Re: [EVDL] need new home ESVE

2023-06-21 Thread EV@TucsonEV via EV
I agree that it is nowhere in the manual, but none the less the title of the pdf refers to it as the Gen2_UMC_Manual. Weather it is legacy or not is a mute point, Tesla identifies it as Gen2 UMC. Best regards, Rush Dougherty TucsonEV www.TucsonEV.com

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread Matt Lacey via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread EV@TucsonEV via EV
The J1772 SAE Specifications state - 5.1 Electrical Ratings Table 9 - AC charging electrical ratings (North America) Charge Method Nominal Supply Voltage Max Current Branch Circuit Breaker (V) (Amps-continu

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 6/20/23 22:51, EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: AC Level 2 208 to 240 V AC, 1-phase? 80 A Per NEC 625 "240 volt" power really has an acceptable range of voltage from 228 volts to 252. (My home regularly sits at 245 volts). But yes, pulling from one leg of a 3 phase at

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
If there isn't one now, there will be soon.  Ford has said that their existing vehicles will be able to use the Tesla stations with an adapter. On 6/21/2023 1:22 AM, Matt Lacey via EV wrote: That adapter is the wrong direction (incidentally the only direction that will work) going from CCS2 c

Re: [EVDL] White House welcomes Tesla to take advantage of federal dollars for chargers

2023-06-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jay Summet wrote: So I would expect the SAE and other national standards groups to have more influence than any single company, as they typically represent a broad swath of the industry. Marco Gaxiola wrote: The interesting part here is that 'the broad swath of the industry' now, in the US and

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] White House welcomes Tesla to take advantage of federal dollars for chargers

2023-06-21 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 21 Jun 2023 at 10:37, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > There won't be a "true" standard until someone gains monopoly control > and drives out everyone else. GM tried that with Magne Charge inductive 30 years ago. Tesla seems to be angling for it now, at least in the US. > there is no enforcement m

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
So, you are saying that it's technically impossible to build a CCS adapter that can translate the CCS standard communications to whatever the current Tesla super chargers have.  i.e. Ford Lied about it. it is physically impossible, even if you have the Ford app that will work with Tesla supercha

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
#x27;s whips are not able to reach almost any other EV > > without it blocking multiple parking spots. > > > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
ca. In addition, the location >> > and length of Tesla's whips are not able to reach almost any other EV >> > without it blocking multiple parking spots. >> > >> ___ >> Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >>

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
cation between the EV and EVSE >> > shall be power line communication over the control pilot line as >> > depicted in DIN 70121.", which is NOT supported by current V1, V2, and >> > V3 superchargers all over North America. In addition, the location >> > and length of Tesla's whips

[EVDL] Magic Dock

2023-06-21 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 21 Jun 2023 at 11:37, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > The car can also log data from the supercharger and cache it for later > upload when the car gets back into cell range. This is what I find unsettling about Teslas. Actually all cars do something similar now but it could be said that Tesla was a

Re: [EVDL] Hyper 9 low-end performance problem

2023-06-21 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
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Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] Magic Dock

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
-- Brian Eno on Cryptocurrency and NFTs > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230621/65b4cb8b/attachment.htm> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
So, Ford, with the Tesla API, can have their newer vehicles control the Tesla charger. AND if the existing Ford vehicle has some smarts, and a "smart" adapter, it could also control the Tesla charger. Again, I'm talking a major car manufacturer, with a API agreement with Tesla, making the adapte

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
the supercharger and cache it for later > > upload when the car gets back into cell range. > > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230621/5486b4ca/attachment.htm> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread Ron via EV
Just spitballing here... What about VIN equivalents in the adapter itself or manufacturers building their charge ports and in-vehicle networking to Tesla specs? All of this stuff is well over my head, but having written Palm Pilot programs that interface with mainframe systems, it strikes me th

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
t; >> > > >> > https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/HXVNIC_North_American_Charging_Standard_Technical_Specification_TS-0023666_HFTPKZ.pdf?xseo=&response-content-disposition=inline%3Bfilename%3D%22North-American-Charging-Standard-Technical-Specification-TS-002

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 6/21/23 15:40, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: I agree about the invasive logging, which is why I offer the service to disconnect a Tesla from Tesla's back end. This can be done in degrees, so no communication, only needed communication, or just no logging/telemetry (software updates still possibl

Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] Magic Dock

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
arger protocol in > > any of these released documents because they absolutely will not > > support 3rd party use of it. > > > > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL:

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 21 Jun 2023 at 14:41, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > the experience at a Tesla supercharger with Magic dock ... "Most are $0.49/kWh ... Idle fees, which are charged if the car is left alone at the charger after being fully charged, are $1.00/minute." The Kia EV6, tested in the article, is similar

[EVDL] Tires

2023-06-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
A recent comment reminded me: I need new tires for my Lectric Leopard (Renault LeCar) EV. Stock size is 145/80R13, but 155/80R13 also fit. The rims are 4.5" wide, so a wide profile tire isn't a good fit. I'm finding it difficult to find any 13" tires, let alone low rolling resistance ones. Yet

Re: [EVDL] Tires

2023-06-21 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 21 Jun 2023 at 18:05, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > I'm finding it difficult to find any 13" tires You might try here: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/sizes/results.jsp?diameter=13 I see Vredestein 145/13s and Kumho 155/13s. No clue about their rolling resistance. Don't bother with the homepage

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 6/21/23 18:50, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: At 28mpg (Kia Sportage ICEV), fuel cost per mile = $0.128 At 43mpg (Kia Sportage Hybrid), fuel cost per mile = $0.083 At 29kWh / 100mi (Kia EV6), electricity cost per mile = $0.142 Ignoring the hybrid fuel cost red hearing (as the hybrid wo

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 21 Jun 2023 at 21:11, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > Ignoring the hybrid fuel cost red hearing (as the hybrid won't get > 43mgh on the freeway, Sportage Hybrid: EPA rating: 42 city, 44 highway, 43 combined. I used the EPA ratings for the EV6, too. I don't see or smell any herrings here, e

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
them to do, because > I notice that it always coincides with their own desires. > > -- Susan B Anthony > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _