RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-23 Thread Greg Deckler
Man, I can't EVEN believe that I allowed myself to get sucked back into this infernal list again. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone. And the New Year thing. _ List posting FAQ:

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Yes, you are correct Ed. I cannot prove the obvious. I cannot prove that an apple is red or that the sky is blue or that you live on the planet

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
So you are going to quibble with things that I said? You people are so whacked out that it is utterly incomprehensible. So where were you when I was called a liar or a wife beater or stupid or idiot or that I starve children. All of that is OK in your whacky bizarro world, but explaining to

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
chose not to discuss those points because you couldn't keep your I have my Ethics argument and all this would be moot? Speaking of MOOT, can anyone tell me what top 10 classic rock single contains the word MOOT? Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
I am so very, very touched by your concern. Never fear, I keep such activities as this list well separated from hours billed to clients. Greg, I hope that you are not typing these long marathon e-mail responses on your clients' time. That could be an ethical dilemma. Eric Fretz L-3

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
don't like it when someone calls you a stupid fool for not doing your homework before you got here. Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:24 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit reading.=20

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
opinion :-) Best Regards,=20 Dan Bartley -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Well, you're missing the big picture and the whole point, but yes, if you paid Microsoft

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
? This particular topic was started by *you* on 12/18. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics =20 =20 I HAVE tried to let

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
-brilliant treatises. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:51 AM To: Exchange

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics How am I changing position? I have always stated that the problem with MVP is that it is a gift. If you paid

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
Too easy: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:52:58 -0800 For those of you who haven't been around, Mr. Greg Deckler has repeatedly broadcast his diatribes that those of us who are MVPs should be likened to employees (his word) of Microsoft and anything we tell you should be considered to be propaganda straight

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
to him for MS products! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 1:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics You can be offended all you want, it does

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
The point is that it would no longer be a gift if you paid for it. Yes, it is ethical to pay for an MCSE certificate. There are clear rules defined for what you must achieve and the amount that you must pay. Everyone knows what those rules are. The MVP is a subjective gift and accepting it is a

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
Not sure where you are from, but yes, every occupation that impacts the welfare of the public has local, state and federal legislation. Here is one example for starters: http://onlinedocs.andersonpublishing.com/oh/lpExt.dll?f=templatesfn=main-h.htmcp=PORC Greg wrote: What I said was, today

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
as an MVP. Care to prove this assertion as well? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
posted varies substantially from your subsequent diatribes. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
it from any other motivation than the desire to serve. The fact that these jackets *were* allowed would tend to weaken rather than strengthen your argument against MVPs. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 December 2003 18:22 To: Exchange

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics OK, I can be childish as well. You

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
The second scenario still presents the potential for a conflict of interest. If you are accepting gifts from vendors then you may not be forthcoming with all information about problems or issues with the system that might cause the client to choose NOT to migrate, hold off on migration, etc. Still

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
If truth be told, I actually LOVE to starve children. It is one of my guilty little pleasures. Some day I hope to have my own children to starve. My wife's cool with it, she likes to starve children as well. Greg, you wrote: First, I never said I was a master logician. This is simply another

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 December 2003 18:58 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics The second scenario still presents the potential for a conflict of interest. If you are accepting gifts from vendors then you may

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-22 Thread Greg Deckler
Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics And what was before that? Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:36:07 -0800 - NINE HOURS PRIOR TO YOUR EVIDENCE From you: Ed, Your lack of professionalism

RE: TONS of NDR's

2003-12-19 Thread Greg Deckler
I just have to say...the Underpants Gnomes reference is strong. Nice. It also works in reverse: 1) spammer sends messages to users in your org from [EMAIL PROTECTED], which doesn't exist. 2) many many many recipients in your domain do not exist. 3) Your mail system spends the next three

Migrating LN6 to Exchange 2003

2003-12-19 Thread Greg Deckler
I almost cringe as I write this post... Does anyone have any experience or knowledge in migrating a LN6 environment to Exchange 2003 using the Exchange Migration Wizard? If so, are there any tips or information that you could provide either to say, This is how I got it to work or I tried it and

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-19 Thread Greg Deckler
to Exchange 2000. Then, you posted this next little gem, and I quote: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:52:58 -0800 For those of you who haven't been around, Mr. Greg Deckler has repeatedly broadcast his diatribes that those of us who are MVPs should be likened to employees (his word) of Microsoft and anything we tell

Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Deckler
OK, for some reason beyond my comprehension people seem to have this odd fascination with my views on ethics in IT. They are so fascinated that every time I post something to this list, they bring it up. In the interests of trying to move past this, you can get your fix of my crazed views on

RE: Open Relay/Spamcop

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Deckler
computers which successfully authenticate to relay, regardless of the list above. and that stopped it ... Mike -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Open Relay/Spamcop

RE: Open Relay/Spamcop

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Deckler
to relay with those settings.=20 Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:37 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Open Relay/Spamcop

RE: Open Relay/Spamcop

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Deckler
run under the user ID backup? Dictionary password attack. Spammers have lots of patience. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Open Relay

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Deckler
] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics OK, for some reason beyond my comprehension people seem to have this odd fascination with my views on ethics in IT. They are so fascinated that every

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Deckler
is suffering from a real or perceived conflict of interest. Maybe they were just having a snack craving! That's the problem with your never ending mantra about gifts and your issue about weather or not this is a conflict of interest. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Deckler
You sir, are absolutely, 100% correct. Why others cannot understand this basic point is well beyond my ability to comprehend but I'm glad someone out there gets it. Boy, I hate to jump in, but perhaps I can end this... Greg, in the absolute, you are correct. Accepting *anything* of *any*

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Deckler
Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I never asked you

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Deckler
Yes, you are correct Ed. I cannot prove the obvious. I cannot prove that an apple is red or that the sky is blue or that you live on the planet that orbits a sun. If you are not willing to accept the obvious, then I will never be able to prove anything to you. Likewise, and more importantly

RE: Open Relay/Spamcop

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Deckler
And... Rest assured that this topic has been discussed by us vendor whores. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg

Re: Automating email via Exchange

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
You could probably do it in an Outlook form or whatever the current Outlook development flavor is from Microsoft. It changes too often to really keep track. You could also do it with API calls to AD and CDO. However, the easiest way may be to just export your users to a CSV file or an Access

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
in High School didn't you... You should have asked them (while being beaten to a pulp) to leave you some brain cells to operate with... -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
will be unethical in nature... -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Personal attacks are generally the clearest sign that someone has lost an argument

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
of them. I'm just interested in how you came to these conclusions, actual facts to backup your statements, and anyone else who follows your beliefs if that is what you want to call them... NEXT! -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
I never asked you to modify your behavior. Do what you want. It is a GOOD thing for me that people do not have my particular views on ethics. I have won clients and I keep clients, in part, based on my ethics. My clients know that come heck or high water, I am going to be fanactically loyal to my

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
Ed, honestly, WTF does this have to do with ANYTHING? My list of credentials is longer than yours?? I mean, sure, what the heck. I will state this in the hopes that we can all move past this. Everyone, everyone, listen up, here it is: Ed Crowley has a longer list of credentials than I do. In

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
Alright, this is a good question. Bottom line is that if, as the hiring body, you don't care then ethics are irrelevant in your decision and you do what you want. Ethics do not have to be the end all, be all of decision making. And, it is also absolutely not the case that MVP's will always

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
get those of us who are not MVP's nominated for such things and it would be unethical of us to assist you. So, please stop asking for help as the answers we provide will be unethical in nature... -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
, and your ability to work with others... Severely lacking... -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Yes, really. Laws are designed to define

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
Yes, we pay Microsoft to be a partner and get freebies. As a Microsoft Partner, does your company get any freebies? -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
You still haven't demonstrated that the Conflict of Interest exists. =20 When you work in an industry and accept gifts from vendors in that industry, that is a conflict of interest. Where's the conflict in me (an MS-leaning IT manager) hiring a MS-knowledgeable person to implement MS-based

RE: Automating email via Exchange

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
You're welcome. That worked like a charm. Thanks a lot for the tip. Damian Scoles Senior Technical Analyst MCSE, CCNP, CNA, A+ -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
I have no interest in winning. Can this thread please go away...You're not going to win Greg... _ John Bowles Exchange Engineer OIG/HHS [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 _ List posting FAQ:

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
, December 17, 2003 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 =20 =20 As a Microsoft Partner, does your company get any freebies? =20 =20 =20 -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:18

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
People mis-characterize and read things into my posts that are not there. This one I have to do in-line. First of all, I've seen plenty of statements by people who accurately depict reasons that your opinion is bunk. You've either not read or not comprehended them. No one in 8 years has

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
Then tell people to quit bringing it up. Then quit beating this dead horse -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-16 Thread Greg Deckler
Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-15 Thread Greg Deckler
on this subject. It's that you are every bit as wrong on this topic as you think I am. Let's move on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Day 2

Day 3: Lessons Learned GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-15 Thread Greg Deckler
Day 3 was pretty much finishing up some details with nothing much new and exciting to report. Was able to bring up the GW 6.5 client connected to both GW and Exchange and this allows one to drag and drop contacts but not PDL's. Also tried with the GW 5.2.6 client with similar results. Created a

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-15 Thread Greg Deckler
In my opinion, there are those with the opinion that stating anything as a fact and not an opinion is abrasive and rude. In my opinion, this opinion is absurd because it is fundamentally understood that anything that comes out of anyone's mouth is simply an opinion and not a fact. In my opinion,

RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Well, if you're big enough to look past my views on MVP, I think I can let it slide. Many thanks for your response. And, BTW, $1200 is 25% of the budget for this project, that's a big chunk of change. P.S. And because I have been heckled to death on this issue, I feel the need to clarify because

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Now THAT's funny. I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Shut the fu*k up already,

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
While I am not sure that the Greg in this post was directed at me or whether this is some new form of abuse and sarcasm, it is pretty much irrelevant as I do have some things to say on this issue. The biggest problem that I have had with Exchange on the outside of the SMTP mail chain is anti-spam

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
-Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail While I am not sure that the Greg in this post was directed at me or whether this is some new

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
rather use OWA. That thing will sure work great from any client = anywhere in the world. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov. Exchange MVP Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
***inbound*** mail from an anonymous source because that's what it is supposed to do, being an RFC compliant SMTP server et all. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov, Exchange MVP Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Of course, everything I say is my opinion. That's how it works. _ List posting

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
prefer if you found it within yourself to get over it, move on and be civil. I have. I just have one question about this. If you've moved on, then why did you feel the need to respond? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
I do not believe that I have ever bashed anyone. I have expressed my opinion. Honorary titles and gifts are a conflict of interest and hence not something that professional IT people should engage in, period. You can justify it all you want to yourself but it does not change the fact that it is a

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Facts are facts. Ok Mr. I help build this community, _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
I do not hold you or anyone in contempt. I believe that your actions are wrong and hurt IT professionalism as a whole. My beliefs may be on the fringe, but that does not make them any less correct. I have never tried to offend, only to educate. I cannot help if people get offended, but it does

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Here's a perfect example of people picking fights just to pick fights. Let me break

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I do not believe that I have ever bashed anyone. I

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Sure thing guy, the response did not follow the discussion thread. Did ya hear that sound? It was a whoosh right over your head... -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
I did not say what you say I said. What I said was that, in my opinion, accepting honorary titles from vendors is a conflict of interest and something that should be avoided by those who are, or; technically, consider themselves, professional IT people. That is my opinion. And this is not just my

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
have had the need to fell like you had respond. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Here's a perfect example

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Honestly, didn't occur to me, but then you could ask similar questions about a lot of the messages that flow through this list. Then why do it on the list? Why not e-mail Ed directly? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler

GBMT and GW 6.5 PO

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
OK, I have thus far been unsuccessful in getting GBMT to work against a 6.5 PO. I've pretty much given up hope that this is going to work, which is not necessarily a huge problem since there are only 700 mailboxes to migrate. I have tested this with both the 5.2.6 GW client and the 6.5 GW client

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Well, yes, I would expect that to be the extent of your research. degree title check out other professions and their views on accepting honorary titles. googling Dr. receives honorary degree lawyer receives honorary degree Just for reference. -Original Message- From: Greg

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
.html For those with any interest. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I did not say what you say I said. What I said was that, in my

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
I didn't ask for thanks. I was simply pointing out that I have been here from the beginning and have posted a lot of useful information and as such deserve at least the illusion of civility. GD wrote: Honorary titles and gifts are a conflict of interest and hence not something that

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Well, yes, I would expect that to be the extent of your research. degree title check out other professions and their views

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
doctorate in Computer Engineering, due to some mythical contributions I have made to the industry. My signature would now read: DR. James Blunt, Computer Engineer -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:22 AM To: Exchange

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Seriously? Sorry about that, send me a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your address again and I'll get one out to you. If you sent it previously, I should have it, but I'll have to make sure. Again, sorry about that, I thought that everyone that had requested a copy had already received it.

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
See posting to Michael Hutchins. I never received mine either. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 By

Re: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
a vendor whore Koslosky - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:06 PM Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Sorry, I should have been more clear. I will restate this for seemingly

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Sure thing. You said: I posted a question to a community that is supposedly there to help one and all... I said: The title of this discussion list is Exchange Discussions, not Exchange Help Line. Right over your head. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
repeatedly been shot down based upon their superficiality. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
I do not hold you or anyone else in contempt. I disagree with your behavior. Common implies that you are civil. As long as you continue to hold me and my colleagues in contempt, you are not being civil. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Well, our recollections are different. My recollection is that the MVP's swore up and down that they did not get compensated. I may have missed something

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Of course, everything I say is my opinion. That's how it works. You mean to say that in your opinion you are right. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
4-5 years. Ha! That puts you at around 1999-1998. This list has been around since 1994. This is a philosophical issue about ethics that has been raging for about 8 years or so. I specifically try to avoid the subject, but certain individuals can't seem to let it go. Guilty conscious maybe? Who

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Yes, you certainly schooled me. You are so very witty and clever I could never hope to compete with such a superior intellect. An AOL reference? Paaaleeeze. I get along with my coworkers just fine, thanks for your concern. Value is irrelevant, hence the point about a philosophical discussion.

Re: OT: WAS Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
) 308.398.7361(F) 308.398.7399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I apologize

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