Is it something which has helped or hindered the "E" project? Who knows. There are several other factors besides that one which one could point to as well, it's possible those may even be intertwined with this one... Again, who really knows for certain. O

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are the reasons people prefer one type of license over another.. and > does that affect the number or quality of contributors or contributions? > Again, > who knows. I don't like licenses in the software world -

[E-devel] 2 things to make themeing easier.

2008-07-22 Thread Toma
1. "What the hell is that?" Ive written some of the widget locations for E17 to make themeing easier. I know when I started on Fireball I bugged a lot of people on IRC asking about these. Having all this knowledge for Cerium, I was able to move through the process a lot quicker and cut away the tim

[E-devel] Nightly build log for E17 on 2008-07-22 07:10:28 -0700

2008-07-22 Thread Nightly build system
Build log for Enlightenment DR 0.17 on 2008-07-22 07:10:28 -0700 Build logs are available at http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs Packages that failed to build: enna http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/enna.log epdf http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/epdf.log Packages

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Cedric wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What are the reasons people prefer one type of license over another.. >> and >> does that affect the number or quality of contributors or contributions? >> Again, >> who knows. I don't like

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Jorge wrote: > Hi all, > > I dont pretend to start a flamewar, if you do, please dont answer this > thread.The thing is that right now, the EFL has arrived to a place > where different companies are using this software, and several of us > are working on a company using the efl (raster, gustavo

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:49:40 -0400, "Christopher Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Maybe I am missing the point here, but aren't these themes already > available via get-e.org ? Also, the mpdule, taskbar, and efm nav module > are already available via cvsso what's the point of having Yet

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Dan Kronstal
This seems like a really nice addition to the site, and a little more cohesive than a separate site for themes and such, but as a general comment on the e.org site it seems that it might be better to have a unified account system. i have separate accounts for wiki.e.org, forum.e.org, and now exchan

Re: [E-devel] 2 things to make themeing easier.

2008-07-22 Thread Luca De Marini
Hi Toma, I'm following your adventures in theming and you are achieving great results. The second èart of this post leaves me astonished enough to go catch a plain and come visit you now :) Jokes apart, are you telling me you are almost able of transforming automatically any gnome icon theme into a

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 22 July 2008, at 08:33:13 (-0400), Jose Gonzalez wrote: > Personally, I'd *never* contribute anything that I'd consider to be > a truly serious, dedicated, body of time and work to a project that > wan't LGPL or GPL. But that's just me. Fortunately most are more open-minded than that

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Gustavo wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I dont pretend to start a flamewar, if you do, please dont answer this >> thread.The thing is that right now, the EFL has arrived to a place >> where different companies a

[E-devel] [enthrall] add lossless encoding

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Torri
Hey, I always found that theora is not a very good codec (old technology based on a On2's codec named VP3). I wanted to add a lossless encoding so that the resulting video can be then compressed with the codec you want, with the options you want (mencoder, avidemux, transcode, etc... can do

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Sthithaprajna Garapaty
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Dan Kronstal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This seems like a really nice addition to the site, and a little more > cohesive than a separate site for themes and such, but as a general comment > on the e.org site it seems that it might be better to have a unified accou

Re: [E-devel] [enthrall] add lossless encoding

2008-07-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/7/22 Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hey, > > I always found that theora is not a very good codec (old technology based > on a On2's codec named VP3). I wanted to add a lossless encoding so that the > resulting video can be then compressed with the codec you want, with the > options yo

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Michael Jennings wrote: > On Tuesday, 22 July 2008, at 08:33:13 (-0400), > Jose Gonzalez wrote: > > >> Personally, I'd *never* contribute anything that I'd consider to be >> a truly serious, dedicated, body of time and work to a project that >> wan't LGPL or GPL. But that's just me. >> > >

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 22 July 2008, at 13:20:07 (-0400), Jose Gonzalez wrote: > I'm not sure that the 'majority of the work' was done by people who > *like* that license, not for every sub-project.. or even if partly > so, whether that will continue to be the case -- or more to the > point, whether any real

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Michael Jennings wrote: > On Tuesday, 22 July 2008, at 13:20:07 (-0400), > Jose Gonzalez wrote: > > >> I'm not sure that the 'majority of the work' was done by people who >> *like* that license, not for every sub-project.. or even if partly >> so, whether that will continue to be the case -- or

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 22 July 2008, at 13:30:42 (-0400), Jose Gonzalez wrote: > This issue is a long and complex one, and I really have no desire to > get into the specifics of it. Then stop replying! :P > You and Nathan and Carsten and maybe many others, may feel > comfortable with your decisions and cho

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Dave Andreoli
- "Sthithaprajna Garapaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Dan Kronstal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > This seems like a really nice addition to the site, and a little > more > > cohesive than a separate site for themes and such, but as a general > comment

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Michael wrote: > >> Often, I saw some people react with hostility to any attempt to even >> bring up the issue, and basically deliver a wide-ranging ultimatum >> that no code was ever going to be accepted into E's cvs unless it >> was under a BSD/MIT license -- consider Michael Jenning's recent

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 22 July 2008, at 13:30:42 (-0400), > Jose Gonzalez wrote: > > >> This issue is a long and complex one, and I really have no desire to >> get into the specifics of it. >> > > Then stop replying! :P > You asked.

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Dave Andreoli
- "Ethan Grammatikidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:02 +0200 (CEST), "Dave Andreoli" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > - "Sthithaprajna Garapaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Dan Kronstal > <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Sthithaprajna Garapaty
The biggest problem with OpenID is that its not very good for desktop apps. (it requires a browser and too many steps to allow apps to authenticate) So, any apps that would use the exchange API would suffer.. There is a public authentication system from google that's similar to openID but friendli

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Sevcsik András
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The biggest problem with OpenID is that its not very good for desktop > apps. (it requires a browser and too many steps to allow apps to > authenticate) > So, any apps that would use the exchange API would suffe

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Sthithaprajna Garapaty
Exchange <- read the name! ;) Its not a one-way street You should be able to both download and upload. Its all about sharing. Plus, how are you going to rate things and add comments if you cannot authenticate? If you need to open a browser everytime, no one's gonna do it and that'll kill the commun

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This issue is a long and complex one, and I really have no desire to > get into the specifics of it. You and Nathan and Carsten and maybe many > others, > may feel comfortable with your decisions and choices, and t

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Pomageot
Hi all, I'm not sure if it could be a better choice than OpenID, but OAuthseems worth look at.. Thanks to Morlenxus for the great get-e (and easy_e17.sh!!) and to the new team from Exchange ! Let's connect E to the web ! 2008/7/22 Sthithaprajna Garapaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Nathan wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This issue is a long and complex one, and I really have no desire to >> get into the specifics of it. You and Nathan and Carsten and maybe many >> others, >> may feel comfortable with your d

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 22 July 2008, at 19:32:21 (-0400), Jose Gonzalez wrote: > In any case Nathan, as I've stated before, if you feel comfortable > with such licenses, then good for you. I just don't share that view. We get it. You've said it half a dozen times already...and virtually nothing else. This

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Dave Andreoli
Another 2 words in favor of openid that I have read now on the site: openid is a distributed system, that means that you can be (with a simple php script) a 'provider'. In this way your privacy is preserved. Dave - "Vincent Pomageot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > Hi all, > > I'm not s

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 22 July 2008, at 19:32:21 (-0400), > Jose Gonzalez wrote: > > >> In any case Nathan, as I've stated before, if you feel comfortable >> with such licenses, then good for you. I just don't share that view. >> > > We get it. You've said it half a dozen times a

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well, I wasn't going to feed the trolls, but since you called me out... >> > > I'm not sure just what "feed the trolls" means, but if it's another > way to call people names in order to silence or undermine a differe

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:02 +0200 (CEST), "Dave Andreoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > - "Sthithaprajna Garapaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Dan Kronstal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > This seems like a really nice addition to the site, and

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Paul Stejskal
Dave Andreoli wrote: >> How trustworthy is openid? I see they are linked to AOL and Yahoo, >> who >> might not be as well-known for data collection as Google, but I would >> be >> greatly surprised if those services don't collect user data. I also >> wouldn't believe what I hear. Much the same goes

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:06:16 +0200 (CEST), "Dave Andreoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > - "Ethan Grammatikidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:02 +0200 (CEST), "Dave Andreoli" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > > - "Sthithaprajna Garapaty" <[EMAIL

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread Dan Kronstal
I don't know if I'm missing the point here, but it sounds like OpenID is redundant. What we've got here is three subdomains with three logins/accounts when they could all be using one instead. bugtracker/trac are their own sites with their own thing going on and that's fine, unless you want fancy i

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-22 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:10:49 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> Well, I wasn't going to feed the trolls, but since you called me > >> out... > >> > > > > I'm not sure just what "feed the tro

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread dan sinclair
On 22-Jul-08, at 3:58 PM, Dan Kronstal wrote: > I don't know if I'm missing the point here, but it sounds like > OpenID is > redundant. What we've got here is three subdomains with three > logins/accounts when they could all be using one instead. bugtracker/ > trac > are their own sites with t