On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 02:36:31 +0200
Jérémy Zurcher wrote:
>
> you are poisonous ...
> you heaten up every thread,
> I would ban you out of the www if I had the power to.
Wow! That says quite allot!!!
Good thing people like you haven't such power...
> my very personal thought.
>
> all of the ab
On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 01:51:54 +0200
Jérémy Zurcher wrote:
> > You all have likely never met someone like me or interacted with
> > them. I tend to respond as I am treated, golden rule. I most always
> > start with
>
> eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, come on ...
> that is not the place for suc
On Thursday 31 May 2018 18:26, Michael Jennings wrote :
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:16 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> wrote:
>
> > I will deviate with all others and to me this is good news!!! I have had
> > few if any interactions with Cedric. One of my first and maybe only was
> > nothing but in
On Thursday 31 May 2018 12:20, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote :
> On Thu, 31 May 2018 12:42:09 -0300
> Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote:
>
> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:37 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> > wrote:
> > > On Thu, 31 May 2018 11:35:26 -0300
> > > Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote:
> > >
> >
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:16 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> I will deviate with all others and to me this is good news!!! I have had
> few if any interactions with Cedric. One of my first and maybe only was
> nothing but insults from him... Which he jumped in out of no where...
>
> https://p
On Thursday 31 May 2018 14:55, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote :
> On Thu, 31 May 2018 18:42:07 +0100
> Andrew Williams wrote:
>
> > This is absolutely unacceptable William. We have community guidelines.
>
> We have difference of opinions on acceptable. Going back to our 1 hour
> discussion on my
On Thursday 31 May 2018 21:35, Vincent Torri wrote :
> I am very sad about how behaviors are these days.
>
> But i would like to recall that, whatever you think about raster,
> whatever has been said behind the scene, he is the one who started
> everything, the EFL and E.
>
> Vincent
You worded
On Thursday 31 May 2018 11:44, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote :
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 00:21:43 +0900
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 31 May 2018 10:16:34 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr."
> > said:
> >
> > dude... no need for that. :( cedric has done lots of good work.
>
>
Hi,
It makes me very sad to see how fast EFL work slips to the blame game when
there is a problem. If the process is not working then focus on that not
the person please. This was the result of a large amount of work that was
required for the next release - if folk worked together to deliver these
I don't think anyone thinks that.
Maybe we're looking at the "bigger" picture too much (the big goal),
This whole interfaces work has been a long slog for most people
involved. I think overall things are improving.
It seems simple advice, just have to keep going.
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:55 PM,
If the take away anyone gets from this is that everyone hates raster or
raster should quit, then you are missing the point.
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:48 PM Vincent Torri
wrote:
> I am very sad about how behaviors are these days.
>
> But i would like to recall that, whatever you think about raste
On Thu, 31 May 2018 18:42:07 +0100
Andrew Williams wrote:
> This is absolutely unacceptable William. We have community guidelines.
We have difference of opinions on acceptable. Going back to our 1 hour
discussion on my use of the word ditch I can provide the IRC log.
I mentioned in a E pr
I am very sad about how behaviors are these days.
But i would like to recall that, whatever you think about raster,
whatever has been said behind the scene, he is the one who started
everything, the EFL and E.
Vincent
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:01 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> Carsten,
>
>
Just some points to make.
- I am not the reason behind recent developers stepping back from the
project.
- I am not the reason behind Bohdi/Moshka or that fork in the
community. Which I believe some rifts still exists I tried to
understand...
- EFL/E has been around a long time, and
Take care Cedric, and thank you for your patience and guidance. Enjoy
the break you certainly deserve it.
Bryce
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:31:03PM -0400, Cedric Bail wrote:
> Hello,
>
> It has been quite exhausting over the past months to deal with the major
> change and
> discussion necessary
Hi Cedric,
I really hope you enjoy your well earned break and that we see you again
when you are rested. Your contribution has been enormous and I have very
much enjoyed working with you.
All the best for the next adventure!
Andrew
On Wed, 30 May 2018 at 04:32, Cedric Bail wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
This is absolutely unacceptable William. We have community guidelines.
https://www.enlightenment.org/contact
Note “Please treat everyone with kindness and respect.”
Your behaviour is clearly in violation of the community that the team are
trying to defend and I hope that someone who can do so will
On Thu, 31 May 2018 12:42:09 -0300
Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:37 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 31 May 2018 11:35:26 -0300
> > Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote:
> >
> > I am not here to be liked
>
> Then you're doing a good job.
Felipe,
Do
Carsten,
On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 00:24:24 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> i'm ->||<- that close to quitting this e/efl myself.
Never do that
> what i have seen over the past few months is "bugger off raster - we
> don't want you". i'm sorely tempted to make you happy. it'll mak
On Thu, 31 May 2018 18:53:22 +0300 Daniel Zaoui said:
> Cedric, I hate you!!! Because of you leaving, I have a lot of spams of boring
> people thinking that they, with their opinion, are important in the world.
>
> So you have two choices: you never come back or you never leave again!!!
>
> Any
Cedric, I hate you!!! Because of you leaving, I have a lot of spams of boring
people thinking that they, with their opinion, are important in the world.
So you have two choices: you never come back or you never leave again!!!
Anyway, I already miss your 121 buggy patches, and yes, Carsten will m
On Thu, 31 May 2018 23:49:27 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2018 09:37:01 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr."
> said:
>
> > On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:00:45 +1000
> > Daniel Kasak wrote:
> >
> > > - Windows will very regularly turn opaque and stop being rendered.
> > > R
On Thu, 31 May 2018 23:32:00 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>
> maybe in the future i'll have time for this, but not in the
> foreseeable future. just saying that in the audio stack there are
> higher priority items IMHO.
No worries, it does not effect me. Just one person I am awar
On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 00:21:43 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2018 10:16:34 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr."
> said:
>
> dude... no need for that. :( cedric has done lots of good work.
I never commented on his work, or said anything to that effect
> i think a fair
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:37 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2018 11:35:26 -0300
> Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:16 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
>> wrote:
>> > I will deviate with all others and to me this is good news!!!
>>
>> You're really mak
On Thu, 31 May 2018 11:35:26 -0300
Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:16 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> wrote:
> > I will deviate with all others and to me this is good news!!!
>
> You're really making it hard for people to like you with this
> attitude.
I am not here
On Thu, 31 May 2018 09:51:36 -0500
Stephen Houston wrote:
> I can't even comprehend the thought process of someone to be able to
> write this mail. You are using and enjoying the fruits of Cedric's
> labor with the code you write and the use of E and EFL --
Am I enjoying it? More like regrettin
On Thu, 31 May 2018 09:01:10 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz
said:
> I've been struggling to find enough keyboard time to handle everything this
> week, but this thread (and related discussions) have made me quite
> discouraged in the meanwhile. There is far more time being spent using git
> blame, and t
On Thu, 31 May 2018 09:37:01 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr."
said:
> On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:00:45 +1000
> Daniel Kasak wrote:
>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I'd been holding off rebuilding from current git, given the
> > discussion I've seen here. But then curiosity got the better of me :)
> > My findin
On Thu, 31 May 2018 10:16:34 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr."
said:
dude... no need for that. :( cedric has done lots of good work. i think a fair
few people have had their tussles with you. in fact of late i even commented to
some people that you seem quite nice lately... :)
> I will deviate with
On Thu, 31 May 2018 08:54:00 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr."
said:
> On Thu, 31 May 2018 12:48:38 +0900
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 30 May 2018 12:42:08 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr."
> > said:
> >
> > > I am not sure if EFL allows for usage with just alsa and witho
I can't even comprehend the thought process of someone to be able to write
this mail. You are using and enjoying the fruits of Cedric's labor with
the code you write and the use of E and EFL -- There is no other way to put
it. Cedric's stamp on this project is massive and it wouldn't be what it
i
On 18-05-29 23:31, Cedric Bail wrote:
> Hello,
>
> It has been quite exhausting over the past months to deal with the major
> change and
> discussion necessary to be done for enabling a stable interfaces for
> bindings. I will thanks
> everyone that helped get things done. Still, I am clearly bu
Obviously I think a lot of people agree with Mike's sentiments here. The
community has been on a down turn for a while with excellent core
developers leaving or becoming apathetic because of the lack of structure
within the project which has led to quality issues, timeliness issues, and
even inter
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:16 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> I will deviate with all others and to me this is good news!!!
You're really making it hard for people to like you with this attitude.
[snip]
> --
> William L. Thomson Jr.
Regards,
--
Felipe Magno de Almeida
---
I will deviate with all others and to me this is good news!!! I have had
few if any interactions with Cedric. One of my first and maybe only was
nothing but insults from him... Which he jumped in out of no where...
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6221#102021
His comments were uncalled for, insult
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:31 AM, Cedric Bail wrote:
> Hello,
>
> It has been quite exhausting over the past months to deal with the major
> change and
> discussion necessary to be done for enabling a stable interfaces for
> bindings. I will thanks
> everyone that helped get things done. Still,
+1. You are awesome Cedric. I hope you have an enjoyable time away and
look forward to working with you in the future.
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:27 AM Mike Blumenkrantz <
michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cedric, it's been a pleasure working with you for all these years. You've
> been a d
On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:00:45 +1000
Daniel Kasak wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I'd been holding off rebuilding from current git, given the
> discussion I've seen here. But then curiosity got the better of me :)
> My findings ...
>
> - Windows will very regularly turn opaque and stop being rendered.
> Res
I've been struggling to find enough keyboard time to handle everything this
week, but this thread (and related discussions) have made me quite
discouraged in the meanwhile. There is far more time being spent using git
blame, and trying to blame people when problems arise in general, than
there is a
On Thu, 31 May 2018 12:48:38 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2018 12:42:08 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr."
> said:
>
> > I am not sure if EFL allows for usage with just alsa and without
> > pulse audio. That seems to be the source of this issue. If someone
> > coul
HAHAHA!!! You killed me bro! So serious :D !
On Thu, 31 May 2018 07:27:02 -0400
Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
> Cedric, it's been a pleasure working with you for all these years.
> You've been a dependable colleague across many different projects,
> and I've learned a lot from you. Thanks again for s
Cedric, it's been a pleasure working with you for all these years. You've
been a dependable colleague across many different projects, and I've
learned a lot from you. Thanks again for spending some of your free time
earlier this week reviewing patches despite leaving the company; this
obviously was
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